I'd find it hilarious if the old man claimed he felt genuinely threatened by the unborn fetus. Just to see the looks on the face of anti-abortion activists.
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by Gauthier » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:25 am

by Scomagia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:25 am
Ionian Knights wrote:Ifreann wrote:He wouldn't. He'd be sent to a secure mental hospital until he was no longer a danger to himself or others.
I very much doubt that a judge can just throw a case out for no good reason. Not without getting booted off the bench.
I don't tell with insane people... so I wouldn't know.
And I'm a not judge, so I can only say with possibilities and probabilities.
by Herrebrugh » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:25 am

by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:25 am

by Scomagia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:26 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:It's simple: if you break houses and assault people, you run the risk of being shot by the people you rob and assault. I have zero sympathy for this woman, she got what she deserved.

by Ionian Knights » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:27 am
Herrebrugh wrote:Ionian Knights wrote:
Hey, I'm not saying it. I'm just explaining a possible thought process...
If she was truly pregnant, oh geez... that shitstorm...
No, I mean I was specifically referring to that part. I don't see how "I think he is saying something along the lines of pleading the belly." is an answer to that...

by Ionian Knights » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:27 am

by Salus Maior » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:28 am

by Ifreann » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:29 am
Ionian Knights wrote:Ifreann wrote:He wouldn't. He'd be sent to a secure mental hospital until he was no longer a danger to himself or others.
I very much doubt that a judge can just throw a case out for no good reason. Not without getting booted off the bench.
I don't tell with insane people... so I wouldn't know.
And I'm a not judge, so I can only say with possibilities and probabilities.

by Scomagia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:29 am
Salus Maior wrote:It is regrettable, but the woman is responsible for her own death. They shouldn't have broken into that man's home and assaulted him.
And besides, what evidence is there that the woman is actually pregnant? Or that the man "double tapped? Firing twice doesn't necessarily mean he shot her once and then walked over to her to shoot her again.
by Herrebrugh » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:29 am

by Ionian Knights » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:30 am
Ifreann wrote:Ionian Knights wrote:
I don't tell with insane people... so I wouldn't know.
It would be ridiculous for a person proven in court to be so dangerous to be allowed go free.And I'm a not judge, so I can only say with possibilities and probabilities.
What makes you think it's possible for a judge to just throw out a case for not reason?Scomagia wrote:It's the DA that has discretion here, right?
The DA's office could decline to pursue charges, I imagine.

by Ifreann » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:30 am
Salus Maior wrote:It is regrettable, but the woman is responsible for her own death. They shouldn't have broken into that man's home and assaulted him.
And besides, what evidence is there that the woman is actually pregnant? Or that the man "double tapped? Firing twice doesn't necessarily mean he shot her once and then walked over to her to shoot her again.

by Salus Maior » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:30 am

by New Acardia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:31 am

by Scomagia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:31 am
Ifreann wrote:Ionian Knights wrote:
I don't tell with insane people... so I wouldn't know.
It would be ridiculous for a person proven in court to be so dangerous to be allowed go free.And I'm a not judge, so I can only say with possibilities and probabilities.
What makes you think it's possible for a judge to just throw out a case for not reason?Scomagia wrote:It's the DA that has discretion here, right?
The DA's office could decline to pursue charges, I imagine.
by Herrebrugh » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:31 am

by Rephesus » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:31 am
Scomagia wrote:Salus Maior wrote:It is regrettable, but the woman is responsible for her own death. They shouldn't have broken into that man's home and assaulted him.
And besides, what evidence is there that the woman is actually pregnant? Or that the man "double tapped? Firing twice doesn't necessarily mean he shot her once and then walked over to her to shoot her again.
She is not responsible for her own death, the man who shot her is.

by Salus Maior » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:32 am
Scomagia wrote:Salus Maior wrote:It is regrettable, but the woman is responsible for her own death. They shouldn't have broken into that man's home and assaulted him.
And besides, what evidence is there that the woman is actually pregnant? Or that the man "double tapped? Firing twice doesn't necessarily mean he shot her once and then walked over to her to shoot her again.
She is not responsible for her own death, the man who shot her is.

by Carriberra » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:32 am

by Scomagia » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:33 am
Rephesus wrote:Scomagia wrote:She is not responsible for her own death, the man who shot her is.
She is responsible for getting herself into that situation. She's responsible for putting herself at risk, she's responsible for assaulting and beating an old man, she's responsible for breaking and entering, trespassing, assault, vandalism and countless other things. She was shot because she was a criminal who happened to attack an armed man. Not because she was some innocent bystander.

by Rephesus » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:33 am
Scomagia wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Law in the ideological/philosophical sense? Or in the literal sense?
I'm fairly certain that if someone breaks into your home, (in the U.S, anyway), its perfectly legal to shoot them.
Only if they pose an immediate danger to your life. They were running away from his property when he plugged her.
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