Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS)

[Salus Maior]

Looks like Palmyra is going to get wrecked by ISIS.....

I really fucking hope not.

They're less than 2 kilometers away, and Syrian authorities said that they can't protect the ruins.

[Sebastianbourg]

If I had the money I'd hire mercenaries to protect the place!

[Washington Resistance Army]

If I had the money I'd hire mercenaries to protect the place!

I'd gladly go fight to save the ruins, I place far more value on them than some stupid Jihadi's. I fucking hate how much history they've destroyed.

[New Skaaneland]

You really care that much?

[Washington Resistance Army]

You really care that much?

Yes.

[Salus Maior]

If I had the money I'd hire mercenaries to protect the place!

I'd gladly go fight to save the ruins, I place far more value on them than some stupid Jihadi's. I fucking hate how much history they've destroyed.

Same. Be dressed as Roman legionnaires while we're at it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd gladly go fight to save the ruins, I place far more value on them than some stupid Jihadi's. I fucking hate how much history they've destroyed.

Same. Be dressed as Roman legionnaires while we're at it.

We shall crush the barbarians!

[Salus Maior]

Same. Be dressed as Roman legionnaires while we're at it.

We shall crush the barbarians!

Fire pilum from the heavy mgs

[Errades]

If I had the money I'd hire mercenaries to protect the place!

I'd gladly go fight to save the ruins, I place far more value on them than some stupid Jihadi's. I fucking hate how much history they've destroyed.

Start a GoFundMe campaign.

[Salus Maior]

For those who don't know what Palmyra is, or can't be bothered to google it, this is what's at stake: http://www.geographylists.com/syria_pal ... itadel.jpg

[Purger]

Actually no, it's not. Is still technically a part of Cuba. And GITMO follows Military Law because they're dealing with (unlawful) combatants.

Speaking of Cuba, should it even be there if Cuba does not want it to be there? Technically speaking, the US is violating an independent nations sovereignty...

Well, no. The Cuban government loaned Gitmo to the US back for 99 years and government is sending money to the Cuban government but Castro is not accepting the money.

[Imperial City-States]

Not really a huge fan of ancient history but i am aware of how important it is. I'm fairly certain that ISIS has put themselves on everyone's shit list. Even those who'd normally support Terrorism against Western nations.

On a side note,

What do y'all think of that raid into Syria by U.S Green Berets?

[Salus Maior]

Not really a huge fan of ancient history but i am aware of how important it is. I'm fairly certain that ISIS has put themselves on everyone's shit list. Even those who'd normally support Terrorism against Western nations.

On a side note,

What do y'all think of that raid into Syria by U.S Green Berets?

Badass. As Green Berets tend to be.

[Seraven]

You really care that much?

And you don't care that much?

[West Aurelia]

More information on the raid:
- http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/world ... -says.html
- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ce=twitter
- http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... are_btn_tw

- Delta Force carried out the raid
- The operators engaged in hand-to-hand combat with IS fighters
- IS fighters used women and children as human shields, forcing the operators to "shoot around them"
- 12 IS fighters were killed (unsure if Sayyaf is counted as a fighter)
- The UH-60s and V-22s used in the raid were riddled with bullet holes by the end
- The Syrian government was not informed prior to the raid
- Sayyaf had been under surveillance for weeks using informants, drones, satellites, and electronic eavesdropping
- It is alleged that Sayyaf, being not well-known, was not the main target of the raid, and that the other targets had already left
- One of the other alleged targets is IS spokesman Abu Mohammed al-Adnani

I suspect this was actually a kill mission and they've changed the narrative, probably for PR reasons. Capture missions against guys like these are pretty unheard of.

But this guy was a real piece of work and deserved to get hit either way.

Capturing him would be more logical, since the US could then interrogate him and gain intelligence. If they wanted to kill him, they wouldn't have risked sending in troops and would have just used a drone. Although I suppose the use of a drone would be controversial following the deaths of Weinstein and Lo Porto.

On a side note,

What do y'all think of that raid into Syria by U.S Green Berets?

Delta Force carried it out.

[Salus Maior]

- The Syrian government was not informed prior to the raid

Does anyone really care?

[Miletos]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32772894

Daesh appear to have retreated/been pushed back from Palmyra, which is a relief. The destruction of Nimrud was bad enough; it would have been terrible to see another vital historical site turned to dust.

[Salus Maior]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32772894

Daesh appear to have retreated/been pushed back from Palmyra, which is a relief. The destruction of Nimrud was bad enough; it would have been terrible to see another vital historical site turned to dust.

Daesh? I thought it was ISIS? Or are they the same thing?

[Washington Resistance Army]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32772894

Daesh appear to have retreated/been pushed back from Palmyra, which is a relief. The destruction of Nimrud was bad enough; it would have been terrible to see another vital historical site turned to dust.

Daesh? I thought it was ISIS? Or are they the same thing?

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for ISIS, it's insulting to say the least so that's why most of us use it. Plus I don't want to call them a state, that's giving them far too much legitimacy.

[Salus Maior]

Daesh? I thought it was ISIS? Or are they the same thing?

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for ISIS, it's insulting to say the least so that's why most of us use it. Plus I don't want to call them a state, that's giving them far too much legitimacy.

Meh, I don't care either way. They're not going to have a very long life anyhow.

[Organized States]

I suspect this was actually a kill mission and they've changed the narrative, probably for PR reasons. Capture missions against guys like these are pretty unheard of.

But this guy was a real piece of work and deserved to get hit either way.

Capturing him would be more logical, since the US could then interrogate him and gain intelligence. If they wanted to kill him, they wouldn't have risked sending in troops and would have just used a drone. Although I suppose the use of a drone would be controversial following the deaths of Weinstein and Lo Porto.

Nah, this was a kill mission. What they wanted to do was confirm that he was dead. ISIS knows that we listen in on their conversations (hence why the dumb ones are dead). If JSOC and OGA wanted him alive, they would have done what we did in Libya (Spook him, wait for him to move, and then grab him in the Street).

[Imperial City-States]

On a side note,

What do y'all think of that raid into Syria by U.S Green Berets?

Delta Force carried it out.

Delta Force are still Special Forces (Green Berets) , they're just a sub-group and are considered 'the next level' in most cases. I guess the closest comparison is Russian Spetznaz and then Russian Spetznaz Alfa group.

[West Aurelia]

IS captures Ramadi after Iraqi forces abandon their posts. Mosul 2.0.

Delta Force carried it out.

Delta Force are still Special Forces (Green Berets) , they're just a sub-group and are considered 'the next level' in most cases. I guess the closest comparison is Russian Spetznaz and then Russian Spetznaz Alfa group.

One isn't subordinate to the other - the Green Berets are part of USASOC and Delta Force is part of JSOC. "Spetsnaz" just means "special purpose forces" and refers to all Russian special forces units and not a specific one.

[Naturalnewsistan]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/asia/isis-ramadi/

Ramadi in Iraq has fallen, the Iraqi Army fled and abandoned mass amounts of American supplied weapons to Daesh/IS/ISIS.

Ironic how the U.S. is effectively supplying Daesh with weapons by providing them to the Iraqi Army.

We might need to rethink our strategy or lack thereof it is not working well. The Delta Force raid was great, but this means we are probably going to be forced to provide more boots on the ground.

[Whitesands]

Daesh? I thought it was ISIS? Or are they the same thing?

Daesh is an Arabic acronym for ISIS, it's insulting to say the least so that's why most of us use it. Plus I don't want to call them a state, that's giving them far too much legitimacy.

How is Daesh pronounced? Die-esh? Daysh?