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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:54 am

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Sun Wukong wrote:If OP things dogs are dangerous, he should consider the legion of eight year-olds that will descend upon him after he pointlessly kills off their best friend.


If you read my previous post about the logistics, if things go according to plan not a single dog will need to be executed. If everyone follows the rules, everyone can be happy.

All current owners may keep their dogs. But under the law no dogs will be allowed to reproduce. Before the time is up there will be economic incentives for owners to send their dogs away to other places where they are still legal.

When a lenght of time has passed (equal to the maximum possible lifetime for a dog), all remaining dogs (by definition illegal), will be forcibly removed.

Eight years old won't have a problem because if they had a dog, it would have died of natural causes. If it didn't, then the dog (logically) would have to be illegal. If they broke the law, then they are responsible for the consequences (or the adults).


Er, how do you define the maximum possible age for a dog, considering that just like with Humans, there's a huge number of variables that could make them live longer than the maximum, eg - the oldest dog in history almost made it to age 30..

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Postby Adin » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:57 am

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Postby New Aerios » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:04 am

This is why it's silly to start running as soon as a dog barks at you. It will chase, because you have drawn attention to yourself as prey as soon as you start fleeing from it.

Also, "WAAAH SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I DIDN'T LIKE IT AND I PISSED MY LITTLE PANTIES CAN WE BAN IT NOW PLEEEEEEAAAAAAASE?!"
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Postby Germanic Imperium » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:06 am

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Postby Allmann » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:40 am

I dont even..

Op, if the dog did not bark in a threathening way and by running you kind of implied to the dog that you were det playing with it.
I know because I've done that myself. Ran three laps around a cottage before being tackled by the dog.

And to ban dogs because of droppings?
Then we should ban all other animals we keep as pets or for work. Like horses, horse dropping is way worse than dog dropping.

Silly idea this.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:44 am

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Well, the person who started this thread is the phenomenon formerly known as God Kefka. Usually all kinds of alarms should go off in your head when someone whose previous nation was deleted by the moderators starts threads. They were usually not deleted because they were such innocent little darlings.
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Postby Adab » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:59 am

I don't a reason why we should ban dogs. As long as they are properly treated by their owner(s) and behave well in the public, they are not a threat to anyone - in fact, many people find them to be good (and cute) companions. There's a reason people around the world love dogs. Of course, if you fear dogs, you can just avoid going so close to them as soon as you see one.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:59 am

No, dogs should be banned.

Dogs are man's best friend, and wonderful creatures. If dogs don't like you, then its likely there's something wrong with you.

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Postby Lenciland » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:59 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:If OP things dogs are dangerous, he should consider the legion of eight year-olds that will descend upon him after he pointlessly kills off their best friend.


If you read my previous post about the logistics, if things go according to plan not a single dog will need to be executed. If everyone follows the rules, everyone can be happy.

All current owners may keep their dogs. But under the law no dogs will be allowed to reproduce. Before the time is up there will be economic incentives for owners to send their dogs away to other places where they are still legal.

When a lenght of time has passed (equal to the maximum possible lifetime for a dog), all remaining dogs (by definition illegal), will be forcibly removed.

Eight years old won't have a problem because if they had a dog, it would have died of natural causes. If it didn't, then the dog (logically) would have to be illegal. If they broke the law, then they are responsible for the consequences (or the adults).

So, I'm giving up my family members because you are afraid of a little puppy? I honestly think that we have larger issues than a little puppy, so you need to suck it up and act like an adult. I can bite you and shit on the sidewalk, should people be banned?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:01 am

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Infected Mushroom wrote:
If you read my previous post about the logistics, if things go according to plan not a single dog will need to be executed. If everyone follows the rules, everyone can be happy.

All current owners may keep their dogs. But under the law no dogs will be allowed to reproduce. Before the time is up there will be economic incentives for owners to send their dogs away to other places where they are still legal.

When a lenght of time has passed (equal to the maximum possible lifetime for a dog), all remaining dogs (by definition illegal), will be forcibly removed.

Eight years old won't have a problem because if they had a dog, it would have died of natural causes. If it didn't, then the dog (logically) would have to be illegal. If they broke the law, then they are responsible for the consequences (or the adults).

So, I'm giving up my family members because you are afraid of a little puppy? I honestly think that we have larger issues than a little puppy, so you need to suck it up and act like an adult. I can bite you and shit on the sidewalk, should people be banned?

Good point. Humanity is humanity's worst enemy, so there's only one solution: ban humanity. It's the only way to be sure!
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Lenciland » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:02 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lenciland wrote:So, I'm giving up my family members because you are afraid of a little puppy? I honestly think that we have larger issues than a little puppy, so you need to suck it up and act like an adult. I can bite you and shit on the sidewalk, should people be banned?

Good point. Humanity is humanity's worst enemy, so there's only one solution: ban humanity. It's the only way to be sure!

Quite right, quite right! Ban humans to save humans.
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Postby Adab » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:02 am

Trollgaard wrote:No, dogs should be banned.

Dogs are man's best friend, and wonderful creatures. If dogs don't like you, then its likely there's something wrong with you.


May I point out that your argument actually lends support to the "dogs should not be banned" opinion?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:03 am

Trollgaard wrote:No, dogs should be banned.

Dogs are man's best friend, and wonderful creatures. If dogs don't like you, then its likely there's something wrong with you.

Wow. I think this is the first time I've agreed with you on anything.

Bringing people together, one more reason not to ban dogs.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:03 am

Lenciland wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Good point. Humanity is humanity's worst enemy, so there's only one solution: ban humanity. It's the only way to be sure!

Quite right, quite right! Ban humans to save humans.

It's the mother of all solutions!
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:04 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Quite right, quite right! Ban humans to save humans.

It's the mother of all solutions!

It's the basis of my Presidential campaign! Death Star 2016!
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:05 am

Adab wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:No, dogs should be banned.

Dogs are man's best friend, and wonderful creatures. If dogs don't like you, then its likely there's something wrong with you.


May I point out that your argument actually lends support to the "dogs should not be banned" opinion?

Trollgaard is right, dogs musn't be banned and they are wonderful creatures, Infected Mushroom must have a phobia on dogs, or hurting him/her and then the dogs bite him/her.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:06 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:It's the mother of all solutions!

It's the basis of my Presidential campaign! Death Star 2016!

What could possibly go wrong? We can get of every potential problem that way... even dogs! Death Stars are the ultimate problem solvers!
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:07 am

Despite the cute cat avatar I have, I generally agree with the principle of the OP but in a much broader way then just dogs. We should stop keeping animals as pets and eventually wean it down to just having domesticated animals for food.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:08 am

Estenia wrote:
Adab wrote:
May I point out that your argument actually lends support to the "dogs should not be banned" opinion?

Trollgaard is right, dogs musn't be banned and they are wonderful creatures, Infected Mushroom must have a phobia on dogs, or hurting him/her and then the dogs bite him/her.

Infected Mushroom was banned once. Apparently it damaged him, now he wants to damage some other lifeforms in retribution. Or am I analyzing this whole silly thing too deeply?
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Toronina » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:09 am

Is this satire? For the love of all things, please tell me this is satire
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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:10 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Estenia wrote:Trollgaard is right, dogs musn't be banned and they are wonderful creatures, Infected Mushroom must have a phobia on dogs, or hurting him/her and then the dogs bite him/her.

Infected Mushroom was banned once. Apparently it damaged him, now he wants to damage some other lifeforms in retribution. Or am I analyzing this whole silly thing too deeply?

No get more deep, Infected Mushroom hates everything living, in a few days, he will make a thread about Mods and writing that they are dangerous.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:13 am

NO!

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Postby Estenia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:15 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:NO!

Why?
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:16 am

Wait, wasn't Infected Mushrooms also the guy who wanted to outlaw public nudity because the thought of somebody else naked could traumatize him?
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Postby Quilavaland » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:18 am

Vamtrl wrote:Despite the cute cat avatar I have, I generally agree with the principle of the OP but in a much broader way then just dogs. We should stop keeping animals as pets and eventually wean it down to just having domesticated animals for food.


I'd argue exactly the opposite.
We can stop using them for food because this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat is about to happen.
But we need them for psychological reasons. I'd have lost all sanity by now without my dog's unconditional love, and I'm sure a lot of other people who are different or disabled or even just going through hard times would agree with me.
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