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Should Scriptures be seen as true no matter what?

Yes
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17%
No
127
62%
I don't know
12
6%
Maybe
30
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Postby Murkwood » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:33 pm

Lalaki wrote:I think a friendly group of agnostics, soft atheists, and religious moderates could build-up the most religiously tolerant society.

We already have one. It's called the USA.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

Catholicism has the fullness of the splendor of truth: The Bible and the Church Fathers agree!

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:40 pm

Serretes wrote:Just wondering, am I the only pagan that frequents this thread?


Here I thought Christians wiped them all out. 8)

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Postby Murkwood » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:41 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Serretes wrote:Just wondering, am I the only pagan that frequents this thread?


Here I thought Christians wiped them all out. 8)

Those Norse ones were plenty hard to kill, lemme tell you.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

Catholicism has the fullness of the splendor of truth: The Bible and the Church Fathers agree!

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Postby Serretes » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:41 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Serretes wrote:Just wondering, am I the only pagan that frequents this thread?


Here I thought Christians wiped them all out. 8)

We are a resilient bunch. Just many are not as resilient as myself.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:43 pm

Murkwood wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Here I thought Christians wiped them all out. 8)

Those Norse ones were plenty hard to kill, lemme tell you.


Those beards could stop arrows dead in their tracks.

I don't know whether to feel sad or happy or neutral that the Viking pagan beliefs were wiped out not because of war but because of assimilation into Christian society. It was a deft political move, and it didn't even loose them their culture, just their religion.

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Postby Othelos » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:50 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Lalaki wrote:I think a friendly group of agnostics, soft atheists, and religious moderates could build-up the most religiously tolerant society.

We already have one. It's called the USA Canada.

Fixed.
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Postby Murkwood » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:56 pm

Othelos wrote:
Murkwood wrote:We already have one. It's called the USA Canada.

Fixed.

Fine, we're second.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:00 pm

Othelos wrote:
Murkwood wrote:We already have one. It's called the USA Canada.

Fixed.


The United Fuck Yeahs of Canada.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:11 pm

Benuty wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote: :eyebrow: uh huh...

So you don't agree his actions led to anything significant?


that doesn't make him a traitor. technically one has to commit treason in order to do so....

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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:13 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Benuty wrote:So you don't agree his actions led to anything significant?


that doesn't make him a traitor. technically one has to commit treason in order to do so....

He did, and got Oliver North to take the rap for much of it.

Then again supporting the Khmer Rouge is technically worse in terms of morality.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:19 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Othelos wrote:Fixed.

Fine, we're second.


Not even close. The law is the thin curtain that prevents all out holy war in this country. we got sharia law constantly making a ruckus in the legal system, evangelicals wanting to pitch all non evangelicals and gays into the sea, atheists trying to scrub all public life of any semblance of religion, if there is religious tolerance it is only a thin veneer.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:21 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Fine, we're second.


Not even close. The law is the thin curtain that prevents all out holy war in this country. we got sharia law constantly making a ruckus in the legal system, evangelicals wanting to pitch all non evangelicals and gays into the sea, atheists trying to scrub all public life of any semblance of religion, if there is religious tolerance it is only a thin veneer.


... When has it ever been anything else anywhere else?

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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:23 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Not even close. The law is the thin curtain that prevents all out holy war in this country. we got sharia law constantly making a ruckus in the legal system, evangelicals wanting to pitch all non evangelicals and gays into the sea, atheists trying to scrub all public life of any semblance of religion, if there is religious tolerance it is only a thin veneer.


... When has it ever been anything else anywhere else?

It could have gotten better had we not let an anti-"communist" cult take over congress, and violate constitution.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:25 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Not even close. The law is the thin curtain that prevents all out holy war in this country. we got sharia law constantly making a ruckus in the legal system, evangelicals wanting to pitch all non evangelicals and gays into the sea, atheists trying to scrub all public life of any semblance of religion, if there is religious tolerance it is only a thin veneer.


... When has it ever been anything else anywhere else?


12 th century middle East. (not Jerusalem) Muslims and Christians lived in decent peace. Ibn Batuta was actually punished by Muslim authority for creating a ruckus with Christians.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:27 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
... When has it ever been anything else anywhere else?

It could have gotten better had we not let an anti-"communist" cult take over congress, and violate constitution.


Even in countries where they're relatively very tolerant, religion has cut such a gigantic swath that left such a leviathanic societal and ideological scar that it's reverberations are being felt even today. Church burnings in Norway, Buddhists fighting for independence, New Atheism, the homosexual crisis in Uganda, cults in Japan, etc. It's even in places where you wouldn't expect it because that's how much damage religion can cause.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:29 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Benuty wrote:It could have gotten better had we not let an anti-"communist" cult take over congress, and violate constitution.


Even in countries where they're relatively very tolerant, religion has cut such a gigantic swath that left such a leviathanic societal and ideological scar that it's reverberations are being felt even today. Church burnings in Norway, Buddhists fighting for independence, New Atheism, the homosexual crisis in Uganda, cults in Japan, etc. It's even in places where you wouldn't expect it because that's how much damage religion can cause.

Want to know what causes more damage than Religion?
...Death.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:31 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Even in countries where they're relatively very tolerant, religion has cut such a gigantic swath that left such a leviathanic societal and ideological scar that it's reverberations are being felt even today. Church burnings in Norway, Buddhists fighting for independence, New Atheism, the homosexual crisis in Uganda, cults in Japan, etc. It's even in places where you wouldn't expect it because that's how much damage religion can cause.

Want to know what causes more damage than Religion?
...Death.


What's so bad about death?

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Postby Bearon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:04 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Benuty wrote:Want to know what causes more damage than Religion?
...Death.


What's so bad about death?


It's sweet caress.
Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:06 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Benuty wrote:Want to know what causes more damage than Religion?
...Death.


What's so bad about death?


People are scared of it. There is a reason most religions include some form of spirit, some sort of afterlife or reincarnation.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:08 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Even in countries where they're relatively very tolerant, religion has cut such a gigantic swath that left such a leviathanic societal and ideological scar that it's reverberations are being felt even today. Church burnings in Norway, Buddhists fighting for independence, New Atheism, the homosexual crisis in Uganda, cults in Japan, etc. It's even in places where you wouldn't expect it because that's how much damage religion can cause.

Want to know what causes more damage than Religion?
...Death.


... And?

Are you equating death to religion?

I kind of agree, but that's kinda harsh, dontchathink?

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Postby Bearon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:08 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
What's so bad about death?


People are scared of it. There is a reason most religions include some form of spirit, some sort of afterlife or reincarnation.


Why be scared of the inevitable?
Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:09 pm

Bearon wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
People are scared of it. There is a reason most religions include some form of spirit, some sort of afterlife or reincarnation.


Why be scared of the inevitable?


Ain't that the million-dollar question?

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:11 pm

Bearon wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
People are scared of it. There is a reason most religions include some form of spirit, some sort of afterlife or reincarnation.


Why be scared of the inevitable?


Because being scared of death means people are more likely to survive to reproduce. basically fear of death has an evolutionary advantage.
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Postby Bearon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:11 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Bearon wrote:
Why be scared of the inevitable?


Ain't that the million-dollar question?


No it was rhetorical. You shouldn't be.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:17 pm

Bearon wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Ain't that the million-dollar question?


No it was rhetorical. You shouldn't be.


Because it's ironic that most religions ignore this "obviously" rhetorical question.

If they are virtuous according to their religion, they have control over death. When they die, their souls leave their body and become immortal, avoiding death.
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