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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:59 am

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Congratulations, you think you know the five people in ISIS who aren't complete shit piles.

The organization still commits genocide, mass rape, slavery, widespread murder, and similar acts of brutality across the region.

You should probably pass that info about who you know over to the FBI. You might actually do some good for once.

They already know I met them on twitter. There all dead now probably and british. And havent talked aince november.

Well as long as they're all, heh, 'past due' I suppose.

Shame they didn't get dragged back to Britain to face charges.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:01 am

Mefpan wrote:
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Can you stop bringing every government agency in the US solar system to our humble little forum?

1) Fixed that for you.
2) It's amusing that you assume this hotbed of verbally violent revolutionary leftist drivel we all know and love isn't being monitored yet.


I feel like after the first week of monitoring us they be forced to abandon it due to losing so many people. After all, NS absorbs all who enter.

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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:03 am

Mefpan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Can you stop bringing every government agency in the US solar system to our humble little forum?

1) Fixed that for you.
2) It's amusing that you assume this hotbed of verbally violent revolutionary leftist drivel we all know and love isn't being monitored yet.

there is a french leftist/shiite "Islamist" terrorist here that i reported for making threata against france.
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Postby Marxist-Leninist Germany » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:45 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:The pamphlet says he must respect her wants when she utters. And he has to care for her child. That's not the true definition of rape it's not like the soviets in Berlin who broke down doors and pulling there penis out and you know the rest. These men have a reasposiblity to these women and has to care for them too and there possible child. So please.

What a fucking barbaric notion. Forcomg sex on anyone is rape, full stop.

ISIS is a bunch of shitheel, rapist slavers.

There's actually debate on this fact?
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Postby Marxist-Leninist Germany » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:46 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:The pamphlet says he must respect her wants when she utters. And he has to care for her child. That's not the true definition of rape it's not like the soviets in Berlin who broke down doors and pulling there penis out and you know the rest. These men have a reasposiblity to these women and has to care for them too and there possible child. So please.

What a fucking barbaric notion. Forcomg sex on anyone is rape, full stop.

ISIS is a bunch of shitheel, rapist slavers.

There's actually debate on this fact?
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Postby Al-Karkadan » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:48 am

Well, ISIS is rather heteronormative-masculine-chauvinist, so there should be little surprise when its sympathisers (or sympathisers of its allies) try to justify human rights abuses that 'put women in their place' (not my words, mind you).

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:54 am

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
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Daesh performs العمليات الاستشهادية against those fighting this Nizam al toghut wa mujrim. Even those so called ones with "pure intentions" continue to uphold the crimes of the Baghdadi and his followers. In my eyes Daesh is just as bad as Hizbulshaytan and the terrorists in Tehran(Westerners cannot understand that massacring people from the air without care and being responsible for the majority of deaths in Syria is just as bad as the crimes of Daesh). That aside Daesh has divided our fight against the criminal and terrorist Assad and his terrorist militias and allies. Daesh even attacks those you support such as Ahrar ash Sham and Nusra. Those who take away the dignity of innocent women and children, who burn and mutilate, those who fight the original rebels fighting for freedom, who massacre all Arabs even their owns Sunni brethern, innocent Christians who did not raise a gun against them. When the Syrian people welcomed them with open arms in the fight against the great satan Assad, they[daesh] turned on the people and massacred their rights and killed many from the tribes. Harming the revolution only made the uneducated on this planet see Iran as the better one. When we all know Iran has other plans but they act intelligent only to further their terrorist revolutionary agenda. How can you kill those fighting for their freedom, dignity, and land, who are being bombed indiscrimantley from the air? who are being gassed? who are being tortured?

I know this thats why im not an ISIS supporter I just have some mates in there. I didnt say I was a supporter Im just saying one shouldn't hate such either.

Right, let's not hate the organization bent on murder, rape and brutality, that decapitates and otherwise brutally murders innocent people daily. That would just be mean, guys.

You got to be fucking kidding.
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Postby Seraven » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:58 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.


Can you stop bringing every government agency in the US to our humble little forum?


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Postby Paketo » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:25 am

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I didn't see this mentioned, sorry if it already has been and I missed it, but what is your opinion on this new Christian militia?

In my opinion, while its great to have more forces fighting ISIS, having a milita form from a single religious group may just further divides in the forces fighting ISIS.
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Postby Al-Karkadan » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:30 am

If nobody else will defend them, it's only a matter of time before they themselves try it.

But such militias tend to be manned by relatively inexperienced fighters; I wouldn't expect too much of it.

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Postby Mefpan » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:32 am

Paketo wrote:link
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I didn't see this mentioned, sorry if it already has been and I missed it, but what is your opinion on this new Christian militia?

In my opinion, while its great to have more forces fighting ISIS, having a milita form from a single religious group may just further divides in the forces fighting ISIS.

I'd hope it furthers understanding among the various groups that they don't need to consider each other sworn enemies.

Well, except for ISIS, obviously. They'll likely use it as a pretext to cause more terror among the populace. Not that they really care for or need a pretext to be absolutely monstrous abominations to an extent that their description as such gravely insults both monsters and abominations alike, but it'll give them one nonetheless.
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Postby Paketo » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:33 am

Al-Karkadan wrote:If nobody else will defend them, it's only a matter of time before they themselves try it.

But such militias tend to be manned by relatively inexperienced fighters; I wouldn't expect too much of it.


Very true

I believe from the articles that only 200 have any sort of training right now and 500 are about to go into training. It definitely would take a few months before they were any kind of a solid fighting force.
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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:06 am

Paketo wrote:
Al-Karkadan wrote:If nobody else will defend them, it's only a matter of time before they themselves try it.

But such militias tend to be manned by relatively inexperienced fighters; I wouldn't expect too much of it.


Very true

I believe from the articles that only 200 have any sort of training right now and 500 are about to go into training. It definitely would take a few months before they were any kind of a solid fighting force.

I believe that there are 500 in training with 3,000 registered to begin training.
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Postby Al Nahar » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:54 am

Paketo wrote:link
link

I didn't see this mentioned, sorry if it already has been and I missed it, but what is your opinion on this new Christian militia?

In my opinion, while its great to have more forces fighting ISIS, having a milita form from a single religious group may just further divides in the forces fighting ISIS.


These militias will be defending NIneveh plains, they are not an offensive force. The KRG obviously doesn't like this because they want them to be completely party of the Peshmerga.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:08 pm

Meanwhile at Kobani, the battle is now coming into a crushing defeat for the Daesh as surrounding villages and towns owned by those Barbarians in Black are being recaptured by the Kurdish forces with the help of Syrian Rebels and Coalition air support.
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Better news (Well maybe so)

4,000 strong Christian Militia in Northern Iraq has been established to fight the Daesh.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:48 pm

I for one think we need to be doing far more to support the struggle of the YPG.
They've more then earned my support.
We already have western volunteers joining they're fight for their way of life and I find it shameful that our governments aren't doing more to support them.
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Postby The balkens » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:13 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:Meanwhile at Kobani, the battle is now coming into a crushing defeat for the Daesh as surrounding villages and towns owned by those Barbarians in Black are being recaptured by the Kurdish forces with the help of Syrian Rebels and Coalition air support.


Better news (Well maybe so)

4,000 strong Christian Militia in Northern Iraq has been established to fight the Daesh.


Wow.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:27 pm

I'm not sure, this may have already been posted. But looks like the Abdullah flight was a myth:
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Postby Keronika » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:51 pm

Genivaria wrote:I for one think we need to be doing far more to support the struggle of the YPG.
They've more then earned my support.
We already have western volunteers joining they're fight for their way of life and I find it shameful that our governments aren't doing more to support them.


I thought I was the only one who felt this way. It's good to see Christian militias finally forming in Iraq. In Syria, the Syriac Military Council and Sutoro Christian militas have been fighting alongside the YPG for some time.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:09 pm

Keronika wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I for one think we need to be doing far more to support the struggle of the YPG.
They've more then earned my support.
We already have western volunteers joining they're fight for their way of life and I find it shameful that our governments aren't doing more to support them.


I thought I was the only one who felt this way. It's good to see Christian militias finally forming in Iraq. In Syria, the Syriac Military Council and Sutoro Christian militas have been fighting alongside the YPG for some time.

Just type in Sotoro on YouTube and read the commentsm , people from all over are asking about the possibility of joining these fighters. This spirit of humanity is inspiring.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:49 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:52 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

Well then. This is getting interesting.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:53 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

Are we sure he's American? His posts seem rather...British. Either way, yes not a good idea regardless.

And Al-Nusra and ISIS are both evil. Full stop.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:56 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Now now, NationStates allows the use of the Islamic State flag for one's nation so clearly it means that one is allowed to have actual association with the IS.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:14 pm

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You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Now now, NationStates allows the use of the Islamic State flag for one's nation so clearly it means that one is allowed to have actual association with the IS.


Not really. And even if it did, Nationstates policy doesn't trump the law.
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