Russia hits West with food import ban in sanctions row

[Arkinesia]

And now Russia is going to starve.

You can't eat Sharia or nationalism.

[Imperializt Russia]

And now Russia is going to starve.

You can't eat Sharia or nationalism.

You can eat the remaining 95%+ of the value of your food and drinks market, however.

[Tahar Joblis]

This is Russia saying: if you continue, we'll cut off your oil too. These are the preliminary shots. Putin's saying: he's not going to take any of the West's nonsense.

It's very clever. They can just import from other countries.

Food imports to Russia make up roughly 3% of the global food import market.

Food exports from the US, EU, Australia, Canada, and Norway, on the other hand, make up close to a third of the global food export market. The economic impact of this is a lot more serious for Russian consumers than for Western exporters.

Putin is demonstrating that he's serious, but he's doing so in a way that demonstrates he doesn't really care about the well-being of his people as much as the power of his state.

[Arkolon]

The negative consequences outweigh the positives on every possible front of this idea. I don't see how someone could have thought this would do more good than harm; it's symbolic, but harmful.

[Darkey]

Source?

And your opinion OP?

Anyway, Ol' Vladdy is harming his own economy this way, most of the Russian market relies on import.

Uncle Puty probably expects China, Iran and other kids from the Unpopular Crowd to pick up the slack.

[Rio Cana]

Source?



Uncle Puty probably expects China, Iran and other kids from the Unpopular Crowd to pick up the slack.

Chances are the Russian leader already made sure other nations could fill the gap of food before banning imports from the US, Australia, Canada and most of Europe. Was NZ. also included.

[Antarticaria]

Chances are the Russian leader already made sure other nations could fill the gap of food before banning imports from the US, Australia, Canada and most of Europe. Was NZ. also included.

Sadly I dont think those nations can support Russia without starving themselves (more). So I am sure the import gap will not only damage Russia but damage its contributors as well (should they not change their mind that is).

[Rio Cana]

Just found out that a major chunk of the Central American Pacific region and parts of the inland sections are having a major drought. This includes Nicaragua which could affect there cattle population. Which means Russia might not get all the cattle they might want. Unless, they want thin cattle. Seems the Central American Caribbean regions is having sufficient rainfall.

Story - http://www.laht.com/article.asp?Article ... ryId=23558

[Allanea]

The people in this thread predicting starvation in Russia aren't predicting literal starvation in Russia, one hopes.

[Hladgos]

This title is inappropriate. It's more of; Russia is confused, Russia hit itself with sanctions in it's confusion!

[Rio Cana]

Like I already posted, this should get Russia to finally pay attention to there neglected agricultural sector. A nation with that much land should be able to feed itself. Climate should not be a real problem.

[Geilinor]

Like I already posted, this should get Russia to finally pay attention to there neglected agricultural sector. A nation with that much land should be able to feed itself. Climate should not be a real problem.

Russia isn't going to starve, but prices will increase and the variety will be limited.

[Allanea]

Like I already posted, this should get Russia to finally pay attention to there neglected agricultural sector. A nation with that much land should be able to feed itself. Climate should not be a real problem.

Russia isn't going to starve, but prices will increase and the variety will be limited.

Neither 'magical improvements of Russia's agriculture' nor 'starvation' are likely.

Here's what'll happen:

1. Prices will rise somewhat.

2. Bureaucrats that are responsible for making the list of which specific Western products are banned (not all of them are) will make millions.

3. There'll be a temporary shortage of some products, but then replacements will be found.

4. People tied to the Putin clan who knew about this ahead of time will make hundreds of millions.

5. Western farmers will lose a bit of money.

6. Lithuanian and Latvian farmers will be worst hit.

[Rio Cana]

Russia isn't going to starve, but prices will increase and the variety will be limited.

Neither 'magical improvements of Russia's agriculture' nor 'starvation' are likely.

Here's what'll happen:

1. Prices will rise somewhat.

2. Bureaucrats that are responsible for making the list of which specific Western products are banned (not all of them are) will make millions.

3. There'll be a temporary shortage of some products, but then replacements will be found.

4. People tied to the Putin clan who knew about this ahead of time will make hundreds of millions.

5. Western farmers will lose a bit of money.

6. Lithuanian and Latvian farmers will be worst hit.

The Lithuanians and Latvian just need to put grown in Belarus stickers on the produce and pay a Belarus flagged merchant cargo ship to deliver them. Or a Belarus trucking company.

[Gauthier]

Just found out that a major chunk of the Central American Pacific region and parts of the inland sections are having a major drought. This includes Nicaragua which could affect there cattle population. Which means Russia might not get all the cattle they might want. Unless, they want thin cattle. Seems the Central American Caribbean regions is having sufficient rainfall.

Story - http://www.laht.com/article.asp?Article ... ryId=23558

Maybe Putin will advertise them as Extra Lean Beef.

[United Bosna i Hercegovina]

So they are also not trading with there slavic brothers

[Allanea]

Just in:

Russian Sea Aquaculture company doubles price for its salmon. [RUSSIAN LANGUAGE ARTICLE

[Allanea]

This is relevant too.

[Freiheit Reich]

Countries need to stop sanctions. They hurt the common people. The leaders are powerful and never get affected by sanctions.

The USA won't mind too much. Plenty of other nations want US goods.

[Carbon based lifeforms]

Countries need to stop sanctions. They hurt the common people. The leaders are powerful and never get affected by sanctions.

Last I heard, Russia is a democracy. Or at least it claims to be. Which means the people are free to vote Putin out of office anytime. Strictly speaking, this whole thing is the "common people's" fault for voting him into office in the first place.

[Imperializt Russia]

Countries need to stop sanctions. They hurt the common people. The leaders are powerful and never get affected by sanctions.

Last I heard, Russia is a democracy. Or at least it claims to be. Which means the people are free to vote Putin out of office anytime. Strictly speaking, this whole thing is the "common people's" fault for voting him into office in the first place.

The common people are manipulated by the media, moreso in countries like Russia with iron-grip state media outlets and widely practised censorship.

While the Nazis were a popular party, they were never elected into leadership - they were too small to take or reasonably form a majority, Hitler merely cemented himself as ruler by accruing favours from a dying president.
But crucially, one-third of Germans voted for Hitler and the Nazi Party in 1932.
More than the proportion of Brits who voted for Cameron and the Tory Party in 2010.

[Uelvan]

Well if Putin is willing to let food prices go up in his country, then that's his prerogative.

[Carbon based lifeforms]

Last I heard, Russia is a democracy. Or at least it claims to be. Which means the people are free to vote Putin out of office anytime. Strictly speaking, this whole thing is the "common people's" fault for voting him into office in the first place.

The common people are manipulated by the media, moreso in countries like Russia with iron-grip state media outlets and widely practised censorship.

While the Nazis were a popular party, they were never elected into leadership - they were too small to take or reasonably form a majority, Hitler merely cemented himself as ruler by accruing favours from a dying president.
But crucially, one-third of Germans voted for Hitler and the Nazi Party in 1932.
More than the proportion of Brits who voted for Cameron and the Tory Party in 2010.

Exactly. Which means, as I tried to imply, one of two things:
1. Russia is not a democracy; or
2. the people who voted for Putin are to blame.

[Arglorand]

The common people are manipulated by the media, moreso in countries like Russia with iron-grip state media outlets and widely practised censorship.

While the Nazis were a popular party, they were never elected into leadership - they were too small to take or reasonably form a majority, Hitler merely cemented himself as ruler by accruing favours from a dying president.
But crucially, one-third of Germans voted for Hitler and the Nazi Party in 1932.
More than the proportion of Brits who voted for Cameron and the Tory Party in 2010.

Exactly. Which means, as I tried to imply, one of two things:
1. Russia is not a democracy; or
2. the people who voted for Putin are to blame.

Considering the 102% turnouts in Chechnya...

[Greed and Death]

The EU especially the South EU gets hurt more by the food sanctions than anyone else. Italy and Greece may experience a sudden drop in revenue.