Is genocide ever justified?

[The Sanguinian Islands]

Ah yes. Never forget.

sarcasm is anti semetic

you should take ritalin and go to sensitivity classes taught by a jew

[Cu Math]

No. Genocide should never be an option. You're killing hundreds of unarmed, innocent people who want nothing to do with whatever is going on. Whether it be like Hitler's Holocaust, Stalin's mass starvations, Pol Pot's forced labor, or just plain marching into a city and shooting anything that moves, it should never happen, and anyone found guilty of it punished severely.

That's not true, these so called "innocent people" 1) elected HAMAS and 2) shield Hamas rocket weapons in their homes.

The fact that they are illegally occupying rightful Israeli land also prevents them from being innocent.

Genocide is based on nationality/race. It's total and utter.
I'm palestinian, I live in Boston, and never have touched a rocket in my life. Under your support for genocide, I'm as guilty as Hamas just for having the same genotype.
That's what genocide is.

[Eastern Equestria]

Is genocide ever justified?

[Stormhound]

But, it's now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war - because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

Change a few names around and these could easily be the words of a member of the Wehrmacht or maybe a German propagandist about the Eastern Front in regards to the violation of the Genevieve Convention concerning Soviet soldiers.

[Margno]

No. Genocide should never be an option. You're killing hundreds of unarmed, innocent people who want nothing to do with whatever is going on. Whether it be like Hitler's Holocaust, Stalin's mass starvations, Pol Pot's forced labor, or just plain marching into a city and shooting anything that moves, it should never happen, and anyone found guilty of it punished severely.

That's not true, these so called "innocent people" 1) elected HAMAS and 2) shield Hamas rocket weapons in their homes.

The fact that they are illegally occupying rightful Israeli land also prevents them from being innocent.

Their country elected Hamas. That doesn't mean they ever personally supported them.

[Empire of Narnia]

The irony level is over 9000.

[Nickel Empire]

It's never justified.

[Saruhan]

Oy vey.

Damn bloggers.

Not just bloggers, Israeli generals are getting in on the action:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4554583,00.html

[Persian Soviet Republics]

No. Genocide should never be an option. You're killing hundreds of unarmed, innocent people who want nothing to do with whatever is going on. Whether it be like Hitler's Holocaust, Stalin's mass starvations, Pol Pot's forced labor, or just plain marching into a city and shooting anything that moves, it should never happen, and anyone found guilty of it punished severely.

Stalin never had any 'mass starvations' that is just stupid. Nobody deliberately causes a famine. Why would he do that, it would completely cripple the infrastructure of the USSR! And would not benefit him in any way whatsoever. Here is what REALLY happened:

There was a drought in the Ukraine, and there was a crop shortage, so the Kulaks (Land Lords) began hoarding the grain and raising the prices so they could get rich off of the people's suffering which prevented people in the cities from getting fed. This caused MASS starvation. It is because of this that the Soviet government stepped in and kicked the Kulaks off the farm and replaced them with people who actually wanted to work, and began producing grain for the people in the cities.

People that claim Stalin some how starved 50 million people to death or whatever for some reason do not seem to understand that people need to eat, and there was mass starvation. What should he have done, let the people in the cities starve to death while the Kulaks were getting rich off of it? I think not.

Even if these claims were true, it still wouldn't be a genocide. A genocide is the killing of a group of people based on their race, ethnicity, nationality, or religion.

[Rio de Fuego]

You think it raised some good points? what on Earth is wrong with you? Israel has violated every ceasefire attempt so far, specifically targeted hospitals,schools,children,and religious sites. It has refused to recognize Palestine sovereignty or even their right to exist. How ANYONE could support Israel through this is beyond me.

I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

You see but they aren't, and so what if they're called Philistines whats in a name? If anything Israel is illegally occupying palestine, they are a little thing called settlemenys

[Threlizdun]

Fuck no. You should be disgusted with yourself for even having to ask this. Any society that necessitates genocide to survive doesn't deserve to exist.

[Viritica]

No. /thread.

No, it's never justified.

Nope. Genocide isn't justified, ever.

Why not?

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

[Great Zionist Israel]

That's not true, these so called "innocent people" 1) elected HAMAS and 2) shield Hamas rocket weapons in their homes.

The fact that they are illegally occupying rightful Israeli land also prevents them from being innocent.

Their country elected Hamas. That doesn't mean they ever personally supported them.

Do you not understand how democracy works?

[Parhe]

Well, the Nazi's originally tried to deport the Jews but after other countries denied the migrants the one(s) in charge decided instead to genocide them. No, genocide is for not justified.

[Upper America]

You think it raised some good points? what on Earth is wrong with you? Israel has violated every ceasefire attempt so far, specifically targeted hospitals,schools,children,and religious sites. It has refused to recognize Palestine sovereignty or even their right to exist. How ANYONE could support Israel through this is beyond me.

I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

What kind of twisted stuff are you being fed? Great Britain and the USA put the Jews on that land after the holocaust. The Palestinians got mad, and so did the rest of the Arab world. I didn't know Israel had some kind of North Korea-esque propaganda machine, I thought they were better than that. Whatever you're being told, it's not correct.

[Great Zionist Israel]

Why not?

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

Why is genocide never justified? Yes, genocide should be avoided whenever possible but why is it some sacred cow that must never be touched?

[Rio de Fuego]

Their country elected Hamas. That doesn't mean they ever personally supported them.

Do you not understand how democracy works?

Let me explain it to you Hamas isn't elected they are terrorist militants, the Palestinian Authority is elected. Hamas can no more be elected than the taliban

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You think it raised some good points? what on Earth is wrong with you? Israel has violated every ceasefire attempt so far, specifically targeted hospitals,schools,children,and religious sites. It has refused to recognize Palestine sovereignty or even their right to exist. How ANYONE could support Israel through this is beyond me.

I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

You do know that line can be turned around. Israel could be invading Palestinian land, for all intents and purposes. Neither side is justified in their methods. Both nations have a right to exist and a right to their land.

I'm aware this is probably an unpopular view, but there you have it.

[MERIZoC]

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

Why is genocide never justified? Yes, genocide should be avoided whenever possible but why is it some sacred cow that must never be touched?

...Because it's pretty much the most horrible act that can be committed? That good enough for you?

[Parhe]

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

Why is genocide never justified? Yes, genocide should be avoided whenever possible but why is it some sacred cow that must never be touched?

Because most people are against killing of innocent people and it is highly unlikely that every single member of a certain group defined usually by ethnicity or nation *is* guilty.

[Geilinor]

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

Why is genocide never justified? Yes, genocide should be avoided whenever possible but why is it some sacred cow that must never be touched?

The actions of individual political groups do not justify retribution against innocent civilians.

[Rio de Fuego]

I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

What kind of twisted stuff are you being fed? Great Britain and the USA put the Jews on that land after the holocaust. The Palestinians got mad, and so did the rest of the Arab world. I didn't know Israel had some kind of North Korea-esque propaganda machine, I thought they were better than that. Whatever you're being told, it's not correct.

You don't know the half of Israeli brainwashing, ever heard of Hasbarrah?

[The Sanguinian Islands]

I support Israel because the so called "Palestinians" (keep in mind that they call themselves Philistines in their own language) are illegally occupying Israeli land and using it as a base from which to attack millions of innocent Israelis.

What kind of twisted stuff are you being fed? Great Britain and the USA put the Jews on that land after the holocaust. The Palestinians got mad, and so did the rest of the Arab world. I didn't know Israel had some kind of North Korea-esque propaganda machine, I thought they were better than that. Whatever you're being told, it's not correct.

There is a group called JIDF that gets paid by the Israeli government to spread propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Int ... ense_Force

[Viritica]

What the fuck do you mean "why not"?

Why is genocide never justified? Yes, genocide should be avoided whenever possible but why is it some sacred cow that must never be touched?

Do you know what the actual definition of genocide is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group via the (a) Killing of members of the group; (b) Causing of serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberate inflicting on the group's conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing of measures intended to prevent births within the group; or (e) Forcible transferring of children of the group to another group. Genocide entails also the Conspiracy to commit genocide; Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; Attempt to commit genocide; and Complicity in genocide.

Read this shit, and then get back to me.

[Planita]

Hell No