The Mod-Sanctioned Scottish Referendum Megathread

[The Nihilistic view]

It's a simple statement of fact. Not an argument either way.

The ft seems to think we can leave and do rather well.

As I have already said a few pages back I think you would be alright. But I'm not sure what that has to do with me saying above that most regions of the UK have a strong dislike of the Westminster elite.

[Glasgia]

If it's worth anything in a debate about Scotland, about five thousand Scots are currently out-singing an entire stadium full of Germans

EDIT: Fuck.

[The Nihilistic view]

You were saying.

[Glasgia]

You were saying.

We're still largely out-singing them, they just have a small (read: one goal) advantage :/

EDIT: If we're still on the topic, does anyone have a decent live-stream? My current one's decent, it just cuts out every five minutes and I have to reload it...

[The Nihilistic view]

No idea, I don't even watch England matches.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Most regions have quite a lot of hate of Westminster politics. Scotland is definitely not alone.

Independence for Bradford! Vote Galloway, 2015!

You joke but where will this lead? Independence for the Shetlands, because only they have a real claim to the oil, independence for London as a city state, London has all the money, ect. Personally, I don't like British nationalism, (NO side) nor Scottish nationalism, (yes) or any nationalism, eg, Ukrainian or Russian. And both nationalism's are pro-Nato, pro-Monarchy, ect.

[Glasgia]

No idea, I don't even watch England matches.

Philistine :/

[Glasgia]

You were saying.

And you were saying?

[The Nihilistic view]

No idea, I don't even watch England matches.

Philistine :/

Better get myself off down to Bradford.............

Anyway it's mainly because they are a massive boring passionless bunch of bell shands. Did I mention how boring they are to watch?

[The Nihilistic view]

You were saying.

And you were saying?

What were you saying...........

[Frazers]

Looking forward to a good parade next week. Haven't been over to Scotland for a while but sounds like its going to be great

[Alyakia]

Looking forward to a good parade next week. Haven't been over to Scotland for a while but sounds like its going to be great

your flag is gone btw so you should probably specify what you mean for the uninitiated

[Frazers]

Looking forward to a good parade next week. Haven't been over to Scotland for a while but sounds like its going to be great

your flag is gone btw so you should probably specify what you mean for the uninitiated

THE parade

[Glasgia]

And you were saying?

What were you saying...........

I'll take 2-1 against Germany, better than I'll take a loss against the Swiss - Oh wait, that hasn't happened... Yet.

Philistine :/

Better get myself off down to Bradford.............

Anyway it's mainly because they are a massive boring passionless bunch of bell shands. Did I mention how boring they are to watch?

Don't worry, I know. I watched the Norway match purely so I wasn't stranded when my mates would inevitably bring it up. Aside from a local lad getting his debut, which I'll allow the internet paedophiles to keep guessing at, then they were actually quite keen to avoid talking about that performance.

your flag is gone btw so you should probably specify what you mean for the uninitiated

THE parade

THAT parade -_-

As Frazers has missed his chance to spew propaganda as he usually would, to the point that his relative silence actually slightly unnerves me, I'll do the job of informing the uninitiated. At various times in the year, during what they like to call the "marching season", the Protestant "Orange Order" conduct a number of parades in order to celebrate the "Glorious" Revolution in which Parliament (Westminster Parliament) invited the Protestant William of Orange to the English (and later the Scottish) throne in order to "save" it from a Catholic monarch. These parades are often triumphalist and intentionally march through Catholic areas in Northern Ireland, as a method of antagonising locals - Refusing the negotiate with resident's groups due to a stated policy of paranoia, believing all such groups are dominated by Sinn Féin. They commemorate those who died in the suppression of Catholicism and as part of Loyalist paramilitaries during the Troubles while gloating of Protestantism's victory in the UK.

The particular march I believe Frazers is set to take part in is an anti-independence march in Edinburgh. There is not usually any major marches at this part of the year, being out of their "marching season", yet the Orange Order have specially planned this event five days before the referendum. Often, the aggressive and divisive nature of these marches leads to violence and as such it is reasonable to believe that the Orange Order wishes to provoke this from Scottish Republicans and Catholics in order to harm the Yes campaign whom both demographics are associated with.

[Frazers]

I don't believe I've ever spewed propaganda Mr Pot

[Saint-Thor]

Independence for Bradford! Vote Galloway, 2015!

You joke but where will this lead? Independence for the Shetlands, because only they have a real claim to the oil, independence for London as a city state, London has all the money, ect. Personally, I don't like British nationalism, (NO side) nor Scottish nationalism, (yes) or any nationalism, eg, Ukrainian or Russian. And both nationalism's are pro-Nato, pro-Monarchy, ect.

Is it the nationalism or the word itself that you don't like? Because no nationalism in this world is identical. A lot of nationalism are opposed to imperialism.

[Machtergreifung]

What were you saying...........

I'll take 2-1 against Germany, better than I'll take a loss against the Swiss - Oh wait, that hasn't happened... Yet.

Better get myself off down to Bradford.............

Anyway it's mainly because they are a massive boring passionless bunch of bell shands. Did I mention how boring they are to watch?

Don't worry, I know. I watched the Norway match purely so I wasn't stranded when my mates would inevitably bring it up. Aside from a local lad getting his debut, which I'll allow the internet paedophiles to keep guessing at, then they were actually quite keen to avoid talking about that performance.

THE parade

THAT parade -_-

As Frazers has missed his chance to spew propaganda as he usually would, to the point that his relative silence actually slightly unnerves me, I'll do the job of informing the uninitiated. At various times in the year, during what they like to call the "marching season", the Protestant "Orange Order" conduct a number of parades in order to celebrate the "Glorious" Revolution in which Parliament (Westminster Parliament) invited the Protestant William of Orange to the English (and later the Scottish) throne in order to "save" it from a Catholic monarch. These parades are often triumphalist and intentionally march through Catholic areas in Northern Ireland, as a method of antagonising locals - Refusing the negotiate with resident's groups due to a stated policy of paranoia, believing all such groups are dominated by Sinn Féin. They commemorate those who died in the suppression of Catholicism and as part of Loyalist paramilitaries during the Troubles while gloating of Protestantism's victory in the UK.

The particular march I believe Frazers is set to take part in is an anti-independence march in Edinburgh. There is not usually any major marches at this part of the year, being out of their "marching season", yet the Orange Order have specially planned this event five days before the referendum. Often, the aggressive and divisive nature of these marches leads to violence and as such it is reasonable to believe that the Orange Order wishes to provoke this from Scottish Republicans and Catholics in order to harm the Yes campaign whom both demographics are associated with.

To back that up, here's a link - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-28440218

The part that was interesting to read:

A spokesman for Better Together, which is the official campaign against Scottish independence, attempted to distance itself from the Orange Order.

He said: "This organisation is not part of our campaign and never will be."

[Kingdoms of Cal]

To back that up, here's a link - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-28440218

The part that was interesting to read:

A spokesman for Better Together, which is the official campaign against Scottish independence, attempted to distance itself from the Orange Order.

He said: "This organisation is not part of our campaign and never will be."

Can you really blame the no campaign for distancing them selves from these "colourful individuals". The yes movement has it share of nutters like any movement, but the no movement has entire organisation that are toxic. Such as britiania (a splinter movement of the bnp), SDL, the BNP it self these make the orange order look positively benign is it no wonder the no campaign are desprit that these people don't March or campaign openly for no.

[Pola]

I hate Scotland,
it's to wet, windy and cold overthere.
Long live an independent England!

[Kingdoms of Cal]

I hate Scotland,
it's to wet, windy and cold overthere.
Long live an independent England!

Note:England is not exactly a tropical paradise.

[Benian Republic]

Why does Britain wanna keep Scotland is it to keep their controlled areas or for tax revenue

[Jinwoy]

Why does Britain wanna keep Scotland is it to keep their controlled areas or for tax revenue

If the British government wanted to keep Scotland, it wouldn't hold a referendum now, would it.

[The Nihilistic view]

I hate Scotland,
it's to wet, windy and cold overthere.
Long live an independent England!

Note:England is not exactly a tropical paradise.

Devon is, there are palms and ferns and a bit of sun!

[The Nihilistic view]

Why does Britain wanna keep Scotland is it to keep their controlled areas or for tax revenue

Scotland is Britain. It's not a possession, it's a constituent part.

[Alyakia]

Why does Britain wanna keep Scotland is it to keep their controlled areas or for tax revenue

If the British government wanted to keep Scotland, it wouldn't hold a referendum now, would it.

if the british government didn't want to keep scotland, it wouldn't be campaigning for staying in the union, would it?