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Postby Roski » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:24 pm

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Nobody is blaming Russia.

Have you been watching CNN? They compare Putin to Gadhaffi, and say that Russia needs to. "Be made a pariah state".


I don't watch the Communist News Network.

Its so full of bullshit even that 140% of the population election seems believable.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:24 pm

Roski wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Have you been watching CNN? They compare Putin to Gadhaffi, and say that Russia needs to. "Be made a pariah state".


I don't watch the Communist News Network.

Its so full of bullshit even that 140% of the population election seems believable.

CNN communist? :rofl:
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Postby Roski » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:25 pm

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I don't watch the Communist News Network.

Its so full of bullshit even that 140% of the population election seems believable.

CNN communist? :rofl:


Right. A communist comes to defend his news network.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:26 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Roski wrote:
I don't watch the Communist News Network.

Its so full of bullshit even that 140% of the population election seems believable.

CNN communist? :rofl:

Think that was intended as a joke, especially since I've called CNN out a lot.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:30 pm

EU Serbia wrote:This is only the fault of Russia and the pro-Russian rebels. Nobody else is to blame for this but them. They caused a terrible tragedy and ended so many lives all because Putin couldn't stand to see his ego hurt by a Ukrainian victory in the east of the country so he armed the rebels who shot down a civilian plane and killed innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict.

Kindly provide your satellite surveillance images, sir.
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Scholmeria wrote:What is funny that everybody blames teh ebul Rushans yet.nobody thought about that Eurocontrol let the planes to fly over a war zone. As if nothing could happen.


Nobody is blaming Russia.

Except the west and Ukraine.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:21 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Except the west and Ukraine.


Except everbody actually. Even Asian, African and South American media blame Putin for creating the unstable situation that led to this tragedy.
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Postby Roski » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:17 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
EU Serbia wrote:This is only the fault of Russia and the pro-Russian rebels. Nobody else is to blame for this but them. They caused a terrible tragedy and ended so many lives all because Putin couldn't stand to see his ego hurt by a Ukrainian victory in the east of the country so he armed the rebels who shot down a civilian plane and killed innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict.

Kindly provide your satellite surveillance images, sir.
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Roski wrote:
Nobody is blaming Russia.

Except the west and Ukraine.


The west and Ukraine are blaming the seperatists.
The US has literally gone as far as saying there is no proof Russia is involved in any way.
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Postby Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:56 am

Roski wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Kindly provide your satellite surveillance images, sir.
Preferably with coordinates and annotations,
Except the west and Ukraine.


The west and Ukraine are blaming the seperatists.
The US has literally gone as far as saying there is no proof Russia is involved in any way.

Do you have source for that second part?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:08 am

Organized States wrote:
Roski wrote:
The west and Ukraine are blaming the seperatists.
The US has literally gone as far as saying there is no proof Russia is involved in any way.

Do you have source for that second part?

America has denied having proof that directly implicates Russia, which is a slightly different thing.
But the west blames Putin for not exercising control over the separatists.
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Postby Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:03 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Organized States wrote:Do you have source for that second part?

America has denied having proof that directly implicates Russia, which is a slightly different thing.
But the west blames Putin for not exercising control over the separatists.

That's more of an accurate statement.
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Postby EU Serbia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:01 am

There really is nobody else to blame but Putin. He backs and supplies the separatist pro-Russian rebels and his weapon was used to shoot down the MH17 civilian flight. Oh and let's not forget, he still has to return the Crimean peninsula back to Ukraine that he stole from them earlier this year. Remember how he sent Russian troops to the Crimean peninsula without any markings on them to hide the fact that he invaded another country. Back then just like now he supplied separatist rebels with weapons and transferred troops to occupy Ukrainian territory. This is not the first time this has happened. We've seen it happen in Georgia in 2008 as well.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:07 am

EU Serbia wrote:There really is nobody else to blame but Putin. He backs and supplies the separatist pro-Russian rebels and his weapon was used to shoot down the MH17 civilian flight. Oh and let's not forget, he still has to return the Crimean peninsula back to Ukraine that he stole from them earlier this year. Remember how he sent Russian troops to the Crimean peninsula without any markings on them to hide the fact that he invaded another country. Back then just like now he supplied separatist rebels with weapons and transferred troops to occupy Ukrainian territory. This is not the first time this has happened. We've seen it happen in Georgia in 2008 as well.

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Postby EU Serbia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:10 am

I don't have to. Others have proven it before me. If you're looking for proof the internet is full of it. Besides I've posted an earlier post in which I have listed about 7 or 8 sources where those interested can find proof of Russian military supplying rebels with weapons and fighters.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:11 am

EU Serbia wrote:I don't have to. Others have proven it before me.

No one has proven that.
If you believe they have, source them.
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Postby EU Serbia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:15 am

Like I said in an earlier post look for my older posts. I don't feel like posting sources again. Btw, those who are invading other people's countries because those countries want to become a part of unified Europe, want to adopt European values on civil rights, democracy and the rule of law, those who are stealing those countries territories and shooting down civilian airliners should explain them selves for their actions not someone else. The rest of the world has more than enough proof against Russia and its leadership.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:24 am

EU Serbia wrote:Like I said in an earlier post look for my older posts. I don't feel like posting sources again. Btw, those who are invading other people's countries because those countries want to become a part of unified Europe, want to adopt European values on civil rights, democracy and the rule of law, those who are stealing those countries territories and shooting down civilian airliners should explain them selves for their actions not someone else. The rest of the world has more than enough proof against Russia and its leadership.

I don't particularly care to go find some vague claims that may have been posted by you or others in a thread closing in on 150 pages.

You claim to have sources, fucking post them to back up your statements.
Even the US, which would love to have shit to legitimise ragging on Putin with, claims there is no evidence which proves Russia provided the weapon system - which the rebels had already claimed to have captured from a Ukrainian army base.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:22 am

Roski wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:What is funny that everybody blames teh ebul Rushans yet.nobody thought about that Eurocontrol let the planes to fly over a war zone. As if nothing could happen.


Nobody is blaming Russia.

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Postby EU Serbia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:26 am

If you care for sources you have them all over the Internet. On the other hand I don't see any proof of the Russian claims that somebody else shot down the airplane. Yeah, sure we can look up some pro-Russian web sites to find supposed "claims" of this but then again it's all in the source of the story, and I can't believe anything that the Russian media says, because all they seem to know is how to lie and make up conspiracy theories... Remember how they tried so hard to convince the rest of the world how there were no Russian troops on Ukrainian territory only to have their president say a few days later how those "no brand" troops were Russian soldiers all along.
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Postby Organized States » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:28 am

EU Serbia wrote:Temper, temper, is Imperialist Russia getting nervous? Does Putin need his bottle? If you care for sources you have them all over the Internet. On the other hand I don't see any proof of the Russian claims that somebody else shot down the airplane. Yeah, sure we can look up some pro-Russian web sites to find supposed "claims" of this but then again it's all in the source of the story, and I can't believe anything that the Russian media says, because all they seem to know is how to lie and make up conspiracy theories... Remember how they tried so hard to convince the rest of the world how there were no Russian troops on Ukrainian territory only to have their president say a few days later how those "no brand" troops were Russian soldiers all along.

I would prefer if you could back up your claims as well with a source instead of attacking his credibility with a childish insult.
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Postby Registug » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:29 am

EU Serbia wrote:Temper, temper, is Imperialist Russia getting nervous? Does Putin need his bottle?

Just because he has 'Russia' in his nation name doesn't make him a Pro-russian. Rather, he's anti-idiot and anti-blatant-lies-and-misinformation, which you seem to love spreading.

Why don't you provide a legit source instead of this shit?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:36 am

EU Serbia wrote:Temper, temper, is Imperialist Russia getting nervous? Does Putin need his bottle? If you care for sources you have them all over the Internet. On the other hand I don't see any proof of the Russian claims that somebody else shot down the airplane. Yeah, sure we can look up some pro-Russian web sites to find supposed "claims" of this but then again it's all in the source of the story, and I can't believe anything that the Russian media says, because all they seem to know is how to lie and make up conspiracy theories... Remember how they tried so hard to convince the rest of the world how there were no Russian troops on Ukrainian territory only to have their president say a few days later how those "no brand" troops were Russian soldiers all along.

I'm English, you tit.

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Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

put it in your sig, that should clear everything up
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:40 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

put it in your sig, that should clear everything up

I've already got a fuck-huge disclaimer, neatly marked as "disclaimer" where I state, pretty clearly, "this nation does not reflect my views" "it is run for a laugh".

Though the sig probably does need updating.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:42 am

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nA8r81zSw8E
Why isn't Malaysian Airlines held accountable for this. At the VERY LEAST they should compenste the woman who had a dead body fall through her roof and therefore smash hole through her roof. This lady was elderly and it appeared that she lived alone and had to repair the roof herself (see above video for report). They should AT LEAST compinsate her
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Australian Republic wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nA8r81zSw8E
Why isn't Malaysian Airlines held accountable for this. At the VERY LEAST they should compenste the woman who had a dead body fall through her roof and therefore smash hole through her roof. This lady was elderly and it appeared that she lived alone and had to repair the roof herself (see above video for report). They should AT LEAST compinsate her

Oh don't believe fucking 60 minutes.

there were FOUR (4) planes flying the SAME ROUTE as MH17 MINUTES ahead and MINUTES behind. It could have been any single one of those aircraft unlucky enough to get shot down.

Malaysia Airlines can't be held responsible for being shot down. It's absurd. It's like driving your car down a road that's been perfectly safe the other thousand bloody times you've driven down it then one day someone shoots your car up. "Why were you driving down that road if someone could've shot your car up?" Because it's a perfectly safe fucking road and the guy only shot my car up because he's a dumb cunt who thought I was driving the car of his sworn enemy.
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