Are you Pro Palestine or Israel

[Christiaanistan]

How in the fuck where kids playing football on a beach human shields?

Anytime you conduct military operations near civilian populations, for the purpose of attempting to deter your enemy from firing upon you, you are using human beings as shields. You are forcing your enemy to put civilian lives at risk in order to defend themselves from assault.

[Washington Resistance Army]

How in the fuck where kids playing football on a beach human shields? Where were the scary Hamas members?

One incident: http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/IDF- ... ied-363081

Israel actually investigates when something goes not according to the plan. Hamas doesn't investigate shit but supports terrorist acts by bombing residential areas in Israel.

Answer the question, show me where the Hamas members were. There were reporters all over the area and GASP no one saw any Hamas members with rockets or weapons dumps! All they saw was a bunch of children get murdered, and I don't want some bullshit IDF source that has two sentences saying we're looking into it, I want evidence.

[Alyakia]

people under rule of british empire/soviet union who wanted the british empire/soviet union to fall supported the people the most likely to make that happen. more on this later, brought to you by one of the most notoriously unreliable sources in the middle east.

[Guinneveere]

Neither. As hippyish as it sounds, and I'm no hippy, I'm pro-Humanity in this case.

I think what Israel's government is doing at the moment is morally reprehensible, and politically stupid. Aren't there over 500 civilians in Gaza killed so far, and about 1 in 5 are children ? It's very upsetting.
I would hope Israel would realise it needs to stop soon if it doesn't want the USA and the EU to turn against it.
I think Israel should use the Iron Dome to protect it's civilians, never retaliate, but show the world what it has to go through with Hamas controlled Gaza and show it's restraint to the world.
I also would hope that anyone who is vehemently opposed to Israel would realise it's surrounded by countries that hate it, and want to see it wiped off the map.

The Palestinian's need to be EQUALLY respected. They need land to build very much needed infrastructure, and there are a majority in those tiny pockets of land that just want to live in peace with their families, and live their lives like the rest f us, so anyone who is opposed to Palestine should realise that to ignore the legitimate plight of the Palestinians is ethnic cleansing. Full stop.

And don't bother replying to this post if you're a fanatical Pro-Palestinian/Pro-Iraeli. I'm not gonna argue with you.
Peace.

[Jimpuria]

I'm anti Palestinian and anti Israeli! Booths sides are evil!

[MERIZoC]

Hmmm. Then prove to me that Palestine is fascist.

The P.L.O has links to the Nazi Party.

[citation needed]

[Alexzanabbgggggg]

Hamas are bad (they were elected though), however, Israel did not need to intervene the way it did, they have the Iron Dome defense system, why do they have to kill hundreds of Palestinian's. Also Israel did kind of steal all the land they have.

Palestine



Israel



Damage done by Palestinian rocket


Damage done by Israeli F-16 strike


It is just not a fare contest, Israel know the rockets will do nothing, they just want more land

Maybe because Israel is richer?

How the hell can people 'feel bad for Hamas' because they have lesser weapons? Should people also feel bad for ISIS then, because they have lesser weapons than the US?

I do not fee; bad for Hamas, I feel bad for the people who are being blown up by another country.

[Alyakia]

How in the fuck where kids playing football on a beach human shields?

Anytime you conduct military operations near civilian populations, for the purpose of attempting to deter your enemy from firing upon you, you are using human beings as shields. You are forcing your enemy to put civilian lives at risk in order to defend themselves from assault.

shame there were no military operations on the beach in either incident :-(

you did wave it off.

what would happen if iran stole american or israel nuclear secrets?

Iran =/= Israel. And there isn't hard evidence.

lol. iran =/= israel. yes israel please steal our nuclear and military secrets and sell them to fucking china. it's ok! everyone spies on everyone! you like to accuse me of not accepting anything against palestine but at this point it's blatant you're just making excuses for israel.

[Oceasia]

I'm anti Palestinian and anti Israeli! Booths sides are evil!

Because YOLO

[Calimera II]

Have you accepted the fact that hundreds of Palestinians have died so far and the majority of them had no connection to Hamas?

Hamas is merely one significant party in power over a dozen others in Palestine that all want to burn the Jews and push them into the sea.

Hamas wants just the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZRkGqDLJjc

[Calimera II]

Anytime you conduct military operations near civilian populations, for the purpose of attempting to deter your enemy from firing upon you, you are using human beings as shields. You are forcing your enemy to put civilian lives at risk in order to defend themselves from assault.

shame there were no military operations on the beach in either incident :-(

Iran =/= Israel. And there isn't hard evidence.

lol. iran =/= israel. yes israel please steal our nuclear and military secrets and sell them to fucking china. it's ok! everyone spies on everyone! you like to accuse me of not accepting anything against palestine but at this point it's blatant you're just making excuses for israel.

I don't think it's ''Lol''

[Jimpuria]

I'm anti Palestinian and anti Israeli! Booths sides are evil!

Because YOLO

Yes, hehe

[Calimera II]

The P.L.O has links to the Nazi Party.

[citation needed]

Hard facts:

Palestinian Leader Farouk Qaddumi:

'' We Supported the Nazis in WWII''

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDDyJkQoFU

[Washington Resistance Army]

[citation needed]

Hard facts:

Palestinian Leader Farouk Qaddumi:

'' We Supported the Nazis in WWII''

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDDyJkQoFU

The PLO did not exist at that point and if one Palestinian saying we supported the Nazi's means the PLO has links to the Nazi's then every nation in Europe has links to the Nazi party.

[Alyakia]

[citation needed]

Hard facts:

Palestinian Leader Farouk Qaddumi:

'' We Supported the Nazis in WWII''

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDDyJkQoFU

even if we take that as 100% true that's not "links to the nazi party"

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

The P.L.O has links to the Nazi Party.

[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

[Calimera II]

Hard facts:

Palestinian Leader Farouk Qaddumi:

'' We Supported the Nazis in WWII''

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDDyJkQoFU

The PLO did not exist at that point and if one Palestinian saying we supported the Nazi's means the PLO has links to the Nazi's then every nation in Europe has links to the Nazi party.

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

During World War II he collaborated with both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by making propagandistic radio broadcasts and by helping Germans recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. On meeting Adolf Hitler he requested backing for Arab independence and support in opposing the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish national home. At war's end, he came under French protection, and then sought refuge in Cairo to avoid prosecution.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The PLO did not exist at that point and if one Palestinian saying we supported the Nazi's means the PLO has links to the Nazi's then every nation in Europe has links to the Nazi party.

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

During World War II he collaborated with both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by making propagandistic radio broadcasts and by helping Germans recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. On meeting Adolf Hitler he requested backing for Arab independence and support in opposing the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish national home. At war's end, he came under French protection, and then sought refuge in Cairo to avoid prosecution.

And? I can list off Nazi collaborators from every nation in Europe. Does that mean those nations are all Nazi's today and have links to the Nazi party?

[Keyboard Warriors]

Hamas are bad (they were elected though), however, Israel did not need to intervene the way it did, they have the Iron Dome defense system, why do they have to kill hundreds of Palestinian's.

It doesn't really matter how much damage the rockets do or how effective Iron Dome is. No country should be subject to attacks from within a foreign territory. And that is why I really hate this "Hamas does barely any damage" sentiment, because it's practically irrelevant in the context and is pretty antagonistic to those living in Israel all same.

Also Israel did kind of steal all the land they have.

A vast over-simplification of the early 20th century land deals and the Palestine mandate. Look, regardless of how the land was divided there are still 7 million jews living in that strip of land. "The land technically isn't yours, tough shit" isn't going to fix any problems in the middle east.

[MERIZoC]

[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

Italy is no longer fascist.

[Calimera II]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

[Calimera II]

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

During World War II he collaborated with both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by making propagandistic radio broadcasts and by helping Germans recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. On meeting Adolf Hitler he requested backing for Arab independence and support in opposing the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish national home. At war's end, he came under French protection, and then sought refuge in Cairo to avoid prosecution.

And? I can list off Nazi collaborators from every nation in Europe. Does that mean those nations are all Nazi's today and have links to the Nazi party?

PLO members from now agree with what Hitler did.

[MERIZoC]

….He's been dead for 40 years. Anyway, even if you could prove former links to the Nazi party, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. A lot of countries had links to the Nazi party. Is Italy currently fascist?

PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

[Calimera II]

PLO is a political movement which regularly shows sympathies for what Hitler did.

Even if we take your claim to be true, that doesn't mean Palestine is fascist. How can a country be fascist if they have elections?

O I wasn't supporting that. That aren't my words.