Is genocide ever justified?

by **Great Zionist Israel** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.

by **MERIZoC** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Merizoc wrote:...Because it's pretty much the most horrible act that can be committed? That good enough for you?

No, the most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of the Jewish people. We are talking about potential genocide of philistines, not jews, here.

Of course genocide should be avoided at all costs but if it is needed as a last resort to restore peace and normality to the Jews of Israel, so be it. Population relocation is still preferable to genocide though.

Oh, fuck that bullshit. No race is better than any other.

by **Rio de Fuego** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Upper America wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:You don't know the half of Israeli brainwashing, ever heard of Hasbarrah?

Nope, never heard of it. Really, I thought Israel would be better than that.

Look it up, it's some police state shit

by **Upper America** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Palestinians have the right to self defence.

Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Hamas is only in any sort of popularity because they're the only ones who will stand up to Israeli agression

Rightful "aggression" which they have no right to "stand up" against.

I think I face palmed so hard I'll need to have a facial reconstruction. You don't know jack shit about your own land, do you?

by **Saruhan** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Palestinians have the right to self defence.

Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Ah, Jewish chauvinism. How I wish it had been broken in the ground in 1948

by **Great Zionist Israel** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Rightful "aggression" which they have no right to "stand up" against.

Ok so when you are removed from your home, transported to a tiny piece of land and then shot at you wont stand up

My home is not in illegal land is it?

by **Organized States** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm

Who the hell voted yes?

by **Margno** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Margno wrote:Democracy means that more than fifty percent of the general population voted for them. It does not mean that any given Palestinian is a Hamas supporter.

It means that the majority are, though.

I've just made up a group consisting of you and two serial killers. Most members of the group are serial killers. Therefore it's justified for me to arrest any of you.

by **Rio de Fuego** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.

So according to your logic since a bad group exists in a country that has done no harm, all people of that group should be killed

by **MERIZoC** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Palestinians have the right to self defence.

Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Hamas is only in any sort of popularity because they're the only ones who will stand up to Israeli agression

Rightful "aggression" which they have no right to "stand up" against.

Under German law, the Jews were illegally occupying German land.

by **Viritica** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

The Sanguinian Islands wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:No, the most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of the Jewish people. We are talking about potential genocide of [ur;=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filastin]philistines[/url], not jews, here.

Of course genocide should be avoided at all costs but if it is needed as a last resort to restore peace and normality to the Jews of Israel, so be it. Population relocation is still preferable to genocide though.

This is why I feel bad to be jewish on my mom's side

Don't feel bad.

This guy doesn't represent all Jews or Zionists.

I'm a Jew (on my dad's side) and a Zionist and I consider genocide to be fucking deplorable.

by **Geilinor** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Palestinians have the right to self defence.

Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Hamas is only in any sort of popularity because they're the only ones who will stand up to Israeli agression

Rightful "aggression" which they have no right to "stand up" against.

Jewish land doesn't exist. There's Israeli land and there's Palestinian land.

by **Cu Math** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Palestinians have the right to self defence.

Not while they are illegally occupying Jewish land, no they don't.

Hamas is only in any sort of popularity because they're the only ones who will stand up to Israeli agression

Rightful "aggression" which they have no right to "stand up" against.

They were there first! Seriously, genetics says that Palestinians have lived there for centuries!

by **The Serbian Empire** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Maybe, as in killing all the Wahhabists would be a net positive for the world as it removes a lot of fundamentalism in Islam and eliminates a large chunk of terrorists. But the consequences would be harsh enough that one would pretty much think of it as they have to be committing some genocide to justify genociding Wahhabists.

by **Wisconsin9** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Merizoc wrote:...Because it's pretty much the most horrible act that can be committed? That good enough for you?

No, the most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of the Jewish people.

The most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of anyone.

by **Viritica** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:04 pm

Organized States wrote:Who the hell voted yes?

OP.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

You do know that line can be turned around. Israel could be invading Palestinian land, for all intents and purposes. Neither side is justified in their methods. Both nations have a right to exist and a right to their land.

I'm aware this is probably an unpopular view, but there you have it.

by **Parhe** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.

Again, when people ask you never expand on this point. So, again, how are they illegally occupying land that are "rightfully" Israel's?

by **Great Zionist Israel** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:No, the most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of the Jewish people.

The most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of anyone.

No, the wiping out of Hamas is commendable.

by **Rio de Fuego** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Rio de Fuego wrote:Ok so when you are removed from your home, transported to a tiny piece of land and then shot at you wont stand up

My home is not in illegal land is it?

If it's in Israel than yes it is, regardless of any biblical claim to the land the Arabs have lived their for years now and it is their territory

by **Great Zionist Israel** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Rio de Fuego wrote:
Great Zionist Israel wrote:My home is not in illegal land is it?

If it's in Israel than yes it is, regardless of any biblical claim to the land the Arabs have lived their for years now and it is their territory

No, it's not, as demonstrated by the existence of Israel.

by **Planita** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Jesus, you Jews want a "pure" homeland so bad, you are willing to KILL people to achieve that? No offense bu that reminds me of the Nazis.

by **Rabotnikisoyedinennyye** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:05 pm

Merizoc wrote:No. /thread.

My opinion is law. /thread

by **Wisconsin9** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:06 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:The most horrible act that can be committed is the wiping out of anyone.

No, the wiping out of Hamas is commendable.

The only people who deserve to be wiped out are the ones in the process of wiping people out, no matter which side of the border they're on.

by **Upper America** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:06 pm

Great Zionist Israel wrote:My point is that the elimination of Hamas should take priority over the welfare of the "Palestinians" for Israel, considering that the Palestinians are illegally occupying land which actually belongs to Israel. If the elimination of Hamas necessitates harming the welfare of "Palestinians", so be it.

Now I think I have permanent brain damage from facepalming so hard. LEARN ABOUT YOUR HOMELAND, PLEASE! It'll really help you in the long-run. Now if you don't live in Israel, I'd understand. I'd still be ashamed of you, but I'd understand.

And, no, that land should really belong to everyone. The Muslims, Jews, and Christians all have their holy city there. One religion shouldn't control it.