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Are you Pro Palestine or Israel and Do you support Hamas or Not

Pro Palestine
357
28%
Pro Isael
341
27%
Neutral
160
13%
I don't really give a fuck
98
8%
Pro Hamas
26
2%
You don't support Hamas
257
20%
Whatever
37
3%
 
Total votes : 1276

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Calimera II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And? I can list off Nazi collaborators from every nation in Europe. Does that mean those nations are all Nazi's today and have links to the Nazi party?


PLO members from now agree with what Hitler did.


I can list off political parties from most nations in Europe that agree with what Hitler did. Does that mean the nations they are from are Nazi's?
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Keyboard Warriors
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Calimera II wrote:
Merizoc wrote:….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

PLO has been a political movement for nothing other than the liberation of Palestine and a co-existence with Israel for the last 20 years. We can all see you're trying to throw shit on the PLO, but the shit you're digging up is too old to matter.
Yes.

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:
Merizoc wrote:….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

Italy is no longer fascist.

Well there you go.

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Grand Russian Federation
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Pro Israel, because I believe it is common courtesy to not attack others with rockets.
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Nierr
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Postby Nierr » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:40 am

Calimera II wrote:
Merizoc wrote:….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

You mean the PLO with Mahmoud Abbas as its head, a man who condemns the Holocaust as the 'most heinous crime in history'?

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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
PLO members from now agree with what Hitler did.


I can list off political parties from most nations in Europe that agree with what Hitler did. Does that mean the nations they are from are Nazi's?


.......

If they agree with what Hitler did they are actually Nazi sympathizers.. That's quite logical.

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Russian Socialist Soviet States
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Merizoc wrote:
Calimera II wrote:PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

Nazi Germany had elections.
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Keyboard Warriors
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Founded: Mar 17, 2014
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Merizoc wrote:
Calimera II wrote:PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

Well, Gaza is sorta fascist.
Yes.

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Keyboard Warriors
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Russian Socialist Soviet States wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

Nazi Germany had elections.

"elections"
Yes.

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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Nierr wrote:
Calimera II wrote:PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

You mean the PLO with Mahmoud Abbas as its head, a man who condemns the Holocaust as the 'most heinous crime in history'?

And that's why the PLO is full of members sympathizing with what Hitler did.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Founded: Aug 08, 2011
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:41 am

Calimera II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I can list off political parties from most nations in Europe that agree with what Hitler did. Does that mean the nations they are from are Nazi's?


.......

If they agree with what Hitler did they are actually Nazi sympathizers.. That's quite logical.


Does it mean the entire nation is Nazi sympathizers and has links to the Nazi party?
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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
.......

If they agree with what Hitler did they are actually Nazi sympathizers.. That's quite logical.


Does it mean the entire nation is Nazi sympathizers and has links to the Nazi party?


My god. I wasn't even claiming that.

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Alyakia
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Founded: Jul 12, 2011
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Postby Alyakia » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 am

Calimera II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The PLO did not exist at that point and if one Palestinian saying we supported the Nazi's means the PLO has links to the Nazi's then every nation in Europe has links to the Nazi party.

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
During World War II he collaborated with both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by making propagandistic radio broadcasts and by helping Germans recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. On meeting Adolf Hitler he requested backing for Arab independence and support in opposing the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish national home. At war's end, he came under French protection, and then sought refuge in Cairo to avoid prosecution.


>arab independence

yes like i said most of the arabs ended up loosely allied with the fascists in europe. you think that you of "i don't support pinochet i just think he was the best option" would understand the concept of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

Well, Gaza is sorta fascist.

Gaza has elections as well.

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 am

Calimera II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Does it mean the entire nation is Nazi sympathizers and has links to the Nazi party?


My god. I wasn't even claiming that.

RSSS was.

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Keyboard Warriors
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Founded: Mar 17, 2014
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 am

Merizoc wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Well, Gaza is sorta fascist.

Gaza has elections as well.

"elections"
Yes.

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Calimera II
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Founded: Jan 03, 2013
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:43 am

Alyakia wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
During World War II he collaborated with both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by making propagandistic radio broadcasts and by helping Germans recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. On meeting Adolf Hitler he requested backing for Arab independence and support in opposing the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish national home. At war's end, he came under French protection, and then sought refuge in Cairo to avoid prosecution.


>arab independence

yes like i said most of the arabs ended up loosely allied with the fascists in europe. you think that you of "i don't support pinochet i just think he was the best option" would understand the concept of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".


I do not agree, but agreeing with you is a rare sight.

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South Panem
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Founded: Nov 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby South Panem » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

I am and continue to be pro-Israel. Most people seem to forget that half of Palestine's government partly consists of the Hamas, a recognized terrorist organization. Israel has a right to defend itself from the unrelenting barrage of missiles from the Gaza Strip, and when retaliating exercises far more effort to prevent civilian deaths than any other government in the world. When America was targeted by terrorists, they flew half way around the world and invaded two countries, causing the death of over 60,000 civilians. They did not use a knock on the roof method, they did not even warn civilians of pending missile attacks. But did people even bat an eye? No. Israel remains the target of double-standards and hypocritical criticism. Israel should, and has a right, to exist. They have been indigenous to the region for thousands of years, longer than the Palestinians. Also, Israel IS a secular democracy.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Founded: Aug 08, 2011
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

Calimera II wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Does it mean the entire nation is Nazi sympathizers and has links to the Nazi party?


My god. I wasn't even claiming that.


Better question then, does the fact that some members of the PLO support the Third Reich make them all Nazi's? Cuz that's what I'm getting out of this.
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Peachany
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Founded: Jul 14, 2014
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Postby Peachany » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

Israel commited crimes agaist humanity.
I'm against any sort of violence!! Stop Israelian Imperialism!
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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

Merizoc wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
My god. I wasn't even claiming that.

RSSS was.

Then it should be aimed at RSSS and not at me. As example, I am not going to debate with you about something you didn't said.

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Nierr
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Postby Nierr » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

Calimera II wrote:
Nierr wrote:You mean the PLO with Mahmoud Abbas as its head, a man who condemns the Holocaust as the 'most heinous crime in history'?

And that's why the PLO is full of members sympathizing with what Hitler did.

And the Knesset is full of members either sympathetic with or are outright advocating the ethnic cleansing of all 4.5 million Palestinians.

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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:44 am

Peachany wrote:Israel commited crimes agaist humanity.
I'm against any sort of violence!! Stop Israelian Imperialism!

If take your claim to be true, does it make Palestine crimes good?

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Vamtrl
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Founded: Oct 11, 2013
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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:45 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Gaza has elections as well.

"elections"


Yes. :?

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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:47 am

I find it really sad people are ignorant enough to split sides in this way.

This isn't goddamn American Idol.

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