Old Man Kills Intruder

[Scomagia]

So you come back to kill me, thereby risking a much greater sentence and a higher likelihood of being caught, so as to prevent yourself from the relatively small possibility of going to prison for a few years? Sounds like bullshit to me.

if someone can identify your face, your chances of getting sentenced at all is much higher.

Also, you're assuming these criminals are rational. They've already displayed psychopathic behavior when they chose to victimize an old man, break into his house to steal things from them, and beat the hell out of him. Rationality is the last thing we can assume of these types of dangerous criminals... their aggressiveness and propensity for violence on the other hand, can be assumed. They were dangerous, running or not.

You aren't qualified to diagnose Psychopathy in people you've never fucking met.

[Scomagia]

Law =/= a moral right.

Laws are mutable.

Can I ask you a question?

Would you allow someone who had just broken into your house and had been stealing from you to get away with no punishment?

If by no punishment you mean not killing them and calling the police instead, my answer would be yes. I'm suspecting they feel similar.

[Ifreann]

And the argument about 'they will never return' is BS. This Old man's home was burglarized 4 times. 4. All 4 times by different people with no knowledge of the previous events? Highly unlikely. It's pretty obvious what was going on, and he put a stop to it.

Of course each set of people didn't know about the previous ones. Why would someone want to rob a place that's already been robbed? The first group probably got all the good stuff.

[Montenalba]

Can I ask you a question?

Would you allow someone who had just broken into your house and had been stealing from you to get away with no punishment?

If by no punishment you mean not killing them and calling the police instead, my answer would be yes. I'm suspecting they feel similar.

It's easy to say you'd do something when you haven't been in the situation yourself.

[Scomagia]

And the argument about 'they will never return' is BS. This Old man's home was burglarized 4 times. 4. All 4 times by different people with no knowledge of the previous events? Highly unlikely. It's pretty obvious what was going on, and he put a stop to it.

The argument isn't that they'd never return, it's that they did not pose an immediate danger. Which they didn't. There are a multitude of reasons why his place got jacked 4 times beyond the burglars being the same each time.

[Rephesus]

Spur of the moment. And if successful the likelihood of getting caught diminishes rapidly. Assuming there were no other witnesses or camera footage, then it's very difficult to ID the intruder.

Yeah, the fact that you just shot me with my own gun isn't going to attract the cops and the attention of anyone in the nearby area. That's not mentioning the fact that you're leaving prints on the gun(Unless you waste time wiping it down) and that, in the struggle initially described, I almost certainly inflicted defensive wounds on you, thereby causing you to shed DNA evidence on scene. Oh, and there's the fact that shooting someone at close range is going to cover you in blood. Seriously, the situation you describe is so unlikely as to be irrelevant.

An old crippled man? Unlikely. And what makes you think I need to shoot you? I have the physical superiority, a kick or bludgeon to the head would do. As for the gun I could take it. It doesn't say anything about him hitting the attackers back until they were shot, it's unlikely that you'd be able to hurt me badly enough to shed blood. As for smaller DNA, that takes weeks to process and honestly the police prioritize cases. The 4th burglary of the home of an elderly man isn't exactly as pressing as first degree. DNA results take time, plus you are assuming my DNA is in the system. If I did she's DNA, it would mostly be before I ran away, making the point moot.

You're grasping for straws, the man prevented future attacks on him and his home.

[Scomagia]

And the argument about 'they will never return' is BS. This Old man's home was burglarized 4 times. 4. All 4 times by different people with no knowledge of the previous events? Highly unlikely. It's pretty obvious what was going on, and he put a stop to it.

Of course each set of people didn't know about the previous ones. Why would someone want to rob a place that's already been robbed? The first group probably got all the good stuff.

It's entirely possible the first burglars made a rather messy entry, damaging a window or door, thus making access for the later burglars much easier.

[Ifreann]

If by no punishment you mean not killing them and calling the police instead, my answer would be yes. I'm suspecting they feel similar.

It's easy to say you'd do something when you haven't been in the situation yourself.

Why did you ask if you were just going to dismiss the answer?

[Republika Srpska Party]

[Scomagia]

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[Scomagia]

Yeah, the fact that you just shot me with my own gun isn't going to attract the cops and the attention of anyone in the nearby area. That's not mentioning the fact that you're leaving prints on the gun(Unless you waste time wiping it down) and that, in the struggle initially described, I almost certainly inflicted defensive wounds on you, thereby causing you to shed DNA evidence on scene. Oh, and there's the fact that shooting someone at close range is going to cover you in blood. Seriously, the situation you describe is so unlikely as to be irrelevant.

An old crippled man? Unlikely. And what makes you think I need to shoot you? I have the physical superiority, a kick or bludgeon to the head would do. As for the gun I could take it. It doesn't say anything about him hitting the attackers back until they were shot, it's unlikely that you'd be able to hurt me badly enough to shed blood. As for smaller DNA, that takes weeks to process and honestly the police prioritize cases. The 4th burglary of the home of an elderly man isn't exactly as pressing as first degree. DNA results take time, plus you are assuming my DNA is in the system. If I did she's DNA, it would mostly be before I ran away, making the point moot.

You're grasping for straws, the man prevented future attacks on him and his home.

You are no longer keeping to the boundaries of your original hypothetical and I'm the one grasping at straws?

[Ifreann]

Of course each set of people didn't know about the previous ones. Why would someone want to rob a place that's already been robbed? The first group probably got all the good stuff.

It's entirely possible the first burglars made a rather messy entry, damaging a window or door, thus making access for the later burglars much easier.

Sounds possible.

[Scomagia]

It's entirely possible the first burglars made a rather messy entry, damaging a window or door, thus making access for the later burglars much easier.

Sounds possible.

It sounds, to me anyway, far more likely than two people going back to burglarize the same place four times.

[Rephesus]

His house was invaded 4 times. He was attacked. There's absolutely nothing proving it won't happen a 5th time.

[Katganistan]

In many places, shooting her after she left the premises is a crime.

Shooting her twice after she was leaving and cried out probably won't go well for him.

[Scomagia]

His house was invaded 4 times. He was attacked. There's absolutely nothing proving it won't happen a 5th time.

There's nothing proving it will.

[Rephesus]

His house was invaded 4 times. He was attacked. There's absolutely nothing proving it won't happen a 5th time.

There's nothing proving it will.

It happened 4 times before. You'd be hard pressed to find a property in the USA that has been burglarized 4 times. Generally speaking that makes it vulnerable to a fifth.

[Ifreann]

His house was invaded 4 times. He was attacked. There's absolutely nothing proving it won't happen a 5th time.

Yes indeed, shooting this woman has not prevented a possible fifth burglary. In fact, a house that's empty because the sole occupant is in prison would be very easy to rob.

[Scomagia]

There's nothing proving it will.

It happened 4 times before. You'd be hard pressed to find a property in the USA that has been burglarized 4 times. Generally speaking that makes it vulnerable to a fifth.

Killing her didn't change that.

[Rephesus]

His house was invaded 4 times. He was attacked. There's absolutely nothing proving it won't happen a 5th time.

Yes indeed, shooting this woman has not prevented a possible fifth burglary. In fact, a house that's empty because the sole occupant is in prison would be very easy to rob.

If he wasn't in prison then it would, actually. Especially if the probable assumption that the couple were the previous burglars was true.

Now if he simply did nothing and let them get away, it's more likely that they'd rob him again, or kill him.

[Scomagia]

Yes indeed, shooting this woman has not prevented a possible fifth burglary. In fact, a house that's empty because the sole occupant is in prison would be very easy to rob.

If he wasn't in prison then it would, actually. Especially if the probable assumption that the couple were the previous burglars was true.

Now if he simply did nothing and let them get away, it's more likely that they'd rob him again, or kill him.

I'd scarcely call that a probable assumption. Plausible? Yes.

[Gauthier]

By that logic I should be able to shoot literally anyone who commits any crime against me because they might come back with a gun.

I think so yes.

The law should be rewritten so that it doesn't favor and protect criminals. Victims of crimes should not be revictimized by the law for avenging their honor.

You heard it here folks; God Kefka wants to legalize honor killings.

[Gauthier]

I wonder how many of the people all but wishing the old man emptied a clip into the burglars are bitching about police militarization?

[Infected Mushroom]

I think so yes.

The law should be rewritten so that it doesn't favor and protect criminals. Victims of crimes should not be revictimized by the law for avenging their honor.

You heard it here folks; God Kefka wants to legalize honor killings.

what's an ''honor killing''?

[Rephesus]

I think so yes.

The law should be rewritten so that it doesn't favor and protect criminals. Victims of crimes should not be revictimized by the law for avenging their honor.

You heard it here folks; God Kefka wants to legalize honor killings.

I'm sure the hundreds of innocent girls in India and Pakistan who are 'honour' killed annually would be fine hearing you just compared brutal cold-blooded murder of innocents to the escalation of a burglary.

(Yes, that was sarcasm)