Dogs should be Banned

[Costa Fierro]

Dog's should never be banned. Ban Tick's and Mosquito's instead.

And wasps. Fuck wasps.

As someone who has been attacked by a swarm of German paper wasps whilst out hiking, amen to that.

[Adin]

[Corenea]

Dog's should never be banned. Ban Tick's and Mosquito's instead.

And wasps. Fuck wasps.

I think that's pretty painful

[New Edom]

Small dogs tend to be more aggressive largely because on average people tend to assume that they're small and cute and don't need to be trained as well.

There are always going to be dangers. Banning dogs is not really a good solution. Dogs provide enough benefits to people and furthermore legislation or bylaws passed seem to generally be effective. Dog breeds that are naturally aggressive towards people are in some cases banned from certain cities, and even a dog nipping a person can bring them to court.

Of course it is very upsetting to have a frightening experience with an animal. People who love said animals unfortunately can anthropomorphize them, make light of potential problems and that's just plain alarming. I would absolutely agree that dogs can be dangerous. However banning dogs is not a solution I support. I would instead support greater public awareness, recommend in areas where dogs aren't sufficiently controlled that stiffer penalties be given to irresponsible dog owners and that it be a given that an actual dog bite to a person who was not demonstrated to be physically threatening someone the dog was protecting or on a property where sufficient warning of guard dogs was, as examples should be destroyed. We don't ban cars just because they are dangerous; we instead regulate their use. The same thing can be done for dog excrement.

[Dracoria]

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Alternate caption: "Ack, close the door when you do that! ...I didn't know you did it me style."

[Quilavaland]

Dogs are too cute to be banned!

[Common Territories]

Yesterday, while I was taking a walk by the harbor, a vicious white dog suddenly barked in my direction. Within seconds it was chasing me down the lenght of the harbor and I was running for my life. I never knew I could run that fast but I managed to emerge from the incident, unscathed. This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened to me; in fact as a little kid dogs have attacked me on many occasions throughout various cities around the world. I also cannot stand the sight of dog droppings on the sidewalk.

I have come to the conclusion that dogs should be banned. And its not just because I personally don't like them. Here are some reasons why it would benefit public policy to outlaw them.

1. They are dangerous

Dogs are very dangerous because they can bite people. Owners can try to control their dogs but the fact of the matter is, they can't always keep everything under control; accidents will happen. Dogs are a safety hazard, not just to the people who buy them but also to everyone else. When guests come to a house with dogs their lives may be in danger; when dogs are taken out for walks, pedestrians are in danger. Its not right that someone can buy a dog and then endanger other people.

The power of dog bites must not be underestimated. Some dogs have so much power that they can bite human fingers off; they are a carnivorous species after all. I've heard some horror stories about dogs going crazy and maiming people. If a dog attacks you and bites you and then you get infected by disease, you could die if not treated. Sure, dog owners are liable and you can go after them for what their dogs do. But the system is imperfect (you need to prove stuff, courts are slow). Also, if a dog attacks you and you lose your fingers or a hand... do you REALLY think an owner can adequately compensate you for your loss with money (your body parts are priceless)? If dogs did not exist, the danger would not be there.

2. The Dog Droppings

People have a right to walk down sidewalks and throughout parks without having to worry about stepping on dog droppings. People should not have to contend with these sights. Yes in theory owners are supposed to clean up after their dogs but in my experience, too many owners don't and its costing the rest of us. I suppose if you accidentally step on dog droppings you could go after the owner and try to sue him but there are obviously problems with this (1. the courts aren't likely to award you sufficient damages 2. you don't know who the owner is, you just know that you've just stepped on some serious crap). If dogs were not around in society, there would be no dog droppings. I think we could adopt an approach similar to Singapore, where they have a no tolerance policy towards chewing gum on the floor in public areas with respect to the dog dropping problem.

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So NSG, what do you think?

Is it time to outlaw dogs? Make our streets safe from droppings and random dog attacks?

I dislike posting on NSG but this thread caught my eye and made me laugh and sigh at the same time. As both a person who grew up with dogs and have been attacked by them before, I can say I understand them well; not to mention knowing plenty of other dog owners/attack victims. So anyways...

1: Welcome to the real world where wild animals, like the one you describe, attack other living things. In nature, this is usually done out of either trying to eat you or because you pissed off whatever you did. But wait, there's more. There are literally hundreds of animals, including humans, who both attack other people and shit. You have bears, snakes, sharks, deadly spiders, scorpions, and horses to name a few who have either attacked and/or eaten humans. Even humans have/do eat humans. What im getting at is that YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY OTHER LIFEFORMS LIKE IT OR NOT, AND THESE LIFEFORMS HURT AND SHIT LIKE DOGS TOO. As much as I detested cleaning dog shit as a kid, the fact is that they are not the only thing that will shit or attack you. This will lead up to number two, which is...

2: How do you plan to outlaw them? Are you going to go house to house and put a bullet in every dog's head like old Yeller? Then proceed to pile them all up and burn the remains? Or are you gonna take a some helpful hints from the Nazis and just shove them into gas chambers. My point being is that the only way to outlaw a living thing is to hunt it, into extinction that is. Don't even go there with putting them into zoos or something of the like because that's not outlawing them. You can't just outlaw something and think it'll just disappear, no, that would be crazy. When liquor was banned in the US, they destroyed anything related to them from the bars to the very liquid; that is simply how outlaws work, extermination. So if you want to exterminate dogs then you would have to hunt and kill every domestic dog, every wild dog, wolves, and anything else related to canines to fulfill your outlaw. Otherwise, it wont be a real outlaw.

On the same note, why are dogs only limited? People kill more people then dogs ever have. A study for dog related attacks/deaths in 2013 had some 4.7 million (2%) cases were dogs bit a person; out of all those cases, only a very small minority (0.0002%) died of their wounds. Now to give some credit; dogs can be lethal killers, but not because of their actual bites. Such an example is in 2010 that dog mauling killed 33 people out of a usual 25,000 killed annually because of dogs. What kills this many people isn't the dog bite but the wounds becoming infected. But back on topic; if dogs are so deadly that they need to be outlawed, then lets do the same to every other living creature that is deadly to humans. Lets name a few to start off with: Mosquito (transmitter of several deadly diseases like Malaria, which kills someone every single minute), Humans (averaging around 475,000 yearly in either homicide or suicide cases), snakes (which kill over 50,000 annually, 300 of snake species being venomous), the assassin bug or "kissing bug" (which carries Chagas disease and has killed over 7 million people in Central and South America), snails (because "tiny parasitic snails that live in rivers and lakes across the world spread the disease, schistosomiasis, to humans...". Which note, makes you paralyzed at the legs and vomit blood as a few signs of the symptoms), BTW, those last three kill 10,000 annually every year; and lets add tapeworms, sharks, other parasitic worms, elephants, large cats, bears... Are you getting the picture yet? If not, let me tell you that these things: ARE KNOWN KILLERS OF HUMANS AND STILL EXIST FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER. So if you want to outlaw dogs for the reason that they shit and can hurt people - I think your list should be updated to show the vast majority of things, people, and non-living organisms (diseases and etc.) that kill people or shit. Like horses; they're dangerous and big right? And anyone who has been to a fair and walked behind one can tell you, their shit is a lot worse to deal with then a dog's any day. Oh, and outlaw humans because they kill humans. Wait...

3: Since outlawing living things sorta means you have to exterminate them, wont that have damaging side affects?

4: If you want to outlaw dogs, you'd have to remove them from homes. Good luck doing that since a lot of the times dogs are either family or loved more than family. I know if someone tried to take my dog when I was a kid, I would proudly defend them with my life because I loved my dogs essentially as they were family. Im sure various other dog owners will either say or understand the feeling.

With that off my chest, this is the end of my rant

[Dracoria]

And wasps. Fuck wasps.

I think that's pretty painful

Sting me in the hole!

[Napkiraly]

And wasps. Fuck wasps.

As someone who has been attacked by a swarm of German paper wasps whilst out hiking, amen to that.

Or, this thing.

Such a creature should never be allowed to live.

[Maronia]

As someone who has been attacked by a swarm of German paper wasps whilst out hiking, amen to that.

Or, this thing.

Such a creature should never be allowed to live.

the...theee... horror.

[The Flood]

Small dogs are harmless, and most big dogs are also harmless. Banning all of them because a small minority can be dangerous is stupid.

[Quilavaland]

As someone who has been attacked by a swarm of German paper wasps whilst out hiking, amen to that.

Or, this thing.

Such a creature should never be allowed to live.

Don't worry, Quilavas know SmokeScreen, we'll take care of those wasps >:3

[Doperland]

Or, this thing.

Such a creature should never be allowed to live.

Don't worry, Quilavas know SmokeScreen, we'll take care of those wasps >:3

IF you find a Quilava in real life, then sure....

[Quilavaland]

Don't worry, Quilavas know SmokeScreen, we'll take care of those wasps >:3

IF you find a Quilava in real life, then sure....

You never know what genetic technology might do

[Vsenyslavia]

People are dangerous to people.
People should be banned.
You should be the first person.

[Wisconsin9]

Small dogs are harmless, and most big dogs are also harmless. Banning all of them because a small minority can be dangerous is stupid.

No. Completely wrong. In the right circumstances, any dog is dangerous. Thankfully, those circumstances don't come up very often.

[Perome]

OP by your own logic here is everything that should be banned/exterminated.

1.)YOU, there are 7 BILLION people in this world, one less would mean nothing.(fascists, are scum and should be exterminated anyway (just stating facts)
2.)Art(physical/electronic)
3.)Religion
4.)Race(No real purpose except being a divider for SO MANY different people, we should ban race by your wording)
5.)Guns "we should ban them so another country can EASILY wipe us out "
6.)Sex(we have the ability to clone from a single cell do we really still need this?!)
7.)Food(it has been shown we do not need food to survive so why keep it around?)
8.)Water(^)
9.)Money
10.)Education(people got along fine when they were hunter-gather tribes
11.)Entertainment(this covers anything considered fun by anyone...SO EVERYTHING)
I can go on forever with this list however, I chose not to as i have more important things to do.

[Socialist Czechia]

Small dogs are harmless, and most big dogs are also harmless. Banning all of them because a small minority can be dangerous is stupid.

No. Completely wrong. In the right circumstances, any dog is dangerous. Thankfully, those circumstances don't come up very often.

Rats or pigeons with diseases can be more dangerous than any dog.

You can try only ban all animals

[Costa Fierro]

Small dogs are harmless, and most big dogs are also harmless. Banning all of them because a small minority can be dangerous is stupid.

No. Completely wrong. In the right circumstances, any dog is dangerous. Thankfully, those circumstances don't come up very often.

They don't. I have had one of my dogs "attacked" once, although it was more of a scare than anything else (and it was part of our attempts to properly socialize her as a puppy once she had been given her complete set of vaccinations) and my parents had one of their dogs attacked, but you become familiar with how dogs behave towards each other and can prepare or engage in a way that prevents negative behaviors.

If I see a strange dog for example, I'll start speaking in a high pitch and hold my hand down for the dog to sniff.

[Dracoria]

No. Completely wrong. In the right circumstances, any dog is dangerous. Thankfully, those circumstances don't come up very often.

Rats or pigeons with diseases can be more dangerous than any dog.

You can try only ban all animals

Especially...

[Imperializt Russia]

1. They are dangerous

Dogs are very dangerous because they can bite people. Owners can try to control their dogs but the fact of the matter is, they can't always keep everything under control; accidents will happen. Dogs are a safety hazard, not just to the people who buy them but also to everyone else. When guests come to a house with dogs their lives may be in danger; when dogs are taken out for walks, pedestrians are in danger. Its not right that someone can buy a dog and then endanger other people.

People can and do bite people, with impressively horrific results.

Ban people!

[Eaglleia]

Ban peo-Oh dammnit, everyone already said it.

Also this is stupid.

[Dracoria]

Ban peo-Oh dammnit, everyone already said it.

Also this is stupid.

That seems to be the general consensus.

[Opplandia]

bwahahaa this crazy thread really made my day. nothing better then . comedy in the morning.

[United States of Natan]

Some small children have an irrational fear of dogs. Usually they grow up of it. I'm not sure about this, I haven't been afraid of dogs.

yes, I had an irrational fear of dogs when I was little. now I don't.

Leashes are an imperfect mechanism of control.

In fact, two of the times I was attacked by dogs the animal had a leash and a collar. But the owner was distracted or just didn't care much for my safety.

You know you invalidate your own statement, right? the owner was distracted or did not care much for your safety, which is why you got attacked. it had nothing to do with the leash or dog.

Anyway, mankind has tamed dogs for thousands of years. As far as I know, nobody has complained during that period of time. Dogs are even known as man's best friend.

Besides, dogs do far more good than harm. They have been shown to assist people with depression, they help blind people, are great companions, have helped police in numerous ways, such as sniffing out drugs, bombs, etc. By banning dogs, you regress our society thousands of years, to when dogs were just untamed wolfs, waiting for human companions.