Worst U.S President Ever

[Blazedtown]

I think that blames a little more heavily on the backs of a bunch of slave owning incestuous aristocratic traitors in the South rather than one of our Greatest presidents.

My vote goes for Carter.

Uh, no. You clearly don't know what treason is, and are ignorant of the fact that waging a Civil War was completely unnecessary and unconstitutional. And you've bought into a completely asinine stereotype to belittle an entire group of people with no facts to back you up.

Nice job.

Succession and firing on the US military is pretty much the textbook definition of treason.

[MERIZoC]

Jackson. Because forced relocation falls under the definition of genocide.

Short of Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson was the most baddass motherfucker to ever hold office.

You heard it here, ladies and gentlemen. Blazedtown supports genocide.

[Blazedtown]

Short of Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson was the most baddass motherfucker to ever hold office.

You heard it here, ladies and gentlemen. Blazedtown supports genocide.

Meh.

[Sheltopolis]

My vote goes to Lincoln for:

Suppressing Press Freedom
Arresting Journalists
Suspending Habeas Corpus
Forcing Conscription
Starting Civil War.

Did Lincoln fire on Fort Sumter?

No, but he did wage an unconstitutional war.

[Need a Name]

My vote goes to Lincoln for:

Suppressing Press Freedom
Arresting Journalists
Suspending Habeas Corpus
Forcing Conscription
Starting Civil War.

He also kept the Union together and abolished slavery.

He was going for the whole make everyone equal thing, but he got shot.

[MERIZoC]

Did Lincoln fire on Fort Sumter?

No, but he did wage an unconstitutional war.

While some of Lincoln's actions during the war were pretty bad, the war itself was definitely justified, and, in all fairness, not even started by the North.

[South Pacific Republic]

John Adams had the Alien and Sedition Acts made into law

[Saint Kitten]

President Harrison. Bastard didn't do a damn thing while in office

[Sheltopolis]

Uh, no. You clearly don't know what treason is, and are ignorant of the fact that waging a Civil War was completely unnecessary and unconstitutional. And you've bought into a completely asinine stereotype to belittle an entire group of people with no facts to back you up.

Nice job.

Succession and firing on the US military is pretty much the textbook definition of treason.

trea·son
noun
the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
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I am 110% certain the whole purpose of the confederacy was to secede away from the Union, not overthrow the government.

[Persivis]

I think that blames a little more heavily on the backs of a bunch of slave owning incestuous aristocratic traitors in the South rather than one of our Greatest presidents.

My vote goes for Carter.

Uh, no. You clearly don't know what treason is, and are ignorant of the fact that waging a Civil War was completely unnecessary and unconstitutional. And you've bought into a completely asinine stereotype to belittle an entire group of people with no facts to back you up.

Nice job.

Waging a civil war was unnecessary and unconstitutional?

The South started the war! They even fired first!

[Blazedtown]

Did Lincoln fire on Fort Sumter?

No, but he did wage an unconstitutional war.

He did what was necessary to end the open, armed rebellion of slave owners. He made the right call. He didn't start it, the South did, saying otherwise is blatantly false. They fired on Federal troops. What was he suppose to do, throw up his arms and say fine, you take half the country and keep owning people?

[Lalaki]

My vote goes to Lincoln for:

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Starting Civil War.

Which led to the abolition of slavery.

Whether or not the purpose of the Civil War was for states' rights or federalism, the Union victory forced the end of slavery, which is objectively a good thing. Even if slavery "naturally withered" away over time, it would have taken decades, with more generations of Americans being held captive.

Again, I am not saying Lincoln fought the war to free the slaves, but his success led to abolition nonetheless. I cannot support the CSA due to its support of slavery. This isn't about states' rights, this is about the doctrine of the people trying to secede. Therefore, I support the Union.

[South Pacific Republic]

No, but he did wage an unconstitutional war.

While some of Lincoln's actions during the war were pretty bad, the war itself was definitely justified, and, in all fairness, not even started by the North.

The South started the Civil War by firing on Fort Sumter

[Persivis]

Succession and firing on the US military is pretty much the textbook definition of treason.

trea·son
noun
the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
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I am 110% certain the whole purpose of the confederacy was to secede away from the Union, not overthrow the government.

They overthrew the power of the federal government.

No matter what you say, it was treason.

[Herrebrugh]

Clearly Sjaak Venemans. I mean, he never even became president. Jeesh.

[Sheltopolis]

My vote goes to Lincoln for:

Suppressing Press Freedom
Arresting Journalists
Suspending Habeas Corpus
Forcing Conscription
Starting Civil War.

He also kept the Union together and abolished slavery.

He was going for the whole make everyone equal thing, but he got shot.

Lincoln was hardly concerned for black rights.

[Lalaki]

John Adams had the Alien and Sedition Acts made into law

Many...many Presidents have done worse things.

Adams is better than most people give him credit for, in my opinion.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Said it dozens of times already - enough with the 'worst of' threads.