The Mod-Sanctioned Scottish Referendum Megathread

[Alyakia]

is jeremy vine running his mouth while results come in again

e: "while jeremy was speaking" yep

[NERVUN]

The Constitution never outlawed secession or state changes, not once did it. SCOTUS ruled secession alone was unconstitutional. No where in the Constitution is this forbidden.

SCOTUS interprets the constitution. SCOTUS determined unilateral secession was illegal. Therefore, outside a congressional concession, secession is illegal.

Enough!

This isn't about Texas.

[McNernia]

Edinburgh votes "NO"

note the lack of all caps indicating my tiredness.

Huzzzah.

[The Archregimancy]

Didn't Scotland fight for its independence also? I'm sure they weren't serving tea at Culloden.

They did. Their leader was tied to four horses and split in half.

You've been watching too much Braveheart, haven't you?

Two points here for both Mereon and Ganos Lao:

1) Robert the Bruce was more important in the Wars of Independence than William Wallace since he actually succeeded.

2) Culloden wasn't the conclusion of a war of independence, but rather the conclusion of a war to attempt to place a Stuart on the British throne with primarily Scottish backing.

[SuperFruitland]

Aberdeenshire votes "NO"

[The Nihilistic view]

At this point I can say: I"m glad I'm Irish, and not Scottish. Atleast we fought for our independence, and won, then became one of the richest countries on earth. Something Scotland would be preparing to do right now, but sadly, our Celtic brothers are screwed once more.

Didn't Scotland fight for its independence also? I'm sure they weren't serving tea at Culloden.

Not really, the Jacobite rebellions were not about Scottish independence they were about regime change. The aim was put the Scottish House of Stuart back on the British throne.

[Mereon]

The Yes campaign is now completely and utterly beyond redemption.

[Pesda]

Ouch. The Western Islands really hurt, but at least we won Glasgow. Some sleep now maybe.

"We"?

I hate to break it to you, Pesda, but the Cumbric-speaking Kingdom of Strathclyde ran up the curtain and joined the choir invisible in the 11th century.

I knew news was slow to reach parts of Wales - I've had a drink in a Pembrokeshire pub in a valley that still claims to keep the Julian calendar - but you would have thought someone might have noticed the loss of the North over the last 950 years.

I would try make a witty reply, but I can honestly hardly type.
But congratulations to "you" the no supporters, and hugs to "we" the yes supporters. Night Arch, twas fun.

[Jinwoy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... P_(nominal) Ireland is 45-47th richest country on the planet.
For perspective, that's lower than Pakistan and Nigeria.

Total GDP is not how personal wealth is calculated.

Sorry, but when he said "one of the richest countries on Earth", I thought he meant literally one of the richest countries on Earth that pulls in moollah.

[The Archregimancy]

Aberdeenshire - which contains Alex Salmond's own constituency - voted No by slightly over 60%; no wonder he avoided his local count.

Edinburgh has likewise voted No by slightly over 60%.

[Kaztropol]

I'm sure they weren't serving tea at Culloden.

Culloden was the last battle between two armies fighting over who should be the monarch.

There were Scots and English on both sides. It wasn't "Scotland vs England" as it is sometimes portrayed.

[New Laikland]

In total GDP, maybe, but GDP per capita indicates quality of life.

Right you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... y_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Ireland: 17-18.
Scotland I think would come close to 60th on that list (16,944.00)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Scotland

GDP per capita
$45,904

U WOT

[Roski]

Aberdeenshire - which contains Alex Salmond's own constituency - voted No by slightly over 60%; no wonder he avoided his local count.

Edinburgh has likewise voted No by slightly over 60%.

Which means the United Kingdom stays UNITED.

[Jinwoy]

Right you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... y_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Ireland: 17-18.
Scotland I think would come close to 60th on that list (16,944.00)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Scotland

GDP per capita
$45,904

U WOT

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourcei ... 20scotland

[Arcov]

Already told Wisconsin. They consented by ratifying the Treaty, which was done through Congress.

Doesn't work like that. If you create a new state, you need to have the vote then, not 100+ years ago by a bunch of dead guys.

Like I said, if Texas wants to try that, it's going to be facing a steep uphill legal battle.

Nervun told us to stop, so let's.

[Ganos Lao]

They did. Their leader was tied to four horses and split in half.

You've been watching too much Braveheart, haven't you?

Two points here for both Mereon and Ganos Lao:

1) Robert the Bruce was more important in the Wars of Independence than William Wallace since he actually succeeded.

2) Culloden wasn't the conclusion of a war of independence, but rather the conclusion of a war to attempt to place a Stuart on the British throne with primarily Scottish backing.

I must've gotten my battles mixed up.

I meant to refer to earlier events. At any rate, it seems odd to posit that Scotland never tried to fight for their independence. Wasn't this whole referendum brought on by such a desire?

At any rate, looks like the wankers continue to rule Scotland. Poor Renton.

[SuperFruitland]

Well, if there was any doubt, it's done folks.

Fife, Highland, and Moray still left to declare.

"No" still (ONLY) needs ~90,000 votes.

[McNernia]

AGRYLL AND BUTE IS NO!

[Deutsch-Brittannia]

Excellent. Now Westminster can start giving the English regions and cities more autonomy.

[Allet Klar Chefs]

Excellent. Now Westminster can start giving the English regions and cities more autonomy.

Or not.

[New Laikland]

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourcei ... 20scotland

I saw that, that isn't right at all. Scotland's population is about 5 million, with $250 billion GDP, comes out to roughly $50,000. Wiki says Scotland's GDP/c is $45,000 ish, so that's correct.

[Liriena]

Aberdeenshire - which contains Alex Salmond's own constituency - voted No by slightly over 60%; no wonder he avoided his local count.

Edinburgh has likewise voted No by slightly over 60%.

Which means the United Kingdom stays UNITED.

At least until Wales decides to go all Greyjoy on the UK and pay the iron price for its own crown.

[SuperFruitland]

AGRYLL AND BUTE IS NO!

Eh...bit late...

[New Laikland]

AGRYLL AND BUTE IS NO!

Eh...bit late...

Did you hear the news?! Dundee just voted YES!

*puts down the newspaper*

It's definitely a Yes victory!

[Jinwoy]

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourcei ... 20scotland

I saw that, that isn't right at all. Scotland's population is about 5 million, with $250 billion GDP, comes out to roughly $50,000. Wiki says Scotland's GDP/c is $45,000 ish, so that's correct.

I beg my pardon.
So it'd come anywhere between 6th-12th?