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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:51 am

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:This is just another "ban X" because it offends me / I do not like it moments.

So basically, 75% of IM's threads.

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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:52 am

Merizoc wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:This is just another "ban X" because it offends me / I do not like it moments.

So basically, 75% of IM's threads.

Hey, look on the bright side: the cheap-ass unclassy clone of Colbert that we have keeps making satire threads suggesting someone be killed.
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Postby The Scientific States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:53 am

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The Scientific States wrote:How the hell do you ban dogs?

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That just sounds like a slaughter. :p
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Postby United States of Cascadia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:55 am

Merizoc wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:This is just another "ban X" because it offends me / I do not like it moments.

So basically, 75% of IM's threads.

Pretty much, although I thin it's a lot more than 75% of his threads.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:56 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Magic and the armies of Mordor.

In equal measure.


That just sounds like a slaughter. :p

As do half the suggestions we hear nowadays on NSG, apparently.
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Postby Christiaanistan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:04 am

Draica wrote:Is this satire..?
Nope. The dog the OP was talking about probably just wanted to lick her face, but apparently she was bitten by a dog when when she was a child, probably while doing something she had been told not to do, and decided that every dog in existence is just waiting for a chance to murder her.

I have the same gut reaction around wasps, having been stung by one as a child (a bad run-in with polistes carolina doesn't leave you with a favorable impression of the genus), but I don't advocate having them exterminated. They are useful animals that pollinate plants, and many predatory wasps are valuable for keeping plant parasites in check. To the organic farmer, they are a loyal hound. I know, rationally, that most of them don't mean me any harm. I am understandably a little cautious around them.

Some people just don't have the ability to distinguish between their gut reactions and rationally conceived opinions.
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Postby The Batorys » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Yesterday, while I was taking a walk by the harbor, a vicious white dog suddenly barked in my direction. Within seconds it was chasing me down the lenght of the harbor and I was running for my life. I never knew I could run that fast but I managed to emerge from the incident, unscathed. This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened to me; in fact as a little kid dogs have attacked me on many occasions throughout various cities around the world. I also cannot stand the sight of dog droppings on the sidewalk.

I have come to the conclusion that dogs should be banned. And its not just because I personally don't like them. Here are some reasons why it would benefit public policy to outlaw them.

1. They are dangerous

Dogs are very dangerous because they can bite people. Owners can try to control their dogs but the fact of the matter is, they can't always keep everything under control; accidents will happen. Dogs are a safety hazard, not just to the people who buy them but also to everyone else. When guests come to a house with dogs their lives may be in danger; when dogs are taken out for walks, pedestrians are in danger. Its not right that someone can buy a dog and then endanger other people.

The power of dog bites must not be underestimated. Some dogs have so much power that they can bite human fingers off; they are a carnivorous species after all. I've heard some horror stories about dogs going crazy and maiming people. If a dog attacks you and bites you and then you get infected by disease, you could die if not treated. Sure, dog owners are liable and you can go after them for what their dogs do. But the system is imperfect (you need to prove stuff, courts are slow). Also, if a dog attacks you and you lose your fingers or a hand... do you REALLY think an owner can adequately compensate you for your loss with money (your body parts are priceless)? If dogs did not exist, the danger would not be there.

2. The Dog Droppings

People have a right to walk down sidewalks and throughout parks without having to worry about stepping on dog droppings. People should not have to contend with these sights. Yes in theory owners are supposed to clean up after their dogs but in my experience, too many owners don't and its costing the rest of us. I suppose if you accidentally step on dog droppings you could go after the owner and try to sue him but there are obviously problems with this (1. the courts aren't likely to award you sufficient damages 2. you don't know who the owner is, you just know that you've just stepped on some serious crap). If dogs were not around in society, there would be no dog droppings. I think we could adopt an approach similar to Singapore, where they have a no tolerance policy towards chewing gum on the floor in public areas with respect to the dog dropping problem.

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So NSG, what do you think?

Is it time to outlaw dogs? Make our streets safe from droppings and random dog attacks?

I think you've succeeded in making another ridiculous, stupid thread, whose only purpose was to get a rise out of people.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:19 am

Napkiraly wrote:
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As someone who has been attacked by a swarm of German paper wasps whilst out hiking, amen to that.

Or, this thing.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:21 am

Viritica wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Or, this thing.
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Such a creature should never be allowed to live.

What unholy result of a Satanic union is that?

Satan has nothing to do with that insect. All creatures great and small were created by God himself, according to certain creation myths.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:38 am

Dogs aren't particularly dangerous. If a (domestic) dog is dangerous, you're doing something wrong.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:46 am

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Postby Christiaanistan » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:00 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Dogs aren't particularly dangerous. If a (domestic) dog is dangerous, you're doing something wrong.
Actually, I wonder what the OP's thoughts might be on the carolina dog, which is effectively America's "dingo." Most people didn't know about them until a few years ago, but it's gradually being more widely realized that the carolina dog is a true "pariah dog" that apparently came here with the Indians.

A pariah dog is, literally, a breed of dog that has a relationship with humans not too much unlike how cats used to be in Europe. That is, they are essentially a wild animal, with the primary social interaction between them and humans being having various things thrown at them (rocks, shoes, bones, or whatever seems most appropriate at the time), but humans have been an essential part of their survival since neolithic times.

Now, the carolina dog is effectively a unique animal that has roamed the savannahs possibly for millennia. Now, does the OP think that we ought to go out into the woods and hunt down all of the carolina dogs? Should they, as essentially wild animals, be subject to leash laws?
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Postby Berdanvia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:03 pm

You are stupid Infected Mushrooms. Dogs, as people say, are man's best friend. As far back as history records, dogs have always helped humans. Yes some dogs are savage and violent, but so are some humans as well.

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Postby Lordieth » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:12 pm

It saddens me how often people see dogs as being the problem, rather than irresponsible owners. In all the cases of recently reported dog attacks in the UK, the dog was left around vulnerable children. Where the hell were the owners?

In one case, a five-year old girl was mauled because their neighbours hadn't secure the two dogs properly in their cages.

In their cages. Nobody should be allowed to look after dogs that are vicious enough to require being locked in cages. Fault of the dogs? No. They behave based on instinct. The owners had a choice. They choose to be irresponsible. The UK has strengthened laws against negligence dog owners, but I don't think it goes far enough. A vicious dog is no different to a loaded weapon.
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Postby Hladgos » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:26 pm

This is the most unintelligent thread I have ever thrown up on in the history of my life.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:27 pm

Hladgos wrote:This is the most unintelligent thread I have ever thrown up on in the history of my life.

There you go, jinxing yourself to a fate of it getting worse.
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Postby Hladgos » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:29 pm

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Hladgos wrote:This is the most unintelligent thread I have ever thrown up on in the history of my life.

There you go, jinxing yourself to a fate of it getting worse.

How could it get worse? Ban plantlife?
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:31 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Arglorand wrote:There you go, jinxing yourself to a fate of it getting worse.

How could it get worse? Ban plantlife?

You just wait. You just wait.

I wouldn't be surprised in a "ban food" thread at this point.
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Postby Lordieth » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:32 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Arglorand wrote:There you go, jinxing yourself to a fate of it getting worse.

How could it get worse? Ban plantlife?


I wouldn't be averse to giving bad dog owners exotic and poisonous plants to take care of.
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Postby Hladgos » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:34 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Hladgos wrote:How could it get worse? Ban plantlife?

You just wait. You just wait.

I wouldn't be surprised in a "ban food" thread at this point.

I was almost destroyed by a massive burger at Mcdonalds earlier today, and I came to the rash conclusion that all food must be dangerous because of this, and needs to be immediately banned.

Lordieth wrote:
Hladgos wrote:How could it get worse? Ban plantlife?


I wouldn't be averse to giving bad dog owners exotic and poisonous plants to take care of.

True, bad dog owners don't deserve much pity.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:34 pm

Hladgos wrote:This is the most unintelligent thread I have ever thrown up on in the history of my life.

Lucky you. I've seen so much worse.
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Postby United Regions of Verona » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

Just had an idea.

Dogs will wander the streets and alleys when banned. And at night poop everywhere and you will still step on dog poop. Probs can't be solved. Ridiculous. Costly.
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Postby Mealesia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Magic and the armies of Mordor.

In equal measure.


That just sounds like a slaughter. :p

It would not.
Because when you take dogs you take a valued member of humanity away
When you do that.
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Postby Sheltopolis » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:People have a right to walk down sidewalks and throughout parks without having to worry about stepping on dog droppings


Oh look, another person who doesn't know their own rights.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:37 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Arglorand wrote:You just wait. You just wait.

I wouldn't be surprised in a "ban food" thread at this point.

I was almost destroyed by a massive burger at Mcdonalds earlier today, and I came to the rash conclusion that all food must be dangerous because of this, and needs to be immediately banned.

I talked to a person today.

He seemed like a douchebag.

I came to the conclusion that douchebags are inescapable in the human race, and as I strongly believe that people have a right not to interact with douchebags, the human race should be banned.
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