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What's your reaction to the referendum result?

Resident of Scotland - pleased with result
18
4%
Resident of Scotland - disappointed with result
22
5%
Resident of rUK - pleased with result
88
21%
Resident of rUK - disappointed with result
18
4%
Not a UK resident - pleased with result
164
38%
Not a UK resident - disappointed with result
119
28%
 
Total votes : 429

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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:11 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:My former Fife stomping grounds are declaring....

And convincingly declaring No.

Which means that No has now officially reached the winning line across Scotland as a whole; Moray and the Highlands can't change the result.


And they're hardly like to vote YES anyway.

So, yeah....it's official. NO wins, with about 55% of the vote.

I recommend a certain graciousness to the supporters of both sides of the vote, especially after a campaign so fraught with negativity.
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Postby Marcurix » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:11 pm

There we go.
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

Wikipedia wrote:Scotland votes against secession from the United Kingdom.

Wikipedia has even declared the result.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Who won? Anybody yet?

The empire, long united, must divide... unless it's the UK. The dynastic cycle gives them a free pass... for now. :P
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Postby Mereon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:My former Fife stomping grounds are declaring....

And convincingly declaring No.

Which means that No has now officially reached the winning line across Scotland as a whole; Moray and the Highlands can't change the result.


And they're hardly like to vote YES anyway.

So, yeah....it's official. NO wins, with about 55% of the vote.

I recommend a certain graciousness to the supporters of both sides of the vote, especially after a campaign so fraught with negativity.

I would have cried if they voted yes.
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Postby New Laikland » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

Voltrovia wrote:It's a No victory!

If you didn't already get the idea.



Soon

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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

SuperFruitLand wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Who won? Anybody yet?



the referendum has failed

"No" won the referendum


The referendum succeeded - the will of the people was (rather convincingly, at ~55% of the vote) put forth.
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Postby Kaztropol » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:12 pm

SuperFruitLand wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Who won? Anybody yet?



the referendum has failed

"No" won the referendum



Can a referendum ever actually fail, in an objective sense ?

Or is it rather, that one side failed to get the result they wanted, which is subjective ?

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Postby The balkens » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Who won? Anybody yet?

The empire, long united, must divide... unless it's the UK. The dynastic cycle gives them a free pass... for now. :P


Ach, i'm sure the UK will still be around in 500 years.

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Postby Utceforp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Who won? Anybody yet?

The empire, long united, must divide... unless it's the UK. The dynastic cycle gives them a free pass... for now. :P

Because the UK is still an empire. *nods*.
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Postby Deutsch-Brittannia » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

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Well there's plans to give Manchester (my city) greater autonomy since it has a larger economy than Wales and Northern Ireland. They damn well better or us 'barbarians' from Northern England will secede!


If any city is first in line for greater autonomy it's London, it has higher population and GDP then Scotland.

The time of the city states is returning :lol:


I meant outside London, that place is practically independent anyway :p

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Postby Jinwoy » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Voltrovia wrote:It's a No victory!

If you didn't already get the idea.



Soon


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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
Utceforp wrote:Seeing as Glasgow is the only majority Yes vote so far, I'd bet that we'll be seeing No votes from those areas as well.


Not the only one - Dundee City also voted yes (57%), as did West Dunbartonshire (54%) and North Lanarkshire (51%). Inverclyde voted 50% YES and 50% NO - or near enough.


Yes, but many of us will consider West Dunbartonshire, North Lanarkshire and Inverclyde (which did vote No, by however narrow a margin) as being part of greater Glasgow.

So while Utceforp missed Dundee, "Yes only won in Dundee and parts of greater Glasgow" would be a fair enough comment.

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Postby Roski » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Liriena wrote:The empire, long united, must divide... unless it's the UK. The dynastic cycle gives them a free pass... for now. :P

Because the UK is still an empire. *nods*.

It actually still has a fairly large amount of oversee territories.
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Postby El Fiji Grande » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

Wow. I had been sooooo worried that the Yes vote would win. So glad, so very glad that it has been defeated.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
And they're hardly like to vote YES anyway.

So, yeah....it's official. NO wins, with about 55% of the vote.

I recommend a certain graciousness to the supporters of both sides of the vote, especially after a campaign so fraught with negativity.

I would have cried if they voted yes.


Oh, that's fair enough - I certainly don't object to supporters of the losing side of the vote crying into their beers. A certain sorrow is natural.
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Postby Dumfries » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:14 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Doesn't matter, Fife pulled the plug.

Good. Now the term "Scottish Borders" will and should remain just the name of a council area, not a real thing.

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Postby Marcurix » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:14 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Voltrovia wrote:It's a No victory!

If you didn't already get the idea.



Soon


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Postby McNernia » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:14 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/councils/S12000020

Then it will be on highlands. Moray is expected to declare.
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Postby SuperFruitland » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:14 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Voltrovia wrote:It's a No victory!

If you didn't already get the idea.



Soon


Meh, there ain't gonna be another referendum for a long while, I believe.

Salmond lost his chance.

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Postby New Chalcedon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:14 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Not the only one - Dundee City also voted yes (57%), as did West Dunbartonshire (54%) and North Lanarkshire (51%). Inverclyde voted 50% YES and 50% NO - or near enough.


Yes, but many of us will consider West Dunbartonshire, North Lanarkshire and Inverclyde (which did vote No, by however narrow a margin) as being part of greater Glasgow.

So while Utceforp missed Dundee, "Yes only won in Dundee and parts of greater Glasgow" would be a fair enough comment.


Ah. Fair enough, then :)

Any particular idea why Glasgow was much more pro-indie than the rest of Scotland?
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:15 pm

Well that was anticlimactic.

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