The Mod-Sanctioned Scottish Referendum Megathread

[Briwen]

Not like it matters now, fact is Scotland is called Alba.

Fun fact: The term comes from Albion, which was another name for Britain used by the Romans. Even in linguistics, Britain is a unified country.

If you have read the previous posts, you would know that we allready discussed this. And the Island was called that way by the Greeks. It doesnt mean it was a unified country.

Native americans of Navajo call America Anahawk, and still it wasnt a united country, the continent itself is called AnaHawk. Same principle.

[Obeyistan]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Is he a socialist dictator bent on repression of freedom and dissidents? If not, then all you made was a provocative false analogy and you should feel bad.

[SD_Film Artists]

Not like it matters now, fact is Scotland is called Alba.

Fun fact: The term comes from Albion, which was another name for Britain used by the Romans. Even in linguistics, Britain is a unified country.

That's pretty much what I was getting at. The Romans would have seen the white cliffs of Dover, and the Welsh and English Celts may have spoken Latin under Roman occupation. Though I agree this is getting quite off-topic.

[The Nihilistic view]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Personally I prefer comparing him to Kirchner. There is much more of a likeness between the two.

[Ainin]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

So he'll make Scotland's supply of toilet paper disappear?

[Murkwood]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Salmond will oppress freedom of speech and create shortages of basic supplies in an oil-rich country through poorly thought out central planning?

[The Nihilistic view]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

So he'll make Scotland's supply of toilet paper disappear?

Well if he goes traditional it means the end of underwear. So for those not potty trained in a manner of speaking yes.

[Organized States]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Is he high? Scotland already runs the risk of being economically ruined if they move towards independence.

[Murkwood]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Is he high? Scotland already runs the risk of being economically ruined if they move towards independence.

Just like Venezuela.

[Organized States]

Is he high? Scotland already runs the risk of being economically ruined if they move towards independence.

Just like Venezuela.

Fair enough. Ahh, the similarities between an independent Scotland and today's VZ will be striking.

[Briwen]

Fun fact: The term comes from Albion, which was another name for Britain used by the Romans. Even in linguistics, Britain is a unified country.

That's pretty much what I was getting at. The Romans would have seen the white cliffs of Dover, and the Welsh and English Celts may have spoken Latin under Roman occupation. Though I agree this is getting quite off-topic.

Only that the term is older and Greek. And they saw the Alps and were like "Oh they are white"... omg lol (same goes for Britain of course), and nope the Welsh didnt speak latin, if they did they would be speaking latinized language (like france) by now, only some (Roman citizen) spoke latin.

anyway its too offtopic

[Wolfenium]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

“What are they going to do – invade?”

Is he really asking for it?

[The Nihilistic view]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

“What are they going to do – invade?”

Is he really asking for it?

Don't need to, we already have troops north of the wall.

[Wolfenium]

“What are they going to do – invade?”

Is he really asking for it?

Don't need to, we already have troops north of the wall.

By Jingo, we're going to do some hunting this day. *sips tea*

Seriously, I don't see a real game plan on Salmond's part on an independent Scotland, and too much on him banking on black gold and keeping most of the British institutions like the pound. And what'd he mean he won't pay back the debt? That's freeloading, and good grounds to cripple the 'yes' movement and his own international standing.

[Respawn]

Is he a socialist dictator bent on repression of freedom and dissidents? If not, then all you made was a provocative false analogy and you should feel bad.

It's something Hugo Chavez would have said. No need to get all hissy over a simple comparison.
This is like saying you can't compare Putin to Hitler because he isn't going around and exterminating Jews.

Personally I prefer comparing him to Kirchner. There is much more of a likeness between the two.

You're right. I can see the similarities too.
Fun Fact: most Falklanders are descended from Scottish immigrants, rather than English immigrants. I wonder whether he will start claiming the Falkland Islands for Scotland.

Seriously, I don't see a real game plan on Salmond's part on an independent Scotland, and too much on him banking on black gold and keeping most of the British institutions like the pound. And what'd he mean he won't pay back the debt? That's freeloading, and good grounds to cripple the 'yes' movement and his own international standing.

Pretty much. Banks will not lend to someone who will not honour their side of the agreement. It's like he wants Scotland to have a terrible credit rating.

[Obeyistan]

Is he a socialist dictator bent on repression of freedom and dissidents? If not, then all you made was a provocative false analogy and you should feel bad.

It's something Hugo Chavez would have said. No need to get all hissy over a simple comparison.
This is like saying you can't compare Putin to Hitler because he isn't going around and exterminating Jews.

And because he isn't going around exterminating any group and he's not totalitarian. Enough of a difference to you? Comparing Putin to Hitler is intellectually dishonest. Just because they have a lot of things alike, they also have a lot of things that aren't alike. Putin ain't Hitler.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11086121/Independent-Scotland-wont-pay-back-debt-Alex-Salmond-says.html

God bless Alex Salmond. He's Scotland's version of Hugo Chavez.

Is he high? Scotland already runs the risk of being economically ruined if they move towards independence.

Not necessarily. I believe Scotland can profit a lot financially from its diverse culture compared to the cultures around it.

[Imperializt Russia]

Yesterday's Guardian reported that "billions" have been wiped off the value of companies with even links to Scotland, in fear that Scotland may break away from the UK.

I somewhat figured this happened, and I reckon that in the event of a breakup, Scotland will be sort of sidelined as further afield, investors would just be drawn to "England" and London.

[Jinwoy]

Yesterday's Guardian reported that "billions" have been wiped off the value of companies with even links to Scotland, in fear that Scotland may break away from the UK.

I somewhat figured this happened, and I reckon that in the event of a breakup, Scotland will be sort of sidelined as further afield, investors would just be drawn to "England" and London.

If Scotland wants those investments, it should relax on things that might deter Investors (like high taxes) until it can compete with England.
In other words, Scotland, should it choose independence, cannot pursue a left-wing policy unless it likes the idea of being bankrupt.

Not to mention the laboratories, colleges, universities, hospitals, etc that will lose funding and thus set back scientific progress for humanity. It almost seems like no one wins if Scotland gets independence.

[Organized States]

Is he high? Scotland already runs the risk of being economically ruined if they move towards independence.

Not necessarily. I believe Scotland can profit a lot financially from its diverse culture compared to the cultures around it.

Cultural diversity isn't anything to build an profitable and sustainable economy that will be left with little to no control over their currency with a massive debt, and facing possible recession with the immediate stock market drop following a yes vote.

[Obeyistan]

Not necessarily. I believe Scotland can profit a lot financially from its diverse culture compared to the cultures around it.

Cultural diversity isn't anything to build an profitable and sustainable economy that will be left with little to no control over their currency with a massive debt, and facing possible recession with the immediate stock market drop following a yes vote.

Maybe that's part of the reason Salmond refuses to pay their part of the British national debt. Nevertheless, once they'll join the EU they'll be funded by it.

[Ainin]

Yesterday's Guardian reported that "billions" have been wiped off the value of companies with even links to Scotland, in fear that Scotland may break away from the UK.

I somewhat figured this happened, and I reckon that in the event of a breakup, Scotland will be sort of sidelined as further afield, investors would just be drawn to "England" and London.

Not surprising. Stock markets around the world have been declining, and pretty heavily at that, because of Ukraine and Scotland. There's a reason that a large amount of the No campaign's donators are wealthy businessmen. An independent Scotland's economy is not going to be as good as if the UK remained together, and from the recent alleged comments, sounds like they'll start off with a dismal credit situation too.

[Organized States]

Cultural diversity isn't anything to build an profitable and sustainable economy that will be left with little to no control over their currency with a massive debt, and facing possible recession with the immediate stock market drop following a yes vote.

Maybe that's part of the reason Salmond refuses to pay their part of the British national debt. Nevertheless, once they'll join the EU they'll be funded by it.

They are obligated to pay. They were just as party to it as the rest of the UK, unless they want to chase away more investors, he's going to have to sell his soul to the Germans, and that also would be the root for any Scottish entry into the EU.

[Ainin]

Cultural diversity isn't anything to build an profitable and sustainable economy that will be left with little to no control over their currency with a massive debt, and facing possible recession with the immediate stock market drop following a yes vote.

Maybe that's part of the reason Salmond refuses to pay their part of the British national debt. Nevertheless, once they'll join the EU they'll be funded by it.

If the UK won't veto it, then Germany will. Merkel doesn't want another Greece in her Reich.

[Organized States]

Maybe that's part of the reason Salmond refuses to pay their part of the British national debt. Nevertheless, once they'll join the EU they'll be funded by it.

If the UK won't veto it, then Germany will. Merkel doesn't want another Greece in her Reich.

She may want another Greece, just to rape with debt for the next hundred years, .

[Ainin]

If the UK won't veto it, then Germany will. Merkel doesn't want another Greece in her Reich.

She may want another Greece, just to rape with debt for the next hundred years, .

On a related and more serious note, it's likely that Spain and Belgium will veto Scottish admission to the EU to discourage Catalonia and Basque Country, and Flanders, respectively, from seceding.