Surge 2014: A debate on Illegal Immigration and US Policies.

[Blakk Metal]

Is this a new thing or something?

No, it really isn't. It's just the fact that when people say "illegals" they say it with vitriol in mind, so it's derogatory.

You see, whenever a new word becomes popular with a certain group and they keep on using it it becomes part of offensive language. It's how "nigger" came to be known as a derogatory word. It isn't the word itself, it's whether it was uttered with vitriol or not.

The fact someone calls other person illegal is merely said to express vitriolic thoughts, that is the only way I have heard it used before even in real life.

Funny, because I've seen people get in trouble for using it without vitriol.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

mescan

wait what

this is a new one

Yea, it's a lazy way to say "Mexican" and it has become synonymous with racial slur because it's offensive and it's just a lazy attempt at stirring shit up. Same as just calling someone an illegal.

[Threayce]

The difference being one is a proper term, and the other is dehumanizing language.

"What do you mean nigger sounds different than black? Niggers are black!"

Third World is in no way like the word "nigger". Seriously, you're running on the assumption that it's offensive, and when I ask you to explain how, you just say it's offensive.

Except I've already explained that in the context that you are using it, it is highly offensive. You are implying that "Third Worlders" are not worthy of American medical help on the grounds that they are from the third world.

Something doesn't have to be explicitly an offensive term to have implied offensive undertones. It's the same reason "illegals" is an offensive term.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, it really isn't. It's just the fact that when people say "illegals" they say it with vitriol in mind, so it's derogatory.

You see, whenever a new word becomes popular with a certain group and they keep on using it it becomes part of offensive language. It's how "nigger" came to be known as a derogatory word. It isn't the word itself, it's whether it was uttered with vitriol or not.

The fact someone calls other person illegal is merely said to express vitriolic thoughts, that is the only way I have heard it used before even in real life.

Funny, because I've seen people get in trouble for using it without vitriol.

And do you know why that is? It's not because the word isn't vitriolic, it actually is vitriolic. It underlies the vitriol people feel towards illegal immigrants. I can say "nigger" even jokingly, that doesn't make the word less vitriolic than what it actually is.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

All of them can be fatal.

As someone who had interchangeable sinusitis and middle otitis for a few months of my childhood due to Eustachian tube staph/strep colonization... stop. You're not more likely to die from chicken pox than other silly childhood diseases.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Yea, it's a lazy way to say "Mexican" and it has become synonymous with racial slur because it's offensive and it's just a lazy attempt at stirring shit up. Same as just calling someone an illegal.

Oh, I thought it was broken English for "I'm a scam".

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea, it's a lazy way to say "Mexican" and it has become synonymous with racial slur because it's offensive and it's just a lazy attempt at stirring shit up. Same as just calling someone an illegal.

Oh, I thought it was broken English for "I'm a scam".

Oh no, that'd be "mee-scam"

mescan is more like "Meh-scan"; sort of like "Mek-si-can" but you drop the k and the i sounds, therefore making it sound slurred and lazy.

[Blakk Metal]

Funny, because I've seen people get in trouble for using it without vitriol.

And do you know why that is? It's not because the word isn't vitriolic, it actually is vitriolic. It underlies the vitriol people feel towards illegal immigrants. I can say "nigger" even jokingly, that doesn't make the word less vitriolic than what it actually is.

You are turning a shorthand into a slur just so you can tell people that they shouldn't say it.

All of them can be fatal.

As someone who had interchangeable sinusitis and middle otitis for a few months of my childhood due to Eustachian tube staph/strep colonization... stop. You're not more likely to die from chicken pox than other silly childhood diseases.

They are still potentially fatal and feel like shit regardless if you die or not.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And do you know why that is? It's not because the word isn't vitriolic, it actually is vitriolic. It underlies the vitriol people feel towards illegal immigrants. I can say "nigger" even jokingly, that doesn't make the word less vitriolic than what it actually is.

You are turning a shorthand into a slur just so you can tell people that they shouldn't say it.

In the same way mescan is supposedly a "shorthand" and clearly also a slur, yes.

[Geilinor]

All of them can be fatal.

So can influenza, under the right circumstances.

[Geilinor]

And do you know why that is? It's not because the word isn't vitriolic, it actually is vitriolic. It underlies the vitriol people feel towards illegal immigrants. I can say "nigger" even jokingly, that doesn't make the word less vitriolic than what it actually is.

You are turning a shorthand into a slur just so you can tell people that they shouldn't say it.

In the same way "nigger" is a shorthand for "African-American"?

[Blakk Metal]

You are turning a shorthand into a slur just so you can tell people that they shouldn't say it.

In the same way "nigger" is a shorthand for "African-American"?

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

In the same way "nigger" is a shorthand for "African-American"?

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

Yea, if I call someone a Negro they will beat my ass or most likely call me racist.

You clearly are not thinking this through, are you?

[Geilinor]

In the same way "nigger" is a shorthand for "African-American"?

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

Why the fuck would I go around calling people "negroes"?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

Why the fuck would I go around calling people "negroes"?

Because back in the 18th century it was okay to do so?

I dunno, I am just throwing ideas out there that might excuse his bullshit but... I can't say I take those ideas too seriously.

[Threayce]

In the same way "nigger" is a shorthand for "African-American"?

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

You are either delusional or just outright racist.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

It's a degraded, stupid sounding, version of Negro. Use that word instead.

You are either delusional or just outright racist.

He clearly expends too much time absorbing the views of his white nationalist contacts.

[Norstal]

Yea, because it's not a problem to wait 7 - 15 years to wait for a visa to come here.

Well, now I see a problem. The wait is too short!

I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's fucking insulting.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's fucking insulting.

I don't know how you PoC manage to do it through without growing intolerance yourselves with attitudes like this, dude.

Just an internet engagement already makes me feel rage red, and I happen to identify as white. D:

[Norstal]

As an immigrant here, no, not that many people want to live here. Probably because you people made immigration hard as hell.

It is easy. Sneak in, have a baby, stay in USA and get benefits included. We are very easy. Single men might find it tougher though.

No, you don't get permanent residence just by having kids in the country.

[Norstal]

I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's fucking insulting.

I don't know how you PoC manage to do it through without growing intolerance yourselves with attitudes like this, dude.

Just an internet engagement already makes me feel rage red, and I happen to identify as white. D:

A lot of people I met are nice and aren't like this. I love this country because of it. More than anything, it's the other PoCs that stirs up shit with other PoCs. But then, I live in in California, so I guess that explains it.

[Geilinor]

I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's fucking insulting.

I don't know how you PoC manage to do it through without growing intolerance yourselves with attitudes like this, dude.

Racism comes out on the Internet far more than it does in real life.

[Blakk Metal]

I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's fucking insulting.

I don't know how you PoC manage to do it through without growing intolerance yourselves with attitudes like this, dude.

Ironic that you are referring to certain protected classes as colored.

Just an internet engagement already makes me feel rage red, and I happen to identify as white. D:

Sorry for the heresy.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

More than anything, it's the other PoCs that stirs up shit with other PoCs. But then, I live in in California, so I guess that explains it.

Oh, I almost threw a fit when I found out people in the local transfeminism were spoon-fed by likely Afrocentrism-influenced black militants that racism [in Brazil] only affects black people when we are far more hostile toward Asians than USA albeit not historically so (and for this exact reason, they failed to develop consciousness and protagonism). And then I couldn't be critic because I'm white and then I'd be stealing protagonism.

(Yeah, I'm a pretty right-leaning person compared to these insane SJWs I find here and there, what is all shades of scary >_>)

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Ironic that you are referring to certain protected classes as colored.

People of color is a term they use themselves in their own activism?