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The Republic of Pantalleria
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:53 pm

Roski Emericans wrote:
Sxvoryia wrote:
wait it was shot!


Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Don't forget that the EU, Australians and Filipinos plus the Malaysians will be blaming the Russians...
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:53 pm

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Slavija Slovenska wrote:Please no…so many cultures, languages, and ethnicities destroyed by fat mine hungry corporations who put a choke hold on all tourism. I definitely do not want a Taco Bell in Poland oh and the beer…..the beer would taste like shit if America took over the rest of the world. The beer would just be water.


American beer taste the same as others. It's a misconception.

Uh……no it does not. American beer taste more watered down and the alcohol levels are crap.
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Postby Roski Emericans » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:53 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Roski Emericans wrote:
Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Don't forget that the EU, Australians and Filipinos plus the Malaysians will be blaming the Russians...


Sorry I only looked at the nations on the brink of war, and not all 197 countries.

SO sorry.

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Postby Russlande » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:53 pm

Wow, that's sad.

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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:54 pm

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A plane was shot down, and lives were lost, so this isn't something to joke about.

Im with you on this one don't get me wrong but the same could be said for 9/11 YET YOU HAVE IDIOTS still making jokes about it….i couldn't give a rats ass if it was 12 years ago lives were still lost.

Plus I'll never be able to experience what it is like to be on top of one of those towers... :(
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:54 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Roski Emericans wrote:
Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Don't forget that the EU, Australians and Filipinos plus the Malaysians will be blaming the Russians...


And New Zealanders. There's at least one New Zealander on the aircraft.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:54 pm

Roski Emericans wrote:
Sxvoryia wrote:
wait it was shot!


Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Where have Russia and the US blamed separatists?

If anything, the Russian state media is blaming the Ukrainians.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:54 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:A "pro-Russian" state which the Russians have been distancing themselves from.

As I said earlier, I'd bet on this either being a foolish accident by some trigger-happy separatist or a desperate Hail Mary play to force Putin's involvement.

Hail Mary Play? Excuse me for thinking that a nation that China learns from when it comes to diplomacy and international laws, supports terrorist groups that sow instability and wars in places where it is not necessary, shoots down a civilian aircraft with three of my fellow country men never being able to return home to their families... >:(

American football terminology. A "hail mary" pass is a long-distance throw down the field with a low chance of success. The idea here being that the rebels (in my personal speculation on the matter,) want to force Putin to support them.

There were Americans on that plane too. So cut the appeal to emotion, because I'm angry over it too. I just don't think that jumping to conclusions before being in possession of all the facts in a situation like this is a terribly brilliant idea.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:55 pm

Sxvoryia wrote:Oh no da plane farring is ober ukraine

kwik, brace but fur when hit water!


most victims were dutch. A bad joke at the best of times, totally tasteless now.
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:55 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Slavija Slovenska wrote:Im with you on this one don't get me wrong but the same could be said for 9/11 YET YOU HAVE IDIOTS still making jokes about it….i couldn't give a rats ass if it was 12 years ago lives were still lost.


What? I'm not seeing how this is relevant.

Relevancy: Bottom line lives were lost
Moral: Its never a good time to crack a joke about dead people.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:55 pm

Roski Emericans wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Don't forget that the EU, Australians and Filipinos plus the Malaysians will be blaming the Russians...


Sorry I only looked at the nations on the brink of war, and not all 197 countries.

SO sorry.

Sigh... There are only an estimated 10-15 nationals...
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:55 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Slavija Slovenska wrote:Im with you on this one don't get me wrong but the same could be said for 9/11 YET YOU HAVE IDIOTS still making jokes about it….i couldn't give a rats ass if it was 12 years ago lives were still lost.

Plus I'll never be able to experience what it is like to be on top of one of those towers... :(

Case in point…this guy^
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Don't forget that the EU, Australians and Filipinos plus the Malaysians will be blaming the Russians...


There's a Canadian and Britons as well.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Slavija Slovenska wrote:
Cyyro wrote:
American beer taste the same as others. It's a misconception.

Uh……no it does not. American beer taste more watered down and the alcohol levels are crap.

The cheap mass market beers, yeah.

Small to medium size breweries make plenty of good beers.

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Slavija Slovenska wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
What? I'm not seeing how this is relevant.

Relevancy: Bottom line lives were lost
Moral: Its never a good time to crack a joke about dead people.


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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Slavija Slovenska wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
What? I'm not seeing how this is relevant.

Relevancy: Bottom line lives were lost
Moral: Its never a good time to crack a joke about dead people.
Depends on the joke. Gallows humour if pulled right, is hilarious.

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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Slavija Slovenska wrote:Uh……no it does not. American beer taste more watered down and the alcohol levels are crap.

The cheap mass market beers, yeah.

Small to medium size breweries make plenty of good beers.

Oh yea definitely however they don't produce enough to make them go…you know…around the world or even across the US. most Microbreweries are local or instate. Few are nationwide.
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Postby Cyyro » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Slavija Slovenska wrote:
Cyyro wrote:
American beer taste the same as others. It's a misconception.

Uh……no it does not. American beer taste more watered down and the alcohol levels are crap.


http://grub.gunaxin.com/american-beer-e ... ker/137389
http://www.beertutor.com/articles/american_beer.shtml
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/08/17/Drink ... __Th.shtml
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Postby Roski » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:58 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Roski Emericans wrote:
Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Where have Russia and the US blamed separatists?

If anything, the Russian state media is blaming the Ukrainians.


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/07/17/official-malaysian-plane-shot-down-over-ukraine.html?comp=7000023435700&rank=1

Later, Putin said Ukraine bore responsibility for the crash, but he didn't address the question of who might have shot it down and didn't accuse Ukraine of doing so.
"This tragedy would not have happened if there were peace on this land, if the military actions had not been renewed in southeast Ukraine," Putin said, according to a Kremlin statement issued early Friday. And, certainly, the state over whose territory this occurred bears responsibility for this awful tragedy."


But U.S. intelligence assessments suggest it is more likely pro-Russian separatists or the Russians rather than Ukrainian government forces shot down the plane, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:58 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Slavija Slovenska wrote:Relevancy: Bottom line lives were lost
Moral: Its never a good time to crack a joke about dead people.
Depends on the joke. Gallows humour if pulled right, is hilarious.

See thats okay…but if you specifically made a joke about the person or persons being hung then its not okay.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:59 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Hail Mary Play? Excuse me for thinking that a nation that China learns from when it comes to diplomacy and international laws, supports terrorist groups that sow instability and wars in places where it is not necessary, shoots down a civilian aircraft with three of my fellow country men never being able to return home to their families... >:(

American football terminology. A "hail mary" pass is a long-distance throw down the field with a low chance of success. The idea here being that the rebels (in my personal speculation on the matter,) want to force Putin to support them.

There were Americans on that plane too. So cut the appeal to emotion, because I'm angry over it too. I just don't think that jumping to conclusions before being in possession of all the facts in a situation like this is a terribly brilliant idea.

At the end of the day, whoever shot down this plane, was an ill experienced force with an advanced air defence system, now there are only two options as a result of the geopolitical landscape of the area, either the Russians shot it down or PRO-RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN SPEAKING TERRORISTS shot it down. Now, no international independent investigation team can enter the area because the last time an international team went inside a Pro-Russian held territory of Ukraine, it didn't go well...
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Slavija Slovenska wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Depends on the joke. Gallows humour if pulled right, is hilarious.

See thats okay…but if you specifically made a joke about the person or persons being hung then its not okay.

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See, once again, depends.
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Postby Roski » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:59 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Roski Emericans wrote:
Sorry I only looked at the nations on the brink of war, and not all 197 countries.

SO sorry.

Sigh... There are only an estimated 10-15 nationals...


Sorry, again, I didn't feel like searching through millions of articles to find exactly how pissed nations that in the long run mean very little to the event.

I looked at what was available in one article.

Not a whole fucking google search.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Roski Emericans wrote:
Officials in the United States have stated it to have been shot down.

Russia blames seperatists,
Ukraine blames seperatists
America blames Russia and seperatists.

Where have Russia and the US blamed separatists?

If anything, the Russian state media is blaming the Ukrainians.


Russia is blaming Ukraine.

Ukraine is blaming Russia.

This is pretty much par or course, which is why I'm going to wait until a state not directly involved in the matter provides some actual evidence.
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:00 pm

Cyyro wrote:
Slavija Slovenska wrote:Uh……no it does not. American beer taste more watered down and the alcohol levels are crap.


http://grub.gunaxin.com/american-beer-e ... ker/137389
http://www.beertutor.com/articles/american_beer.shtml
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/08/17/Drink ... __Th.shtml

Still considered shit beer compared to what Germany, Belgium, and England produce. Oh and can't forget Ireland. Irelands hard liquor same as Scotland's
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