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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:16 pm

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And

As I said. Your reading comprehension issues aside, no-one did anything of the sort.

I was drawing the similarities between what always happens on political threads here on NS, due to the majority of user being Liberal,

And you attacking my "reading issues" when you don't even know me, how cute :blush:
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:16 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:She didn't "go in a hissy fit", nor was her reaction due to someone criticizing her.
Her reaction was due to him lying tl the American people on the House floor.

Why would she get that mad over something that happens every day unless it was directed at her?

Source that elected representatives blatantly lie to the public from the House floor every day?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:17 pm

Kelmet wrote:I like how you guys took it from an opinion on what she did to

Oh, Fox new's and the evil republicans


Well? If you looked at the video, he is a republican talking on fox news. So your point?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:17 pm

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Oh, so now we're back to the subject, and not odd accusations that I'm angry because Pelosi's being mocked? Good to know.

I don't think that Pelosi needs a defense for her actions. It was a mild break with decorum, and probably not worth the energy that it took for you to make a thread.

Where was I rude to you?

You certainly seemed to be angry since you're talking a whole holier than thou attitude and said "Pfft, there doesn't need to be a thread for this."

I made this thread for one reason: to have a good ole time and and laugh at Pelosi for acting like a crazy old senile bat. I mean, I've seen other people make threads dedicated to mocking Republicans for making mistakes and I never heard a peep from you regarding them. Why the sudden disgust for this thread? What's so bad about laughing at her silly mistake?

And you were rude to me with the whole "I don't even take you seriously bro" thing. And if you can't understand how someone would take offense at that then you truly are dense.


Okay, so you're laughing at Pelosi. We're simply disagreeing with your idea that her actions are a source of mockery, and questioning the premise of some of your assumptions. That's not a holier than thou attitude. That's simply how disagreements work. If you're not able to handle disagreements without accusing others of having a poor attitude or of having ugly motivations, then it's going to be very difficult for you to find people willing to engage with you after a while. And, yes, one of the things that I'm calling into question is the need for this thread over what seems to have been a minor matter. I don't see the need for it, you disagree. I fail to see how this implies any anger on my part.

My comment regarding taking you seriously was an attempt to explain why you were mistaken in your thought that I was angry. I can't get angry at you, since I don't take you seriously at all. If you're not able to handle people explaining to you why you're wrong regarding their motivations and feelings, then perhaps you shouldn't attempt to characterize their motivations and feelings.
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Postby Viritica » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:17 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Viritica wrote:It seems pretty childish. She went into a massive hissy fit over people criticizing her.

Politicians get criticized by everyone and everything. If you can't handle it you shouldn't be a politician.

She didn't "go in a hissy fit", nor was her reaction due to someone criticizing her.
Her reaction was due to him lying tl the American people on the House floor.

Lying, criticism, whatever. I'm not here to debate the merits of what he said. She chased him around the House floor, made Tweets to her cult of followers calling "insignificant", and accepted an apology that there's no proof he gave.
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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:17 pm

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Kelmet wrote:Why would she get that mad over something that happens every day unless it was directed at her?

Source that elected representatives blatantly lie to the public from the House floor every day?

Politics? :lol2:
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Postby Viritica » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:18 pm

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Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Viritica - and anyone else getting caught up in things here: Attack the argument, not the poster. And kindly refrain from 'nuh uh, you' and 'this one time you hurt my feels so I'ma hurt yours' and other such back and forth snarkery. If you can't debate with some measure of civility, this may not be the place for you.

Kinda like you just said with the politicians. Amazing how that works.

Seems very odd that you addressed that primarily towards Viriticia.

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I don't think she likes me.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:18 pm

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Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Viritica - and anyone else getting caught up in things here: Attack the argument, not the poster. And kindly refrain from 'nuh uh, you' and 'this one time you hurt my feels so I'ma hurt yours' and other such back and forth snarkery. If you can't debate with some measure of civility, this may not be the place for you.

Kinda like you just said with the politicians. Amazing how that works.

Seems very odd that you addressed that primarily towards Viriticia.


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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:18 pm

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Kelmet wrote:I like how you guys took it from an opinion on what she did to

Oh, Fox new's and the evil republicans


Well? If you looked at the video, he is a republican talking on fox news. So your point?

I was drawing the similarities between what always happens on political threads here on NS, due to the majority of users being Liberal,
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:18 pm

Kelmet wrote:I like how you guys took it from an opinion on what she did to

Oh, Fox new's and the evil republicans


There's no apostrophe in "news".

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:19 pm

Kelmet wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:As I said. Your reading comprehension issues aside, no-one did anything of the sort.

I was drawing the similarities between what always happens on political threads here on NS, due to the majority of user being Liberal,

And you attacking my "reading issues" when you don't even know me, how cute :blush:

I know you failed to read the comments you used as evidence in context.
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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:19 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Kelmet wrote:I like how you guys took it from an opinion on what she did to

Oh, Fox new's and the evil republicans


There's no apostrophe in "news".

Inadvertently showing how serious I take the US congress, and mass media
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:20 pm

Viritica wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:She didn't "go in a hissy fit", nor was her reaction due to someone criticizing her.
Her reaction was due to him lying tl the American people on the House floor.

Lying, criticism, whatever. I'm not here to debate the merits of what he said. She chased him around the House floor, made Tweets to her cult of followers calling "insignificant", and accepted an apology that there's no proof he gave.


So? How is quickly walking across the room to his side equate to chasing?

Is there more video of him running around the room crying "she is after me!!!!!"
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:20 pm

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And yet she still would have been 100% accurate.


She would have been. That's not a slam on Republicans as being evil, it's what I consider to be an accurate description of the Congressman in question.

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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:20 pm

Look, newbies telling me how to do my job and generally piss me off would get to me, but you can't pull this shit. Not to mention, it's a huge distraction now from policy.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Kelmet wrote:
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Well? If you looked at the video, he is a republican talking on fox news. So your point?

I was drawing the similarities between what always happens on political threads here on NS, due to the majority of users being Liberal,


*shrugs* Defending Fox is rather strange way to argue. Low grade infotainment that it is.....
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:21 pm

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i disagree but whatever.

People can be really theatrical and rude (like in the OP) because democracy, through its adversarial nature promotes confrontationalism and has a higher tolerance for theatrics. The elected representatives in general also come from really aggressive professions (like running businesses or being lawyers) and this promotes a different dynamic than if you were raised a gentleman, in a mansion, and with all the proprieties of good manner from a young age. It's just different.

An aggressive profession is better than having all your status and power handed to you on a golden platter without needing an actual profession.


not if you want to avoid/minimize incidents of immature theatrical behavior like the type described by the OP...

There's a difference between a society where everyone is primarily raised to serve, behave well, and be civilized and another where people are raised from day one to be competitive, aggressive, politicians. Its the latter group that fills our governments now sadly.

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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:21 pm

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She would have been. That's not a slam on Republicans as being evil, it's what I consider to be an accurate description of the Congressman in question.

The Congressmen in question has been know to stretch the truth on more than one occasion.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Viritica wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:She didn't "go in a hissy fit", nor was her reaction due to someone criticizing her.
Her reaction was due to him lying tl the American people on the House floor.

Lying, criticism, whatever. I'm not here to debate the merits of what he said. She chased him around the House floor, made Tweets to her cult of followers calling "insignificant", and accepted an apology that there's no proof he gave.

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Postby Kelmet » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:22 pm

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Kelmet wrote:I was drawing the similarities between what always happens on political threads here on NS, due to the majority of users being Liberal,


*shrugs* Defending Fox is rather strange way to argue. Low grade infotainment that it is.....

I would never defend a news corporation. Just saying how popular of a target they are.
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Postby Viritica » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:23 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Viritica wrote:You certainly seemed to be angry since you're talking a whole holier than thou attitude and said "Pfft, there doesn't need to be a thread for this."

I made this thread for one reason: to have a good ole time and and laugh at Pelosi for acting like a crazy old senile bat. I mean, I've seen other people make threads dedicated to mocking Republicans for making mistakes and I never heard a peep from you regarding them. Why the sudden disgust for this thread? What's so bad about laughing at her silly mistake?

And you were rude to me with the whole "I don't even take you seriously bro" thing. And if you can't understand how someone would take offense at that then you truly are dense.


1. Okay, so you're laughing at Pelosi. We're simply disagreeing with your idea that her actions are a source of mockery, and questioning the premise of some of your assumptions. That's not a holier than thou attitude. That's simply how disagreements work. If you're not able to handle disagreements without accusing others of having a poor attitude or of having ugly motivations, then it's going to be very difficult for you to find people willing to engage with you after a while. And, yes, one of the things that I'm calling into question is the need for this thread over what seems to have been a minor matter. I don't see the need for it, you disagree. I fail to see how this implies any anger on my part.

2. My comment regarding taking you seriously was an attempt to explain why you were mistaken in your thought that I was angry. I can't get angry at you, since I don't take you seriously at all. If you're not able to handle people explaining to you why you're wrong regarding their motivations and feelings, then perhaps you shouldn't attempt to characterize their motivations and feelings.

1. But how are her actions not a source of mockery? I mean, honestly. She blatantly breaks House decorum, chases a Republican around the floor, made Tweets calling him "insignificant" (if that isn't childish then I don't know what is), and accepted an apology she has no proof he ever gave. If you can't see how people would mock that, then you're dense. It's as simple as that. And you still haven't addressed my other point. There have been plenty of other threads on this forum dedicated to mocking Republicans. Two that happened fairly recently (one was that whole Republican gets a Democrat confused with a foreigner thing). I never heard a peep from you regarding those threads. So why the sudden interest in this one? Why can't we have a laugh at Pelosi's funny mistake?

2. You certainly came off as if you were angry. You seem to be fairly ravenous in defending Pelosi in this instance. I'm somewhat maybe not really sorry that I got your emotions mixed up. It's a rather moot point, and I honestly don't care if you don't take me seriously. I do take offense at insults, though.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:23 pm

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
There's no apostrophe in "news".

Inadvertently showing how serious I take the US congress, and mass media


And punctuation.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:23 pm

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*shrugs* Defending Fox is rather strange way to argue. Low grade infotainment that it is.....

I would never defend a news corporation. Just saying how popular of a target they are.


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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:24 pm

Kelmet wrote:
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*shrugs* Defending Fox is rather strange way to argue. Low grade infotainment that it is.....

I would never defend a news corporation. Just saying how popular of a target they are.

That might have something to do with their going to court tl defend their "right" to lie...
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Postby Viritica » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:24 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Viritica wrote:Lying, criticism, whatever. I'm not here to debate the merits of what he said. She chased him around the House floor, made Tweets to her cult of followers calling "insignificant", and accepted an apology that there's no proof he gave.


So? How is quickly walking across the room to his side equate to chasing?

Is there more video of him running around the room crying "she is after me!!!!!"

It's breaking House decorum and following him. It's not something really becoming of a Congresswoman.
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