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Should Scriptures be seen as true no matter what?

Yes
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No
127
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I don't know
12
6%
Maybe
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Postby Bearon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:08 pm

Benuty wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Who are you to tell me Doctor Who isn't real. Blasphemer :p .

You have Doctor Who they have Superwholock.


What would gods fanon be? Goddies? Goodies? ;3
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:09 pm

Bearon wrote:
Benuty wrote:You have Doctor Who they have Superwholock.


What would gods fanon be? Goddies? Goodies? ;3


The Goodies sounds right to me.
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Postby Bearon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:10 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Bearon wrote:
What would gods fanon be? Goddies? Goodies? ;3


The Goodies sounds right to me.


Doorknockers?
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:11 pm

Bearon wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
The Goodies sounds right to me.


Doorknockers?


I like the Goodies better, although...there is something really appropriate about the Doorknockers for particular annoying sects...
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:11 pm

My Little Pony The Adventures of Ragnarok.

Oh God what have I done.
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Postby Bearon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Bearon wrote:
Doorknockers?


I like the Goodies better, although...there is something really appropriate about the Doorknockers for particular annoying sects...


Whispers* Mormons...
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:12 pm

Benuty wrote:My Little Pony The Adventures of Ragnarok.

Oh God what have I done.


I'm kinda terrified now. Why did you have to come up with that idea?
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Postby Bearon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:13 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Benuty wrote:My Little Pony The Adventures of Ragnarok.

Oh God what have I done.


I'm kinda terrified now. Why did you have to come up with that idea?


Winter is coming...
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:17 pm

Bearon wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
I'm kinda terrified now. Why did you have to come up with that idea?


Winter is coming...


Do I at least get a wolf?
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Postby Benuty » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:18 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Bearon wrote:
Winter is coming...


Do I at least get a wolf?

That, and a cult of wolf worshipers.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:20 pm

Benuty wrote:
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Do I at least get a wolf?

That, and a cult of wolf worshipers.


So now I get to be a god. Awesome. I get to join some pretty awesome ranks here in NS.
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Postby Bearon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:14 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Benuty wrote:That, and a cult of wolf worshipers.


So now I get to be a god. Awesome. I get to join some pretty awesome ranks here in NS.


Join Fenrir for godhood today!
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:13 am

Discussion Question:
How can religious extremism be stopped?
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Postby Tuthina » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:23 am

Cyrisnia wrote:Discussion Question:
How can religious extremism be stopped?

Perhaps stop rejecting religions (in general, or particular ones) would help ease the perceived hostility between two? While naturally it is difficult to sympathise with people who force their beliefs on others through violence and coercion (which religions do a lot, admittedly), I fear that the stance of some hardline anti-theists are simply pushing people who would be cool with leaving others alone into extremism since their "opponents" are apparently calling for the destruction of what ones hold with great care. In a sense, it is like that one of the way to prevent <insert ideology> revolution is to stop prosecuting <insert ideology followers> and maybe not oppress <insert ideology focus> so much that they feel it is justified to use violence to overthrow the current system.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:45 am

Tuthina wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Discussion Question:
How can religious extremism be stopped?

Perhaps stop rejecting religions (in general, or particular ones) would help ease the perceived hostility between two? While naturally it is difficult to sympathise with people who force their beliefs on others through violence and coercion (which religions do a lot, admittedly), I fear that the stance of some hardline anti-theists are simply pushing people who would be cool with leaving others alone into extremism since their "opponents" are apparently calling for the destruction of what ones hold with great care. In a sense, it is like that one of the way to prevent <insert ideology> revolution is to stop prosecuting <insert ideology followers> and maybe not oppress <insert ideology focus> so much that they feel it is justified to use violence to overthrow the current system.

I know someone whose a militant anti-theist, to the point where he didn't know who Nelson Mandela was because he thought Africa was a place filled with "Morons who follow Christianity and Islam".
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Postby Tuthina » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:55 am

Cyrisnia wrote:
Tuthina wrote:Perhaps stop rejecting religions (in general, or particular ones) would help ease the perceived hostility between two? While naturally it is difficult to sympathise with people who force their beliefs on others through violence and coercion (which religions do a lot, admittedly), I fear that the stance of some hardline anti-theists are simply pushing people who would be cool with leaving others alone into extremism since their "opponents" are apparently calling for the destruction of what ones hold with great care. In a sense, it is like that one of the way to prevent <insert ideology> revolution is to stop prosecuting <insert ideology followers> and maybe not oppress <insert ideology focus> so much that they feel it is justified to use violence to overthrow the current system.

I know someone whose a militant anti-theist, to the point where he didn't know who Nelson Mandela was because he thought Africa was a place filled with "Morons who follow Christianity and Islam".

To be fair, there are also a lot of militant theists with the same level of idiocy. :p

Maybe the theists started it first, and maybe it is necessary or "right" to let them have a taste of their own medicine (which I admit is satisfying), but I fear that it would only drive things into a downward spinal until we wipe either side off the surface of the planet. It does not have to end like that.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:41 pm

Also depends on what you classify as religious extremism. Are you holding to the Islamic fanatics who blow themselves up for Allah? Or does it go so far as those adorable YEC's?

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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:39 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:Discussion Question:
How can religious extremism be stopped?

by giving extremists weed.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:41 pm

Othelos wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Discussion Question:
How can religious extremism be stopped?

by giving extremists weed.

#blazeitandpraiseit

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Also depends on what you classify as religious extremism. Are you holding to the Islamic fanatics who blow themselves up for Allah? Or does it go so far as those adorable YEC's?

The former.
Those YEC's are pretty damn adorable though.

Tuthina wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:I know someone whose a militant anti-theist, to the point where he didn't know who Nelson Mandela was because he thought Africa was a place filled with "Morons who follow Christianity and Islam".

To be fair, there are also a lot of militant theists with the same level of idiocy. :p

Maybe the theists started it first, and maybe it is necessary or "right" to let them have a taste of their own medicine (which I admit is satisfying), but I fear that it would only drive things into a downward spinal until we wipe either side off the surface of the planet. It does not have to end like that.

Agreed, he goes for the "eye for an eye" mentality when it comes to Religion.
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Postby Christiaanistan » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:46 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Also depends on what you classify as religious extremism. Are you holding to the Islamic fanatics who blow themselves up for Allah? Or does it go so far as those adorable YEC's?
Ehhh, that sounds almost disturbingly like my feelings about people who have animal spirit beliefs. Their beliefs would be laughable if it were not for the fact that they are obviously a bit mentally disturbed, and it's the only way they can cope with a real world that you can't deny actually is more fucked-up than their silly fantasy world could ever aspire to be.

The thing is, I don't think that young earth creationists are extremists at all. The people whom I believe are crazier than al Qaeda are maniacs like Rick Perry, and I think they ought to be handled accordingly. Regardless of what you believe spiritually, if you are sending the military after children, then you have serious issues, as in Osama bin Laden type issues. Beliefs might indicate that a person is mentally unbalanced, but there is a big difference between being mentally unbalanced and being dangerous.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:45 am

Does anyone here have steam?
A friend of mine decided to have a "debate" (he's a Roman Catholic), with said militant anti-theist.
Send me a TG if you'd wish to participate. A date will likely be provided in the future.
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Postby Murkwood » Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:50 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Murkwood wrote:In response to the poll, no. It should never be viewed as correct no matter what.

As a Catholic, we believe that the Bible was created using divine inspiration from God, but it was copied down by fallible men, so there will always be mistakes.


And, most theologians believe that to be true, so thank you for not being naive enough to believe that everything in the bible is true.

Do you really think I'm that bad?

I need some reputation work done on the Murkwood brand.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:02 pm

Christiaanistan wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Also depends on what you classify as religious extremism. Are you holding to the Islamic fanatics who blow themselves up for Allah? Or does it go so far as those adorable YEC's?
Ehhh, that sounds almost disturbingly like my feelings about people who have animal spirit beliefs. Their beliefs would be laughable if it were not for the fact that they are obviously a bit mentally disturbed, and it's the only way they can cope with a real world that you can't deny actually is more fucked-up than their silly fantasy world could ever aspire to be.

The thing is, I don't think that young earth creationists are extremists at all. The people whom I believe are crazier than al Qaeda are maniacs like Rick Perry, and I think they ought to be handled accordingly. Regardless of what you believe spiritually, if you are sending the military after children, then you have serious issues, as in Osama bin Laden type issues. Beliefs might indicate that a person is mentally unbalanced, but there is a big difference between being mentally unbalanced and being dangerous.


I don't exactly equate sending the NG to increase border security, with actively campaigning for the destruction of all mankind,... but hey that's just me...

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Postby Cyrisnia » Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:35 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Christiaanistan wrote:Ehhh, that sounds almost disturbingly like my feelings about people who have animal spirit beliefs. Their beliefs would be laughable if it were not for the fact that they are obviously a bit mentally disturbed, and it's the only way they can cope with a real world that you can't deny actually is more fucked-up than their silly fantasy world could ever aspire to be.

The thing is, I don't think that young earth creationists are extremists at all. The people whom I believe are crazier than al Qaeda are maniacs like Rick Perry, and I think they ought to be handled accordingly. Regardless of what you believe spiritually, if you are sending the military after children, then you have serious issues, as in Osama bin Laden type issues. Beliefs might indicate that a person is mentally unbalanced, but there is a big difference between being mentally unbalanced and being dangerous.


I don't exactly equate sending the NG to increase border security, with actively campaigning for the destruction of all mankind,... but hey that's just me...

I thought that the NG are basically useless, and have to turn in anyone they find to the Border Patrol.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:16 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
I don't exactly equate sending the NG to increase border security, with actively campaigning for the destruction of all mankind,... but hey that's just me...

I thought that the NG are basically useless, and have to turn in anyone they find to the Border Patrol.


Kind of why I don't buy the liberal sound bite of Evil Perry.

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