Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS)

[Gauthier]

What's edgier than fighting for a group that raped and murdered your own people?

Fighting for a theoretical sky lord?

An atheist dig at religion. Edgy, but not edgier.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I know were not supposed to advocate for the death of a group of people, but since said group is massacring innocent people across the middle east, might not this case be the exception to the rule?

[Ganos Lao]

I know were not supposed to advocate for the death of a group of people, but since said group is massacring innocent people across the middle east, might not this case be the exception to the rule?

One would do fit to advocate the death of the ideals that motivate such groups.

Let's be honest for a moment - even if we defeat ISIS, and we eventually will, how long until another group arises?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I know were not supposed to advocate for the death of a group of people, but since said group is massacring innocent people across the middle east, might not this case be the exception to the rule?

One would do fit to advocate the death of the ideals that motivate such groups.

Let's be honest for a moment - even if we defeat ISIS, and we eventually will, how long until another group arises?

Who knows. But that doesn't mean you don't fight. There's always another enemy.

[Ganos Lao]

When you bother to return to continue your jihad against us unbelievers, please have the courtesy to answer these questions:

1. Where is the evidence that the Peshmerga use child soldiers?
2. Where is the evidence that the Peshmerga are terrorists?
3. Why is it bad that women are standing up for their rights and freedoms as the men are?
4. Where is the evidence that the Kurds do not care about the creation of an independent state that has dictated Kurdish policy and thought for years? Also, where is the evidence that they are "filthy" and "devilish"?

If you can answer these questions, it will be appreciated.

The reason why people such as our fellow takfiri NS'er here hate the fact that the Kurds have female soldiers, is because in their delusional mind it's eternal shame to be killed by a woman. I believe I have even read something about IS members believing you cannot enter Paradise at all if you have been killed by woman, simply for that reason.
Now, I'm quite sure the soul of pretty much every IS member is already doomed anyway, but it is funny to see reports of IS fighters frankly being terrified at the prospect of fighting female Peshmerga.

ISIS apparently threatens them by saying they will capture and marry them if they don't lay down their arms.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Bullshit.

Why would that be bullshit? The way ISIS deployment works is based on where more fighters and needed and where the fighters come from. Also they need to esing mujahids to squads and platoons brigades etc. Where the commanders speak the same language Kurds and Iraqis make up most of the people in the Tikrit area and ISIS had a lot of Iraqi Sunni volunteers so they had an abundance and now Tikrit is under siege by the Iraqi terrorist army so now they are in action.

It's bullshit in that the vast majority of Kurds are fighting against Daesh forces. A few Kurds may have joined Daesh, but they are by far the exception, not the rule.

[Ganos Lao]

One would do fit to advocate the death of the ideals that motivate such groups.

Let's be honest for a moment - even if we defeat ISIS, and we eventually will, how long until another group arises?

Who knows. But that doesn't mean you don't fight. There's always another enemy.

Of course. But I wasn't saying we shouldn't fight, but that we ought to be mindful of the underlying causes of the problem that ISIS represents.

[Ganos Lao]

Why would that be bullshit? The way ISIS deployment works is based on where more fighters and needed and where the fighters come from. Also they need to esing mujahids to squads and platoons brigades etc. Where the commanders speak the same language Kurds and Iraqis make up most of the people in the Tikrit area and ISIS had a lot of Iraqi Sunni volunteers so they had an abundance and now Tikrit is under siege by the Iraqi terrorist army so now they are in action.

It's bullshit in that the vast majority of Kurds are fighting against Daesh forces. A few Kurds may have joined Daesh, but they are by far the exception, not the rule.

I don't see Kurdish ISIS militants lasting long in Kurdish hands. They will no doubt share the fate of the Hanjian in China after the Second World War.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Who knows. But that doesn't mean you don't fight. There's always another enemy.

Of course. But I wasn't saying we shouldn't fight, but that we ought to be mindful of the underlying causes of the problem that ISIS represents.

Well yes, as long as Sunnis are actively repressed by their Shiite Counterparts, this fermenting of dissent will continue to exist, and be a place where the extremist bullshit of jihadist cretins like Al-Baghdaddi will be able to take hold. Unfortunately that's an issue 1000 years in the making and not really one we can effect.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

It's bullshit in that the vast majority of Kurds are fighting against Daesh forces. A few Kurds may have joined Daesh, but they are by far the exception, not the rule.

I don't see Kurdish ISIS militants lasting long in Kurdish hands. They will no doubt share the fate of the Hanjian in China after the Second World War.

Me neither. Traitors aren't oft looked upon fondly.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

It amazes me that Daesh and its supporters think they somehow have the means and resources to actually take on the full brunt of the United States, let alone all her allies.

[Bulrosia]

It amazes me that Daesh and its supporters think they somehow have the means and resources to actually take on the full brunt of the United States, let alone all her allies.

They're hidiously wealthy for a terrorist group, have a steady supply of volunteers, and have in their position formidable arms from the Iraqi "army".

I'm quite surprised they haven't advanced further.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

It amazes me that Daesh and its supporters think they somehow have the means and resources to actually take on the full brunt of the United States, let alone all her allies.

They're hidiously wealthy for a terrorist group, have a steady supply of volunteers, and have in their position formidable arms from the Iraqi "army".

I'm quite surprised they haven't advanced further.

Quality over Quantity.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

It amazes me that Daesh and its supporters think they somehow have the means and resources to actually take on the full brunt of the United States, let alone all her allies.

They're hidiously wealthy for a terrorist group, have a steady supply of volunteers, and have in their position formidable arms from the Iraqi "army".

I'm quite surprised they haven't advanced further.

I'm not. Having a lot of bodies and access to largely antiquated armaments does not really mean anything when you are opposed by legitimate modern militaries.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

They're hidiously wealthy for a terrorist group, have a steady supply of volunteers, and have in their position formidable arms from the Iraqi "army".

I'm quite surprised they haven't advanced further.

I'm not. Having a lot of bodies and access to largely antiquated armaments does not really mean anything when you are opposed by legitimate modern militaries.

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[Bulrosia]

They're hidiously wealthy for a terrorist group, have a steady supply of volunteers, and have in their position formidable arms from the Iraqi "army".

I'm quite surprised they haven't advanced further.

I'm not. Having a lot of bodies and access to largely antiquated armaments does not really mean anything when you are opposed by legitimate modern militaries.

Perhaps best said if this was against a modern military like Israel and even the Saudis, but Iraq and Syria? Syria always maintained a large military due to it's regional confrontation with Israel, but the civil war coupled with the rebels capturing some Syrian army equipment; the Syrian army is not in it's golden age, shall we say.

The Iraqi army, despite huge money spent on new equipment since 2003, was simply a national armed police force, dealing with relatively low-level insurgency with aid from coalition forces. The rise of ISIL shows how dishonourable many Iraqi generals were by abandoning Mosul with few, if any, bullets fired. Many Iraqi soldiers simply signed up to get a regular pay check every month.

As for other nations, it is widely reported that many Jordanians, being a nation that is majority Sunni, support ISIL and its underlying ideals. Sure, they may be involved in coalition strikes, by who's to say radical supporters of ISIL aren't already in Jordan?

I personally disgusted at the whole Middle East. The Saudis Wahhabists (America's Jihad-supporting allies) are too busy bombing Shias in Yemen to put an end to ISIL, and by maintaining one of the largest defence budgets in the region, I believe they have the power to do so.

[-United Islamic Emirates-]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

[Alsheb]

I'm not. Having a lot of bodies and access to largely antiquated armaments does not really mean anything when you are opposed by legitimate modern militaries.

Perhaps best said if this was against a modern military like Israel and even the Saudis, but Iraq and Syria? Syria always maintained a large military due to it's regional confrontation with Israel, but the civil war coupled with the rebels capturing some Syrian army equipment, and the Syrian army is not in it's golden age, shall we say.

The Iraqi army, despite huge money spent on new equipment since 2003, was simply a national armed police force, dealing with relatively low-level insurgency with aid from coalition forces. The rise of ISIL shown how dishonourable many Iraqi generals were by abandoning Mosul with few, if any, bullets fired. Many Iraqi soldiers simply signed up to get a regular pay check every month.

As for other nations, it is widely reported that many Jordanians, being a nation that is majority Sunni, support ISIL and its underlying ideals.

I personally disgusted at the whole Middle East. The Saudis Wahhabists (America's Jihad-supporting allies) are too busy bombing Shias in Yemen to put an end to ISIL, and by maintaining one of the largest defence budgets in the region, I believe they have the power to do so.

Which is the terrible truth about Saudi Arabia and the Gulf emirates. They don't care about the Arab people or about the prosperity of the Middle East. They care about their own wealth and influence alone. And the US encourages them.

[Alsheb]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

Dude... do you really still think Daesh cares about what Islam actually says?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

So instead of accepting the hypocrisy of people, you're just gonna stick your fingers in your ears and scream "NU UH CAN'T HEAR YOU!"?
Sound plan. People made (make) the same claims about the Nazi's.

[The Nuclear Fist]

[. . .]I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.

"I will deny any evidence you show me that I find inconvenient."

[Alsheb]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

So instead of accepting the hypocrisy of people, you're just gonna stick your fingers in your ears and scream "NU UH CAN'T HEAR YOU!"?
Sound plan. People made (make) the same claims about the Nazi's.

Exactly. Fun fact about the Nazis: the concentration camps were never officially or publicly "legal" even according to the laws of the Third Reich. There have been cases of "inspections" of concentration camps, some inspectors even being naive enough to believe that the fake fronts that were presented to them as the actual camps were the real thing.

[Bulrosia]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

Murder is illegal by the law and against the commandments set by God. Guess what? People still do it.

Frankly, your logic is beyond stupid that from here forward I'd recommend everyone just ignores your ignorance. If you think that by sticking your hands in your ears and shouting "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" makes your argument any makes creditable, you are wrong.

[The Klishi Islands]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

You may deny it, but that's not gonna stop me from trying. Here's an assortment of sources, from the West, Russia, and Middle East.
If there are images on these sites that would not normally be allowed on NS, please let me know and I'll take them down.

International Business Times

Gateway Pundit

Al Jazeera

RT

CBS

CNN

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I won't deny the fact ISIS has killed lots of non-combatant Kurds but I will denie any allegations of rape and sexual slavery and "sexual jihad" I will deny it no matter how many news sources you give.
1.Rape is Zina and in Shari'ah punishable by the death of an adultuer stoning and lashings
2.Sexual Jihad does not exist it is counted as Bid'ah(innovation) as this lie was most likely made by a munafiq(hypocrite)
3.Sexual Slavery is Forbiden in Islam as the prophet Muhammad(SAAWS) would realse slaves from the enemies such as the Ethiopians,Banu Quraydha,Persians etc. Look up Bilal he was a close friend of Muhammad and a former slave also Muhammad never owned slaves as he did love his wives very much so therefore this would be Bid'ah and Munafiqun(Hypocraciy)created by the Munafiqeen(Hypocrites).
And ISIS being an Islamic State would not break the Sunnah(tradition) of Islam an trade it for Bid'ah and Bid'ah is a crime in Islam that is punishable by death and adultery is forbidden so it would make no sense for ISIS to do any of this since the ranks of ISIS are religious Muslims.

1. Except that under sharia a Woman's testimony cannot be taken against a mans with out witness, thus women are almost always punished for being raped.
2. Sexual Jihad does exist.
3. Sexual slavery yes, forced marriage is not. SInce in sharia marital rape isn't considered rape, one can marry and rape their spouse all they want be within sharia law. Thus it is de facto accepted while de jur condemned.

You're argument doesn't discredit other information, but rather only credits your own ignorance.