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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Wed May 13, 2015 8:37 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
The balkens wrote:ISIS theater presents: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
"So Omar, i hear old crazy abe is out on the lamb. who's the new guy?" "Some crazy asshat from america, hes a teenage brat but he motivates the other edgy anti western teenagers."

"IM A SUPER EDGY TEENAGER! SOMEBODY PAY ATTENTION TO ME! WHY DID YOU NEVER LOVE ME DADDY!? WHY DID YOU MAKE ME CLEAN MY ROOOOM!?"

"We're so fucked. Now i know why Ahmed left when he did. yelled on about getting that good western shit, like a hot wife, a TV, steak.....Actually that sounds good." "I just joined ISIS because i was getting fucked over by the Iraqi government." "Ah, you seriously dont believe this shit, right?" "Fuck no."


Well, to be fair, al-Maliki did antagonize Sunnis who otherwise wouldn't be given to supporting barbarians like ISIS.


Which was what i was trying to reference.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed May 13, 2015 8:49 pm

The balkens wrote:
Ganos Lao wrote:
Well, to be fair, al-Maliki did antagonize Sunnis who otherwise wouldn't be given to supporting barbarians like ISIS.


Which was what i was trying to reference.


It just shows the fundamental aspects of most movements of this nature. Sometimes people will gloss over the values of a movement if it's the enemy of my enemy, that sort of thing. Of course, by doing so, they are putting themselves up for some good real estate on the gallows.
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Postby The balkens » Wed May 13, 2015 9:01 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Which was what i was trying to reference.


It just shows the fundamental aspects of most movements of this nature. Sometimes people will gloss over the values of a movement if it's the enemy of my enemy, that sort of thing. Of course, by doing so, they are putting themselves up for some good real estate on the gallows.


Or in range of a JDAM dropped from a US fighter jet. or in some pissed off kurds cross hairs.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 12:03 am

I, for one, welcome our new Islamo-Fascist overlords. I will embrace them once they soon land upon our eastern seaboard. Scimitars will be raised over the heads of the infidel in Norfolk, Washington, and soon enough, St. Louis, and Los Angeles. Praise Allah, and may his justice upon the Christian heretic and Republican partisan be swift.
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Postby West Aurelia » Thu May 14, 2015 4:34 am

Iraq claims that a coalition airstrike killed IS' second-in-command in Tal Afar; however the video they released is from Mosul. They might want to double check where their videos are coming from.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Thu May 14, 2015 4:36 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I, for one, welcome our new Islamo-Fascist overlords. I will embrace them once they soon land upon our eastern seaboard. Scimitars will be raised over the heads of the infidel in Norfolk, Washington, and soon enough, St. Louis, and Los Angeles. Praise Allah, and may his justice upon the Christian heretic and Republican partisan be swift.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 8:34 am

Cyrisnia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I, for one, welcome our new Islamo-Fascist overlords. I will embrace them once they soon land upon our eastern seaboard. Scimitars will be raised over the heads of the infidel in Norfolk, Washington, and soon enough, St. Louis, and Los Angeles. Praise Allah, and may his justice upon the Christian heretic and Republican partisan be swift.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu May 14, 2015 9:03 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:wat

Satire is fun, ja?


It can be, not in your case though considering people are actually being slaughtered barbarically for their faith by ISIS right now.

In other words: too soon, brah.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 9:14 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Satire is fun, ja?


It can be, not in your case though considering people are actually being slaughtered barbarically for their faith by ISIS right now.

In other words: too soon, brah.

1. Nothing is sacred, brah

2. I was making fun of the people who seem to think ISIS will be on American shores implementing sharia law with their gay communist liberal puppet dictator, Obama, in on the scheme.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu May 14, 2015 9:16 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
It can be, not in your case though considering people are actually being slaughtered barbarically for their faith by ISIS right now.

In other words: too soon, brah.

1. Nothing is sacred, brah

2. I was making fun of the people who seem to think ISIS will be on American shores implementing sharia law with their gay communist liberal puppet dictator, Obama, in on the scheme.


1. Only to assholes.

2...I'm fairly certain there are no such people on this thread.
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 9:17 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:wat

Satire is fun, ja?

Bitch please,

It looks like I need to get Genghis Khan resurrected again so their dynasty can burn the caliphate to the ground again.
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 9:18 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:1. Nothing is sacred, brah

2. I was making fun of the people who seem to think ISIS will be on American shores implementing sharia law with their gay communist liberal puppet dictator, Obama, in on the scheme.


1. Only to assholes.

2...I'm fairly certain there are no such people on this thread.

While I wouldn't normally speak ill of the dead, since Jerry Falwell made a career out of it number one most certainly applied to them.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 9:21 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:1. Nothing is sacred, brah

2. I was making fun of the people who seem to think ISIS will be on American shores implementing sharia law with their gay communist liberal puppet dictator, Obama, in on the scheme.


1. Only to assholes.

2...I'm fairly certain there are no such people on this thread.

1. Nice to meet you, I'm Pruss.

2. Okay? The fuck does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 9:21 am

Benuty wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
1. Only to assholes.

2...I'm fairly certain there are no such people on this thread.

While I wouldn't normally speak ill of the dead, since Jerry Falwell made a career out of it number one most certainly applied to them.

I didn't speak ill of the dead.
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 9:27 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Benuty wrote:While I wouldn't normally speak ill of the dead, since Jerry Falwell made a career out of it number one most certainly applied to them.

I didn't speak ill of the dead.

And?

The response was still valid, considering Jerry Falwell held no shame when it came to victim blaming people especially on 9/11. So it does have to do with the idea that nothing is sacred of which said person was responding to.
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Postby Nitehawk » Thu May 14, 2015 9:53 am

I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 9:55 am

Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

Calling for death is a bit much, and a warnable offense...so don't.
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Postby Nitehawk » Thu May 14, 2015 9:57 am

Benuty wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

Calling for death is a bit much, and a warnable offense...so don't.


First, you're not a moderator. Second, thanks.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 14, 2015 9:58 am

Nitehawk wrote:
Benuty wrote:Calling for death is a bit much, and a warnable offense...so don't.


First, you're not a moderator. Second, thanks.

Not being a moderator doesn't mean we can't tell you what is and isn't kosher. When someone helps you out you probably shouldn't be a dick about it.
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Postby Nitehawk » Thu May 14, 2015 9:59 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:
First, you're not a moderator. Second, thanks.

Not being a moderator doesn't mean we can't tell you what is and isn't kosher. When someone helps you out you probably shouldn't be a dick about it.


Very well, let's get back onto the topic. I don't like ISIS, simple as.
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 10:00 am

Nitehawk wrote:
Benuty wrote:Calling for death is a bit much, and a warnable offense...so don't.


First, you're not a moderator. Second, thanks.

Advising is not the same thing as impersonating a mod.

Secondly, I never stated I was a mod, but rather something more.
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Postby Romalae » Thu May 14, 2015 11:59 am

Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

And what happens when their home country makes an error and mistakenly executes someone who went to fight with the Peshmerga?
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Postby Benuty » Thu May 14, 2015 12:09 pm

Romalae wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

And what happens when their home country makes an error and mistakenly executes someone who went to fight with the Peshmerga?

Which is possible I can just imagine the awkward apology to the family of the executed. "Uh...so I guess we kind of need to pay attention in the future maybe?".
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Postby Miletos » Thu May 14, 2015 12:33 pm

Romalae wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

And what happens when their home country makes an error and mistakenly executes someone who went to fight with the Peshmerga?

Then people decide that moronic kneejerk emotionally-laden responses to a complex social (and arguably legal) problem aren't actually a good idea, presumably.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Thu May 14, 2015 12:53 pm

Romalae wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:I don't care about the human rights of ISIS fighters, if they try cross back into their "home countries" they should be executed on the spot. Fuck them.

And what happens when their home country makes an error and mistakenly executes someone who went to fight with the Peshmerga?


I guess that depends wether it would be legal to fight for the Peshmerga. In alot of nations it would be considered illegal anyways, sure most people would disagree with the execution but you can't have everything i guess.
Now ofcourse in some nations its legal, like my own nation. Here its perfectly legal to fight with any foreign force as long as it isn't listed as a terrorist organization by the government, EU or UN and as long as that foreign force isn't attacking my nation. Now here's the issue, our nation 1st doesn't do executions and 2nd has a good legal system to avoid "executions on the spot".
Other then that, most nations know perfectly well who fights for who, and if they don't and lets say you fought for the Kurds or another militia which would be allowed, i'm sure you could proof it by making a single phonecall.
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