Your Opinion of Political Correctness

[Text People]

In a truly free society being racist is, in a sense, protected.

It's the same thing as not being able to legislate morality either.

Protected from what?

Protected from people trying to force their beliefs on whomever. Unpopular opinions and beliefs are actually more important in a democracy.

[Farnhamia]

I don't really follow US news and I sure as fuck don't follow US sports. He was banned from the NBA for racist comments, right?

Yes, he lost his team because of a personal conversation with a woman who was setting him up to take a fall.

He may be a person that I oculdn't stand if I met him, but he was railroaded.

He was banned outright without even using a racial slur.

Well, railroading is as railroading does. One could argue that he set himself up, given that a month previously Sterling's wife embarked on a lawsuit to recover from his "friend," V. Stiviano, "$1.8-million Los Angeles duplex as well as a Ferrari, two Bentleys, and a Range Rover she said her husband bought for Stiviano." When one's private life is being bruited about in the courts, this kind of thing happens and Sterling acted foolishly by even talking to Stiviano while the suit was going on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ste ... fetime_ban

[Text People]

Yes, he lost his team because of a personal conversation with a woman who was setting him up to take a fall.

He may be a person that I oculdn't stand if I met him, but he was railroaded.

He was banned outright without even using a racial slur.

Well, railroading is as railroading does. One could argue that he set himself up, given that a month previously Sterling's wife embarked on a lawsuit to recover from his "friend," V. Stiviano, "$1.8-million Los Angeles duplex as well as a Ferrari, two Bentleys, and a Range Rover she said her husband bought for Stiviano." When one's private life is being bruited about in the courts, this kind of thing happens and Sterling acted foolishly by even talking to Stiviano while the suit was going on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ste ... fetime_ban

Oh god, now we are almost talking about man vs. women/ feminism out of control.

Any person deserves to keep a business or home, etc, that has meaning to him and is part of his financial security.

She went outside the law.

[Zottistan]

Protected from what?

Protected from people trying to force their beliefs on whomever. Unpopular opinions and beliefs are actually more important in a democracy.

Trying to "force" their beliefs upon them by not associating with them or criticizing them?

[Text People]

Protected from people trying to force their beliefs on whomever. Unpopular opinions and beliefs are actually more important in a democracy.

Trying to "force" their beliefs upon them by not associating with them or criticizing them?

No, by personally destroying them. That's one way. The rest is another story for another time.

[Zottistan]

Trying to "force" their beliefs upon them by not associating with them or criticizing them?

No, by personally destroying them. That's one way. The rest is another story for another time.

Personally destroying them by kicking them out of your organization, i.e. not associating with them?

[Text People]

No, by personally destroying them. That's one way. The rest is another story for another time.

Personally destroying them by kicking them out of your organization, i.e. not associating with them?

I'm talking of more than Sterling.

I mean people who have to live under a glaring spotlight and have people with a certain mentality harass and abuse them.

Their lives can be made hell and they lose a big chunk of their lives because of it. Noone has that right.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, railroading is as railroading does. One could argue that he set himself up, given that a month previously Sterling's wife embarked on a lawsuit to recover from his "friend," V. Stiviano, "$1.8-million Los Angeles duplex as well as a Ferrari, two Bentleys, and a Range Rover she said her husband bought for Stiviano." When one's private life is being bruited about in the courts, this kind of thing happens and Sterling acted foolishly by even talking to Stiviano while the suit was going on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ste ... fetime_ban

Oh god, now we are almost talking about man vs. women/ feminism out of control.

Any person deserves to keep a business or home, etc, that has meaning to him and is part of his financial security.

She went outside the law.

Note, that Sterling's wife brought the suit in behalf of the Sterling family, it wasn't what you think it means.

[Farnhamia]

Personally destroying them by kicking them out of your organization, i.e. not associating with them?

I'm talking of more than Sterling.

I mean people who have to live under a glaring spotlight and have people with a certain mentality harass and abuse them.

Their lives can be made hell and they lose a big chunk of their lives because of it. Noone has that right.

No one forced Mr. Sterling to say the things he said on the recording. When one lives in under a glaring spotlight, one ought to be a little circumspect.

[Zottistan]

Personally destroying them by kicking them out of your organization, i.e. not associating with them?

I'm talking of more than Sterling.

I mean people who have to live under a glaring spotlight and have people with a certain mentality harass and abuse them.

Their lives can be made hell and they lose a big chunk of their lives because of it. Noone has that right.

Don't want to live under the spotlight? Don't be a public figure.

Don't want to face harassment and criticism? Tough, free speech goes both ways.

Actually, legally, you have as much right to criticism somebody as they have to criticize you, and you have a stronger right to not associate with them than they have to associate with you.

[Text People]

I'm talking of more than Sterling.

I mean people who have to live under a glaring spotlight and have people with a certain mentality harass and abuse them.

Their lives can be made hell and they lose a big chunk of their lives because of it. Noone has that right.

No one forced Mr. Sterling to say the things he said on the recording. When one lives in under a glaring spotlight, one ought to be a little circumspect.

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No one forced Mr. Sterling to say the things he said on the recording. When one lives in under a glaring spotlight, one ought to be a little circumspect.

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

Not really, no.

[Text People]

I'm talking of more than Sterling.

I mean people who have to live under a glaring spotlight and have people with a certain mentality harass and abuse them.

Their lives can be made hell and they lose a big chunk of their lives because of it. Noone has that right.

Actually, legally, you have as much right to criticism somebody as they have to criticize you, and you have a stronger right to not associate with them than they have to associate with you.

Uh, no, I don't, neither do you.

There is little freedom of association any longer...

[Zottistan]

No one forced Mr. Sterling to say the things he said on the recording. When one lives in under a glaring spotlight, one ought to be a little circumspect.

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

It's not a responsibility in the first place. He said stuff that people didn't like, and people got mad.

[Zottistan]

Actually, legally, you have as much right to criticism somebody as they have to criticize you, and you have a stronger right to not associate with them than they have to associate with you.

Uh, no, I don't, neither do you.

There is little freedom of association any longer...

You don't legally have the right to criticize people...?

And you're looking to take away what's left?

[Text People]

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

It's not a responsibility in the first place. He said stuff that people didn't like, and people got mad.

BTW, harassment, laws against it goes both ways too.

[Text People]

Uh, no, I don't, neither do you.

There is little freedom of association any longer...

You don't legally have the right to criticize people...?

And you're looking to take away what's left?

No, freedom of association is almost dead in the water for you and me....not criticism.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You don't legally have the right to criticize people...?

And you're looking to take away what's left?

No, freedom of association is almost dead in the water for you and me....not criticism.

How is it "almost dead"?

[Text People]

No, freedom of association is almost dead in the water for you and me....not criticism.

How is it "almost dead"?

Use your imagination.

[Farnhamia]

No one forced Mr. Sterling to say the things he said on the recording. When one lives in under a glaring spotlight, one ought to be a little circumspect.

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

In his home, talking (on the phone, I think) to a woman, his mistress, basically, who was being sued by his wife and who had told him she would get even with him. Just talking to her was stupid, let alone bitching at her about associating with black people.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How is it "almost dead"?

Use your imagination.

No, because I'm not even going to bother in thought-fucking experiments.

Again, how is it "almost dead"?

[Text People]

He was in his home!

That's where any responsibility to the outside world ends.

In his home, talking (on the phone, I think) to a woman, his mistress, basically, who was being sued by his wife and who had told him she would get even with him. Just talking to her was stupid, let alone bitching at her about associating with black people.

In my state, it's illegal to record anyone on a phone.

[Text People]

Use your imagination.

No, because I'm not even going to bother in thought-fucking experiments.

Again, how is it "almost dead"?

Reason it out.

I'm sure you're bright enough.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

In his home, talking (on the phone, I think) to a woman, his mistress, basically, who was being sued by his wife and who had told him she would get even with him. Just talking to her was stupid, let alone bitching at her about associating with black people.

In my state, it's illegal to record anyone on a phone.

Which state is this?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, because I'm not even going to bother in thought-fucking experiments.

Again, how is it "almost dead"?

Reason it out.

I'm sure you're bright enough.

So you have nothing, got it.