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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:04 am

Alcase wrote:
Estenia wrote:Radiation can kill people in a matter of days. Still bad idea.

Most things in a hospital are sterilized with electromagnetic waves (Gamma radiation, IIRC)

This is actually very informative on the topic: http://www.nordion.com/gamma/gamma_101.html

It's gamma Irradiation.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:05 am

Vamtrl wrote:Despite the cute cat avatar I have, I generally agree with the principle of the OP but in a much broader way then just dogs. We should stop keeping animals as pets and eventually wean it down to just having domesticated animals for food.

1, no, 2, Kefka is proposing specicide of all dogs, and presumably dog-related animals.
He might as well just go nuke the rainforest.
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Hidden in this bizarrely written OP is essentially the statist philosophy - "anything I don't like must be banned."

"Let's ban everything" is not statism.
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Chilokver wrote:Yep, but you could sterilize it with UV light or radiation.

Yep, but you could sterilize with UV light or radiation.

Radiation can kill people in a matter of days. Still bad idea.

The average person receives UV radiation every day of their lives for seventy years.

Natural sources - rocks, concrete, food, drink, solar (UV) radiation - vastly outweigh any man-made sources in emission and exposure.
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Postby Quilavaland » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Natural sources - rocks, concrete, food, drink, solar (UV) radiation - vastly outweigh any man-made sources in emission and exposure.


Solar UV radiation is actually a very serious problem in Australia. Skin cancer kills thousands of people a year. Just because it's natural doesn't make it good.
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I see your point, but...

Postby The Democratic Republic of Long Island » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:09 am

I can clearly see your opinion, and I respect that. Though, I think it would be impossible to live without dogs. For example, some dogs are brought to hospitals and used to realise some kind of hormone that cheers them up. The dog, (Wish i could remember the name) usually is with depressed kids and makes them feel better. Dogs have also saved countless lives through police work, fire fighting, and have hunted food for us through anicet times, helping us make life easier.

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Postby Bralia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:10 am

Reploid Productions wrote:There's no bad dogs, only bad owners. Clearly, if we want to reach the TRUE source of the problem, bad owners should be banned.

This is the only answer this thread needs. Gods, the dog across the street from me NEVER SHUTS UP and the owners don't do shit about it.
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Postby Alcase » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:11 am

Estenia wrote:
Alcase wrote:Most things in a hospital are sterilized with electromagnetic waves (Gamma radiation, IIRC)

This is actually very informative on the topic: http://www.nordion.com/gamma/gamma_101.html

It's gamma Irradiation.

I don't know a lot about gamma radiation, but I'm pretty sure gamma irradiation is only the process of pumping gamma radiation into and out of something.
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:12 am

Bralia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:There's no bad dogs, only bad owners. Clearly, if we want to reach the TRUE source of the problem, bad owners should be banned.

This is the only answer this thread needs. Gods, the dog across the street from me NEVER SHUTS UP and the owners don't do shit about it.

Ok good point, but say it kinder the next time.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:13 am

Quilavaland wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Natural sources - rocks, concrete, food, drink, solar (UV) radiation - vastly outweigh any man-made sources in emission and exposure.


Solar UV radiation is actually a very serious problem in Australia. Skin cancer kills thousands of people a year. Just because it's natural doesn't make it good.

I don't recall saying it was.
I was challenging the notion that "radiation kills in days", with regards to UV and gamma sterilisation.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:13 am

Alcase wrote:
Estenia wrote:It's gamma Irradiation.

I don't know a lot about gamma radiation, but I'm pretty sure gamma irradiation is only the process of pumping gamma radiation into and out of something.

It is, yes.
The rather apt term of "bathing" is also sometimes used.
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Postby Springedge » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:19 am

We might as well ban humans too! They are much, much more dangerous than dogs! Plus, I've seen some people take a shit on the sidewalk...

Can't we use this argument to ban just about every living creature?
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:25 am

Springedge wrote:We might as well ban humans too! They are much, much more dangerous than dogs! Plus, I've seen some people take a shit on the sidewalk...

Can't we use this argument to ban just about every living creature?

You say that because YOU HATE ANY OTHER LIVING CREATURE, ICLUDING YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUMAN.
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Postby Murkwood » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:26 am

I hate how some people on the left (and sometimes right) love to do shit like this.

Minor inconvenience for me = BAN IT FOR THE CHILDREN!
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:30 am

Murkwood wrote:I hate how some people on the left (and sometimes right) love to do shit like this.

Minor inconvenience for me = BAN IT FOR THE CHILDREN!

Wrong it's BAN IT FOR IDIOTS.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:41 am

Anyone else wondering if God Kefka/Infected Mushrooms was in fact Shie?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:42 am

Gauthier wrote:Anyone else wondering if God Kefka/Infected Mushrooms was in fact Shie?

Personally, I think it's worryingly likely they are different people.
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:42 am

Gauthier wrote:Anyone else wondering if God Kefka/Infected Mushrooms was in fact Shie?

Yes they both start threads like this but Shie uses only 1 word for the title while Infected Mushroom more.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:44 am

Estenia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:I hate how some people on the left (and sometimes right) love to do shit like this.

Minor inconvenience for me = BAN IT FOR THE CHILDREN!

Wrong it's BAN IT FOR IDIOTS.

Wasn't the whole "won't anybody think of the children!" principle not more of a conservative battle cry? These days everybody is using that argument, because surely you can't go wrong by including the precious, innocent children into the mix.

Gauthier wrote:Anyone else wondering if God Kefka/Infected Mushrooms was in fact Shie?

That would almost be convenient, but that is not the case as far as I know. Oh well, this thread gives us something to do.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:48 am

I think we should have a ban on people who have posted on NSG ever taking an active part in government or campaigning.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:48 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Estenia wrote:Wrong it's BAN IT FOR IDIOTS.

Wasn't the whole "won't anybody think of the children!" principle not more of a conservative battle cry? These days everybody is using that argument, because surely you can't go wrong by including the precious, innocent children into the mix.

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Postby Springedge » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:49 am

Estenia wrote:You say that because YOU HATE ANY OTHER LIVING CREATURE, ICLUDING YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUMAN.



I can't tell if you seriously thought I was advocating banning everything, or you're being sarcastic. :s

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:50 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:I think we should have a ban on people who have posted on NSG ever taking an active part in government or campaigning.


Then we'd need a new Vice President.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:51 am

Obviously.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:52 am

Gauthier wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I think we should have a ban on people who have posted on NSG ever taking an active part in government or campaigning.


Then we'd need a new Vice President.


I'm not entirely seeing the negative here :p
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:52 am

Gauthier wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I think we should have a ban on people who have posted on NSG ever taking an active part in government or campaigning.


Then we'd need a new Vice President.


Damnit. So the Cons impeach Obama and now Biden's gone too.
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