Old Man Kills Intruder

[Ethel mermania]

what is there to be nullified?

LEgally, he should be convicted with murder, but you could say it doesn't make sense and choose innocent...

i had to reread wiki, but ok i see it. my understanding was nullification was only of law, and i think the law is fine as is. wiki says it can apply to circumstance as well.

[Gaiserin]

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

He did, in fact, chase after them with his gun. That is literally what happened.

Did not notice that before, so I'll retrieve that as an argument.

Where as he shot intentionally or not, can't be known. Either way he had the right of self-defense in this case.

[MERIZoC]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

[Gauthier]

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

How are people who are running away a threat to the person they're running away from?

Maybe they were wearing hoodies and carrying Skittles and iced tea?

[Rephesus]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

Because of a legal technicality that makes killing intruders who attack you 'murder'

[Ionian Knights]

LEgally, he should be convicted with murder, but you could say it doesn't make sense and choose innocent...

i had to reread wiki, but ok i see it. my understanding was nullification was only of law, and i think the law is fine as is. wiki says it can apply to circumstance as well.

CGP Grey makes it easy to get

How are people who are running away a threat to the person they're running away from?

Maybe they were wearing hoodies and carrying Skittles and iced tea?

Oh geez... lets keep that locked up please?

[Ethel mermania]

what is there to be nullified?

The law against killing people, presumably.

according to wikipedia you can nullify based on circumstance, (which i didnt know).

[Scomagia]

The problem is, that this man has no regard for the law. Personally, he should suffer a fine for taking the law into his own hands. You only do that when the police suck at their jobs. While I've never used a gun, how hard is it to aim for the knees? Is it that hard to aim to stop them and not kill them? Plus, while she was not Pregnant, for all he knew she could have been. He does not deserve any jail time, but a heavy fine.

You shoot to kill. Every-time you shoot it is shooting to kill. You cannot reliably hit anything but the center of mass in a combat situation. Do you know what would happen if you shoot for the knees but hit just a wee bit higher?

[Ifreann]

The problem is, that this man has no regard for the law. Personally, he should suffer a fine for taking the law into his own hands. You only do that when the police suck at their jobs. While I've never used a gun, how hard is it to aim for the knees? Is it that hard to aim to stop them and not kill them?

It's easy to aim for the knees. It's very hard to hit them, especially if the person is running, and even if you do it them, that's still a very serious and possibly fatal injury.

Plus, while she was not Pregnant, for all he knew she could have been. He does not deserve any jail time, but a heavy fine.

I doubt any law he could be convicted of breaking could possibly receive a fine.

[Scomagia]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

Because shooting someone who is running away from you is not protected by the law.

[Ethel mermania]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

in most states, if someone dies during your commission of a felony, its an automatic murder 1 charge.

[Rephesus]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

Because shooting someone who is running away from you is not protected by the law.

And self defence is.

Thus the argument.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

At least it wasn't the south, or he probably could have claimed stand your ground. Seriously, shooting while they are in his house, thats one thing. shooting while they are fleeing, thats just wrong. This man should go to jail.

He's a hero.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

He shot her in the back as she was trying to get away and pleading for her life. That's not stopping a threat. That's executing someone who's retreating/surrendering.

[Rephesus]

If he shot them while they were still on his property this would have gone a lot better for him.

[Ethel mermania]

Because shooting someone who is running away from you is not protected by the law.

And self defence is.

Thus the argument.

once the assaliant turns and flees, its no longer self defense.

[New Acardia]

It seems to me that some people want to turn this thug bitch in to the victim . And the old man that this thug bitch beat in to a criminal for defending himself .
If people get killed in the process of commenting a crime . That's there tough luck one the hazards of being a criminal .

[Kainesia]

So they were running away and he kept shooting? That's not self-defense lol.

He shot the woman, who proceeded to say she was pregnant and he replied with a second shot to her back. Charming fellow.

Sounds like me... In RPGs

[Ifreann]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

If someone dies in the commission of a felony, everyone complicit in that felony can be charged with murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule

[SuperFruitland]

If that woman was really pregnant, then she shouldn't have been robbing a house and beating an elderly person. End of story.

[Gaiserin]

How are people who are running away a threat to the person they're running away from?

Is that a rhetorical question? Because obviously they can be, you see ranged weaponry does exist.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

And self defence is.

Thus the argument.

once the assaliant turns and flees, its no longer self defense.

I'd consider it self-defense. Never know if they're going to go back and grab a weapon.

It stops being self-defense if they surrender and lay down on the floor.

We don't need any more criminals living in this World.

[Ethel mermania]

If that woman was really pregnant, then she shouldn't have been robbing a house and beating an elderly person. End of story.

so its ok as long as she is not pregnant?

[MERIZoC]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

Because shooting someone who is running away from you is not protected by the law.

No, the other burglar is being charged.

Adams, the alleged accomplice, fled the scene, according to Greer and Chief McDonnell. He was later arrested and charged Friday with five felony counts, including murder in Miller's death, residential robbery , burglary, grand theft firearm and possession of a firearm by a felon. He's currently jailed on $1.25 million bond.

[MERIZoC]

…Wait, why the fuck is the other guy being charged with murder?

If someone dies in the commission of a felony, everyone complicit in that felony can be charged with murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule

That's fucking stupid.