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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:04 am

Geanna wrote:My hopes for an actual democratic, rising Republic of Russia died out after 2008.

Call me an eternal optimist, but I haven't lost those hopes yet. There are many Russians, especially among the youth, who can change things, who think in relatively modern, original ways and who do not conform.

It's just a question of how many Bolotnaya arrests will it take for the regime to finally go maidan.
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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:04 am

Arglorand wrote:
Geanna wrote:My hopes for an actual democratic, rising Republic of Russia died out after 2008.

Call me an eternal optimist, but I haven't lost those hopes yet. There are many Russians, especially among the youth, who can change things, who think in relatively modern, original ways and who do not conform.

It's just a question of how many Bolotnaya arrests will it take for the regime to finally go maidan.



I too have some hope for that, but I feel like its something that will happen closer to 2030 than 2015....
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:05 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Arglorand wrote:So that's 188,248,184 non-Russian votes vs. 143,800,000 Russian votes.

Odds are in our favour. Bring on the referendum.

Don't forget a hidden clause that involves dismantling the Russian Federation in the event of a no vote.


Dismantle it into what exactly?

No worries. Russian Empire will come true. Next we shall bring back the Austro-Hungarian Empire. *nods*

Partition it, obv. Between Greater Chechnya, Northern China, and Eastern Belarus. *nods while sipping green tea in a sage manner*
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Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:06 am

Arglorand wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Dismantle it into what exactly?

No worries. Russian Empire will come true. Next we shall bring back the Austro-Hungarian Empire. *nods*

Partition it, obv. Between Greater Chechnya, Northern China, and Eastern Belarus. *nods while sipping green tea in a sage manner*


Don't forget to give Mongolia some land as well. After all, the Asiatic minorities were oppressed under the Tsars, they could do with some eventual compensation.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:06 am

Valaran wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Dismantle it into what exactly?

No worries. Russian Empire will come true. Next we shall bring back the Austro-Hungarian a Empire. *nods*



and the Ottoman one as well while we are here *nods sagely*


Yes, but it most be the Empire at it's full height or it will be no good.

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Postby Vamtrl » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:07 am

Farnhamia wrote:
ZATAK wrote:Maybe no Western trees.........


Its Putin you don't know what to expect.

You said he's using this to threaten something more in the future. I want to know what you think he's threatening next.


Start relationship with Best Korea. :p

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:08 am

Vamtrl wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You said he's using this to threaten something more in the future. I want to know what you think he's threatening next.


Start relationship with Best Korea. :p


They already have one though..
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:08 am

Valaran wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Partition it, obv. Between Greater Chechnya, Northern China, and Eastern Belarus. *nods while sipping green tea in a sage manner*


Don't forget to give Mongolia some land as well. After all, the Asiatic minorities were oppressed under the Tsars, they could do with some eventual compensation.

independent yakutia should solve that issue
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:08 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Valaran wrote:

and the Ottoman one as well while we are here *nods sagely*


Yes, but it most be the Empire at it's full height or it will be no good.

http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/86/64886-004-2353B724.gif


True.

Might even quieten the middle East down while its there *tries to nod sagely but ends up looking hopelessly naive"
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:09 am

A least this will get the Russian government to finally pay more attention to its agriculture sector.

Seems Argentina, Uruguay and Nicaragua will be selling plenty of meat in the coming weeks. Chile will be selling more grapes and other fruits to Russia.

So will US canned Chicken become a luxury item in Russia.
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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:09 am

Arglorand wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Don't forget to give Mongolia some land as well. After all, the Asiatic minorities were oppressed under the Tsars, they could do with some eventual compensation.

independent yakutia should solve that issue



ah ok, that's a good alternative.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:10 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Start relationship with Best Korea. :p


They already have one though..

It was a one-night thing until now, though. Russia was just purely physically attracted to those mildly underfed, unhealthily skinny lines.

Now, Russia can embrace her true nature and love Best Korea as she was meant to.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:10 am

Valaran wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Yes, but it most be the Empire at it's full height or it will be no good.

http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/86/64886-004-2353B724.gif


True.

Might even quieten the middle East down while its there *tries to nod sagely but ends up looking hopelessly naive"


Ha! Egypt is Ottoman! Greece is Ottoman! Persia is Ottoman! Russia is Ottoman! *nods while eating uncooked pasta*
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:10 am

Oh shit our developed economies are finished because we can't sell apples to Russia.

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:10 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Valaran wrote:
True.

Might even quieten the middle East down while its there *tries to nod sagely but ends up looking hopelessly naive"


Ha! Egypt is Ottoman! Greece is Ottoman! Persia is Ottoman! Russia is Ottoman! *nods while eating uncooked pasta*

And, for that record, so is Crimea.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:11 am

Arglorand wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They already have one though..

It was a one-night thing until now, though. Russia was just attracted to those mildly underfed, unhealthily skinny lines.

Now, Russia can embrace her true nature and love Best Korea as she was meant to.




I have to say I do like this level of seriousness; I feel its the most appropriate considering the 'vast impact' that Putin's bans will have on the West. :p
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:11 am

Rio Cana wrote:A least this will get the Russian government to finally pay more attention to its agriculture sector.

Seems Argentina, Uruguay and Nicaragua will be selling plenty of meat in the coming weeks. Chile will be selling more grapes and other fruits to Russia.

So will US canned Chicken become a luxury item in Russia.

I don't think the embargo includes chicken, not yet.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:12 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:A least this will get the Russian government to finally pay more attention to its agriculture sector.

Seems Argentina, Uruguay and Nicaragua will be selling plenty of meat in the coming weeks. Chile will be selling more grapes and other fruits to Russia.

So will US canned Chicken become a luxury item in Russia.

I don't think the embargo includes chicken, not yet.


It said meats.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:12 am

Valaran wrote:
Arglorand wrote:It was a one-night thing until now, though. Russia was just attracted to those mildly underfed, unhealthily skinny lines.

Now, Russia can embrace her true nature and love Best Korea as she was meant to.




I have to say I do like this level of seriousness; I feel its the most appropriate considering the 'vast impact' of Putin's bans.

Well, you have to admit that a diet of solely buckwheat and "Baltika" beer, sometimes with an extra serving of Belarusian ice cream (which has more air in it than actual ice cream) will have a grand impact on obesity levels in Russia, lowering them radically over the course of little over a year.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 am

Arglorand wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Ha! Egypt is Ottoman! Greece is Ottoman! Persia is Ottoman! Russia is Ottoman! *nods while eating uncooked pasta*

And, for that record, so is Crimea.


Nope. Crimea still belongs to Iran,
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 am

Arglorand wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They already have one though..

It was a one-night thing until now, though. Russia was just attracted to those mildly underfed, unhealthily skinny lines.

Now, Russia can embrace her true nature and love Best Korea as she was meant to.


Well then, have fun with that Putin. Best Korea needs more loving anyway, so this is all good in the end.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Arglorand wrote:And, for that record, so is Crimea.


Nope. Crimea still belongs to Iran,

Oh right. Scythians being an Iranian people and all that.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Valaran » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 am

Arglorand wrote:
Valaran wrote:


I have to say I do like this level of seriousness; I feel its the most appropriate considering the 'vast impact' of Putin's bans.

Well, you have to admit that a diet of solely buckwheat and "Baltika" beer, sometimes with an extra serving of Belarusian ice cream (which has more air in it than actual ice cream) will have a grand impact on obesity levels in Russia, lowering them radically over the course of little over a year.



Oh naturally. That health crisis doesn't look nearly so bad now, does it? Its all part of Putin's grand master plan; turning people off food entirely.
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:14 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I don't think the embargo includes chicken, not yet.


It said meats.

I could have sworn I read "but not yet chicken." Oh, well.
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:15 am

Valaran wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Well, you have to admit that a diet of solely buckwheat and "Baltika" beer, sometimes with an extra serving of Belarusian ice cream (which has more air in it than actual ice cream) will have a grand impact on obesity levels in Russia, lowering them radically over the course of little over a year.



Oh naturally. That health crisis doesn't look nearly so bad now, does it? Its all part of Putin's grand master plan; turning people off food entirely.

Not to mention the element of surprise. Say what you will, but those pesky Kyivan rebels did not expect Ukraine Wars V to be titled "The Empire Stops Eating."
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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