NATION

PASSWORD

Is genocide ever justified?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Is genocide ever justified?

Yes
8
17%
No
39
83%
 
Total votes : 47

User avatar
Rio de Fuego
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1454
Founded: Jan 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rio de Fuego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:12 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
District XIV wrote:Prove it.

Without the Bible, please.

Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

That's like saying twilight gives me a right to live with a vampire in washington
Get out Nazi punks

User avatar
Kumuri
Diplomat
 
Posts: 845
Founded: Mar 22, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Kumuri » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:12 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:Why not?

Because it's mass murder.

Mass murder of often civilians who usually pose no threat.
╔═════════════════════════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═════════════════════════════════════╗
dead
╚═════════════════════════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═════════════════════════════════════╝

User avatar
Rio de Fuego
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1454
Founded: Jan 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rio de Fuego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:13 pm

Viritica wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:I get that, but when those to claims are the exact same tract of land who's claim is greater. Those who lived there for centuries or those who lived there a millennium ago

I believe they both have claim to the land, which is why I'm a supporter of the two-state solution.

I don't consider either claim to be greater than the other at this point.

I also support two states but the two states would be a larger palestine and smaller israel
Get out Nazi punks

User avatar
District XIV
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5990
Founded: Dec 01, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby District XIV » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:13 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
District XIV wrote:Prove it.

Without the Bible, please.

Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

No, it's really not when it comes to territorial disputes.

Try again.
Last edited by District XIV on Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Stagnant Axon Terminal
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16621
Founded: Feb 24, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:13 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.


The derp is strong in this post.

I actually had to stop and question whether or not I want to be on a website with that sentence.
TET's resident state assessment exam
My sworn enemy is the Toyota 4Runner
I scream a lot.
Also, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

User avatar
Persian Soviet Republics
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jul 24, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Persian Soviet Republics » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

I must say this:

If some strange people came and kicked me out of my home and forced my family to live in a little strip of land and have our freedom of movement restricted, and our basic human rights deprived, I sure as hell would support somebody that was going to shoot missiles at those people.

Israel and Hamas are BOTH terrible. I feel the pain the the thousands of innocent people that have to be trapped in between this mess, Israeli AND Palestinian, Muslim AND Christian AND Jewish.....

User avatar
Rio de Fuego
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1454
Founded: Jan 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rio de Fuego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Persian Soviet Republics wrote:I must say this:

If some strange people came and kicked me out of my home and forced my family to live in a little strip of land and have our freedom of movement restricted, and our basic human rights deprived, I sure as hell would support somebody that was going to shoot missiles at those people.

Israel and Hamas are BOTH terrible. I feel the pain the the thousands of innocent people that have to be trapped in between this mess, Israeli AND Palestinian, Muslim AND Christian AND Jewish.....

Amen
Get out Nazi punks

User avatar
The Liberated Territories
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11859
Founded: Dec 03, 2013
Capitalizt

Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Only against the Neanderthals*

*define genocide
Left Wing Market Anarchism

Yes, I am back(ish)

User avatar
Planita
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1767
Founded: May 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Planita » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

:roll:
No it's not.

Your emoji is understating it. It should be: :palm:

User avatar
Nanatsu no Tsuki
Post-Apocalypse Survivor
 
Posts: 203946
Founded: Feb 10, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The derp is strong in this post.

I actually had to stop and question whether or not I want to be on a website with that sentence.


His? Yeah. Makes one pause.
Slava Ukraini
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats
Cat with internet access||Supposedly heartless, & a d*ck.||Is maith an t-earra an tsíocháin.||No TGs
RIP: Dyakovo & Ashmoria

User avatar
Jonessippi
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 47
Founded: Aug 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Jonessippi » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.


Have you ever read a history book on this subject that wasn't written is Israel? Arabs lived on that land for centuries before England imported them after WW2. Many Zionists brought guns and were already panning on using them. A peace was signed in 67 but Israel ignored it and has been illegally taking more land ever since.

User avatar
UNITED STATES OF ISLAMIC
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 140
Founded: Mar 09, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby UNITED STATES OF ISLAMIC » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

yes, genocide is allowed but do not like Israel who slaughter civilians sheltering in a UN school is a place of refuge original neutral

User avatar
Viritica
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7790
Founded: Nov 25, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Viritica » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Viritica wrote:I believe they both have claim to the land, which is why I'm a supporter of the two-state solution.

I don't consider either claim to be greater than the other at this point.

I also support two states but the two states would be a larger palestine and smaller israel

That's... Gonna cause a shitload of unnecessary tension.

Just leave the two states at their current size.
Empire of Viritica (PMT) · Factbook (Incomplete)
Hamas started this after all
NSG's Resident KKKoch Rethuglican Shill
Watch Mark Levin shred Jon Stewart
The Jewish Reich is upon us

Conservative Atheist, Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT rights, Pro-Israel, Zionist, Anti-UN

User avatar
Rio de Fuego
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1454
Founded: Jan 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rio de Fuego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:15 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Only against the Neanderthals*

*define genocide

Attempted genocide is still just as bad
Get out Nazi punks

User avatar
Great Zionist Israel
Attaché
 
Posts: 76
Founded: Jul 29, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Zionist Israel » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:15 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

:roll:
No it's not.

:palm:

Prove it.
The Philistines should be removed from Israel and placed in Jordan.

User avatar
Geilinor
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41328
Founded: Feb 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Geilinor » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:15 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
District XIV wrote:Prove it.

Without the Bible, please.

And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

How so? If the Bible is a valid source, so is every religious text.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

User avatar
Rio de Fuego
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1454
Founded: Jan 25, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rio de Fuego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Viritica wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:I also support two states but the two states would be a larger palestine and smaller israel

That's... Gonna cause a shitload of unnecessary tension.

Just leave the two states at their current size.

It makes sense their are more Palestinians and their claim isn't founded in a book they like
Get out Nazi punks

User avatar
Planita
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1767
Founded: May 01, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Planita » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :roll:
No it's not.

:palm:

Prove it.

You buddy need serious help

User avatar
Great Zionist Israel
Attaché
 
Posts: 76
Founded: Jul 29, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Zionist Israel » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

District XIV wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

No, it's really not when it comes to territorial disputes.

Try again.

Yes, it is, because it is the Word of God.
The Philistines should be removed from Israel and placed in Jordan.

User avatar
Persian Soviet Republics
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jul 24, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Persian Soviet Republics » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
District XIV wrote:Prove it.

Without the Bible, please.

Becuase the Jews are the Chosen People of God. And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.


The 'Holy' Bible is a valid source? Bitch the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a valid source.

Listen, if you want to be technical, Jews aren't some 'chosen people,' they were the chosen nation to one day birth a Messiah, promised in the covenant with Abraham. That DOES NOT mean they are better than anyone else.

Say no to racism

User avatar
MERIZoC
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23694
Founded: Dec 05, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :roll:
No it's not.

:palm:

Prove it.

I don't have to prove a negative.
Planita wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :roll:
No it's not.

Your emoji is understating it. It should be: :palm:

Hmmm. Maybe this: :blink: :eyebrow: :rofl: :palm: :roll:

Much better.

User avatar
Saruhan
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8013
Founded: Feb 15, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Saruhan » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Viritica wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:I get that, but when those to claims are the exact same tract of land who's claim is greater. Those who lived there for centuries or those who lived there a millennium ago

I believe they both have claim to the land, which is why I'm a supporter of the two-state solution.

I don't consider either claim to be greater than the other at this point.

Israel doesn't really have a right to exist, because the only way they possible could exist as a Jewish state is through some form of oppression. The return of Palestinians to their rightful homes would be enough to tip it around 35-65 in favour of Islam and Christianity, and compounded with the higher birthrates, means that there would be an Israel, but it would be near identical to Palestine
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.

User avatar
Margno
Minister
 
Posts: 2357
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Margno » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

United States of The One Percent wrote:Either:

1. You're fucking kidding, or

2. You're the author of the post that was deleted and are trying to replay it here. In which case, and at considerable risk of invoking Godwin's Law, read the following, then take a damn close look at yourself.

The sad reality is that Gernay gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the German state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there's going to have to come a time where Germany feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings - because this is life or death.

Most of the reports coming from Jewish officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it's not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them...They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you - you take him seriously.

The Jews have stated forthrightly that they idealize death as much as Germany celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?

...If you'll counter, that Jews have been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to German warnings to leave - well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.

Everyone agrees that Germany has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right...It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.

One case in which I think godwinning was an entirely appropriate thing to do.
Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.
We have nothing to lose but the world. We have our souls to gain.
You!
Me.
Nothing you can possibly do can make God love you any more or any less.

User avatar
Kumuri
Diplomat
 
Posts: 845
Founded: Mar 22, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Kumuri » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote: And of course the Holy Bible is a valid source.

How so? If the Bible is a valid source, so is every religious text.

May I claim the Holy Manuscript of Kumuri as a valid source, then?
Llywelyn is love, Llywelyn is life.
Last edited by Kumuri on Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
╔═════════════════════════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═════════════════════════════════════╗
dead
╚═════════════════════════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═════════════════════════════════════╝

User avatar
The Republic of Merrimont
Diplomat
 
Posts: 590
Founded: Mar 18, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Merrimont » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm

I think the op needs to read some unbiased isreali history books...
░░░░░░░░░▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄
░░░░░░░░▌▒█░░░░░░░░░░░▄▀▒▌
░░░░░░░░▌▒▒█░░░░░░░░▄▀▒▒▒▐
░░░░░░░▐▄▀▒▒▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▀▒▒▒▒▒▐
░░░░░▄▄▀▒░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒▒▄█▒▐
░░░▄▀▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀██▀▒▌
░░▐▒▒▒▄▄▒▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▄▒▒▌
░░▌░░▌█▀▒▒▒▒▒▄▀█▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒▐
░▐░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▌██▀▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀▄▌
░▌░▒▄██▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░░░░░░▒▒▒▒▌
▌▒▀▐▄█▄█▌▄░▀▒▒░░░░░░░░░░▒▒▒▐
▐▒▒▐▀▐▀▒░▄▄▒▄▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▒▒▒▌
▐▒▒▒▀▀▄▄▒▒▒▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▒▐
░▌▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▀▀▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒░▒▒▒▌
░▐▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▒▄▒▒▐
░░▀▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▄▒▒▒▒▌
░░░░▀▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▄▄▄▀▒▒▒▒▄▀
░░░░░░▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀▀▒▒▒▒▒▄▄▀
░░░░░░░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▀
The Serbian Empire wrote:You wot m8 with Iggy Azalea?

Czechanada wrote:Also, having strong fingers impresses the girls. ;)

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Atrito, Camtropia, Ifreann, Infected Mushroom, Jetan, Repreteop, Singaporen Empire, The Xenopolis Confederation, Tungstan, Yasuragi

Advertisement

Remove ads