Surge 2014: A debate on Illegal Immigration and US Policies.

[The Scientific States]

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

It's not fair to the legals.

Yes, it is. It's not like we're giving preference to the undocumented immigrants. I'm sure there would be a lot less illegal immigration if legal immigration was made easier.

[Norstal]

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

It's not fair to the legals.

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

[Blakk Metal]

The cartels have turned the Central Valley into a shithole filled to the brim with Japanese Ice.

They already have.

The Californian country is filled with mestizos and indios.

Because the cartels represent all of Mexico. Clearly Mexico isn't a democracy, it's a gang-run despotic state. Its like they're Somalia or something.

We're talking about border control, not how great Mexico is.

[The 502nd SS]

Anyone has the capacity to commit crime. Immigrant or not. We can always deport those who commit crime.

Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

Thank God they are being deported and they're not undocumented immigrants they are illegal immigrants

[The 502nd SS]

It's not fair to the legals.

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

So you represent all of the legal immigrants?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_c ... statistics

Unless you want to deport black people to Africa, your question is nonsense. Nonsense because immigrants hardly the majority committing crime.

Well I don't know how things up north are but down here in the south I have seen quite a bit of crimes committed by the illegals

And I have seen Americans committing quite a bunch of crimes such as robbery and murder. Your point?

[The Scientific States]

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

Thank God they are being deported and they're not undocumented immigrants they are illegal immigrants

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

[Norstal]

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

So you represent all of the legal immigrants?

Does Blakk Metal do?

Because if he does, then I'd like to represent all legal immigrants.

[The Scientific States]

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

So you represent all of the legal immigrants?

I know plenty of legal immigrants, and they support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

[Kelinfort]

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

So you represent all of the legal immigrants?

It doesn't matter if it's fair; We have a problem and we need to fix it. We can worry about fairness after the new policy is implemented.

[The 502nd SS]

Thank God they are being deported and they're not undocumented immigrants they are illegal immigrants

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

[The Scientific States]

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Such as?

There isn't any major damage caused by undocumented immigrants.

[Kelinfort]

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Like?

[Kiruri]

It's not fair to the legals.

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

As an illegal immigrant, I do care

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Oh boy... ¬¬

[Norstal]

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Such as?

There isn't any major damage caused by undocumented immigrants.

I stole a job once. I think that's a pretty huge crime.

[The Scientific States]

Such as?

There isn't any major damage caused by undocumented immigrants.

I stole a job once. I think that's a pretty huge crime.

The correct term is "jerb."

[Norstal]

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

As an illegal immigrant, I do care

You care about how fair it is to us legals? That's pretty weird quite honestly.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As a legal immigrant, I don't care.

So you represent all of the legal immigrants?

I'm a legal immigrant and I also don't give a shit. I really don't feel less of a person by letting them stay here, I don't feel less of a person by being humanitarian, and I don't feel less of a person by not agreeing with a population that will never see me as their equal because apparently I am a Neanderthal to them

You on the other hand do, and that speaks a lot about a person if they're so insecure that their culture is going to go extinct by immigration

[The 502nd SS]

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Like?

I have seen first hand damage they can cause to hard working Americans such as property damage, theft, breaking and entering, murder, smuggling illegal drugs, and more. The first four things I listed actually happened to my family.

[The Scientific States]

Like?

I have seen first hand damage they can cause to hard working Americans such as property damage, theft, breaking and entering, murder, smuggling illegal drugs, and more. The first four things I listed actually happened to my family.

So, all x=y, according to you? Undocumented immigrants aren't really more prone to do any of that stuff.

[Kelinfort]

Like?

I have seen first hand damage they can cause to hard working Americans such as property damage, theft, breaking and entering, murder, smuggling illegal drugs, and more. The first four things I listed actually happened to my family.

And any citizen could have caused those anyway. Why is it Illegals who only do those? Crime, as I said, correlates with lower education and wealth.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The correct term is undocumented immigrants, since they came to the country without documents. Illegal immigrants is really just a term made up to scare people.

And, why do you support the tearing apart of families and lives? As someone who lives in a border state, I've seen the effects of deportation, and it's really quite sad.

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

I live in a border state and all I see is paranoia and people issuing death threats to those who disagree with mass deportations over the net And people being anti Latino to the point of killing them.

[Kiruri]

As an illegal immigrant, I do care

You care about how fair it is to us legals? That's pretty weird quite honestly.

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[The 502nd SS]

I have seen first hand damage they can cause to hard working Americans such as property damage, theft, breaking and entering, murder, smuggling illegal drugs, and more. The first four things I listed actually happened to my family.

So, all x=y, according to you? Undocumented immigrants aren't really more prone to do any of that stuff.

I never said that they're more prone, I'm just kind of biased seeing how much pain they caused to my family

[Libertarian California]

I live in a border state too and I've seen the damage they can cause to us

Like?

They turned the once middle class eastern portion of my town into a slum.

But it's changing as the Vietnamese are coming in and kicking them out.