Old Man Kills Intruder

[Scomagia]

Only if they pose an immediate danger to your life. They were running away from his property when he plugged her.

They were escaping a crime scene with his possessions after assaulting him. That's hardly an innocent exit.

Whether it is innocent or not is irrelevant.

[Gaiserin]

It is bit concerning that you might get thrown into jail for defending your live and property.

Also;

The woman was not pregnant, Ed Winter of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN on Friday

[Scomagia]

It is bit concerning that you might get thrown into jail for defending your live and property.

Also;

The woman was not pregnant, Ed Winter of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office told CNN on Friday

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

[Ifreann]

It would be ridiculous for a person proven in court to be so dangerous to be allowed go free.


What makes you think it's possible for a judge to just throw out a case for not reason?

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The DA's office could decline to pursue charges, I imagine.

Is it likely that they would decline? I could see them going either way. In a more reasonable country a conviction wouldn't be difficult but here in the states I highly doubt he'd be convicted. That motivates the DA's office not to pursue, doesn't it?

Yeah, if they think losing is a foregone conclusion then they probably wouldn't bother going to trial.

[Rephesus]

It is bit concerning that you might get thrown into jail for defending your live and property.

Also;

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

So shooting an intruder who just attacked you and is fleeing with your possessions is cold blooded murder?

Great logic you have there.

Next time I'm mugged I'll be sure to just throw them my wallet and bend over.

[Scomagia]

Is it likely that they would decline? I could see them going either way. In a more reasonable country a conviction wouldn't be difficult but here in the states I highly doubt he'd be convicted. That motivates the DA's office not to pursue, doesn't it?

Yeah, if they think losing is a foregone conclusion then they probably wouldn't bother going to trial.

Given how this country is, I suspect that's what will happen.

[Ifreann]

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

So shooting an intruder who just attacked you and is fleeing with your possessions is cold blooded murder?

Great logic you have there.

Seems fine to me. His life wasn't in danger, and possessions aren't worth killing over.

Next time I'm mugged I'll be sure to just throw them my wallet and bend over.

Throwing them your wallet and running would be a better idea. Much better than fighting back, anyway.

[Scomagia]

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

So shooting an intruder who just attacked you and is fleeing with your possessions is cold blooded murder?

Great logic you have there.

Next time I'm mugged I'll be sure to just throw them my wallet and bend over.

I don't recall calling it cold blooded murder. Highly interesting that you'd misrepresent my opinion like that.

[Ethel mermania]

its not self denfense as they were running away
its not castle doctrine as they fled the home

that said, its not cold blooded as it was still in the heat of the moment. as he was injured by them in the still ongoing incident.

the prosecutor should present to a grand jury, but if i were on that jury i would decline to indict..

[Ionian Knights]

Yeah, if they think losing is a foregone conclusion then they probably wouldn't bother going to trial.

Given how this country is, I suspect that's what will happen.

Judge by one's peers...

Kind of leads to some sympathy toward an old man...

May be wrong, but that is how we decided judgement.

[Ionian Knights]

its not self denfense as they were running away
its not castle doctrine as they fled the home

that said, its not cold blooded as it was still in the heat of the moment. as he was injured by them in the still ongoing incident.

the prosecutor should present to a grand jury, but if i were on that jury i would decline to indict..

I'd nullify, but then again, I'm not supposed to know Jury Nullification

[Gaiserin]

It is bit concerning that you might get thrown into jail for defending your live and property.

Also;

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

[Scomagia]

Given how this country is, I suspect that's what will happen.

Judge by one's peers...

Kind of leads to some sympathy toward an old man...

May be wrong, but that is how we decided judgement.

The fact is that you'd be hard pressed to find a jury that would convict him even if he shot her twice and then threw in a headshot.

[Rephesus]

A jury would likely rule in favour of the victim, people don't tend to like burglars. That pregnancy lie won't go over well either.

[Scomagia]

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

He did, in fact, chase after them with his gun. That is literally what happened.

[Gauthier]

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

He did, in fact, chase after them with his gun. That is literally what happened.

There's nothing more enjoyable than people whose grasp of Castle Doctrine looks more like the behavior of a kid playing Call of Duty.

[Ethel mermania]

its not self denfense as they were running away
its not castle doctrine as they fled the home

that said, its not cold blooded as it was still in the heat of the moment. as he was injured by them in the still ongoing incident.

the prosecutor should present to a grand jury, but if i were on that jury i would decline to indict..

I'd nullify, but then again, I'm not supposed to know Jury Nullification

what is there to be nullified?

[Ifreann]

He didn't defend his life. Stop saying that.

And we know she wasn't pregnant.

Ahem, he did defend. He pulled out a gun which made them back off, and shot them which made them run away. Either one of them could have carried a gun themselves, so the argument that they were not a thread when the stop beating him doesn't work. He didn't chase after them with his gun, therefore only shooting them in self defense.

Stop being ignorant.

How are people who are running away a threat to the person they're running away from?

[Ionian Knights]

I'd nullify, but then again, I'm not supposed to know Jury Nullification

what is there to be nullified?

LEgally, he should be convicted with murder, but you could say it doesn't make sense and choose innocent...

[Ifreann]

I'd nullify, but then again, I'm not supposed to know Jury Nullification

what is there to be nullified?

The law against killing people, presumably.

[Scomagia]

what is there to be nullified?

LEgally, he should be convicted with murder, but you could say it doesn't make sense and choose innocent...

I'd argue, given the circumstances, that he should be convicted of manslaughter, rather than murder.

[Rephesus]

He did, in fact, chase after them with his gun. That is literally what happened.

There's nothing more enjoyable than people whose grasp of Castle Doctrine looks more like the behavior of a kid playing Call of Duty.

Comparisons a victimized and badly injured old man defending his property to a Kid playing COD is pretty immature and ignorant. This wasn't a game.

[Ionian Knights]

LEgally, he should be convicted with murder, but you could say it doesn't make sense and choose innocent...

I'd argue, given the circumstances, that he should be convicted of manslaughter, rather than murder.

eh... true.

[Scomagia]

There's nothing more enjoyable than people whose grasp of Castle Doctrine looks more like the behavior of a kid playing Call of Duty.

Comparisons a victimized and badly injured old man defending his property to a Kid playing COD is pretty immature and ignorant. This wasn't a game.

He isn't referring to the accused.....

[Toronina]

The problem is, that this man has no regard for the law. Personally, he should suffer a fine for taking the law into his own hands. You only do that when the police suck at their jobs. While I've never used a gun, how hard is it to aim for the knees? Is it that hard to aim to stop them and not kill them? Plus, while she was not Pregnant, for all he knew she could have been. He does not deserve any jail time, but a heavy fine.