Surge 2014: A debate on Illegal Immigration and US Policies.

[Norstal]

No, but the country will eventually start to look like the country these immigrants came from, if present trends continue.

It really wouldn't. Now you're just grasping at straws, but nice job at showing how little you know about immigrants.

Look, I've been trying my best at making America to turn into a Muslim nation. Just be patient and soon there will be no more bacon in this country.

No, but the country will eventually start to look like the country these immigrants came from, if present trends continue.

You realize immigrants like me got out because we don't like where we came from, right?

[The 502nd SS]

No, but the country will eventually start to look like the country these immigrants came from, if present trends continue.

You realize immigrants like me got out because we don't like where we came from, right?[/quote]
But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

[Kelinfort]

It's like you haven't seen our government lately.

Well, thankful, Sonia Sotomayor doesn't have that much influence, but she's flat out admitted that she's going to factor in her ethnic identity in her judgement.

The problem is, you're so afraid of immigrants factoring ethnicity into their lives here that you fail to see you're doing just the same.

[Kelinfort]

No, but the country will eventually start to look like the country these immigrants came from, if present trends continue.

You realize immigrants like me got out because we don't like where we came from, right?

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?[/quote]
Anyone has the capacity to commit crime. Immigrant or not. We can always deport those who commit crime.

[Blakk Metal]

Ever hear of cultural imperialism? Maybe you don't live in a Southwest state, but Mexican cultural influence here is quite overreaching.

And is that such a big issue to you that you can't possibly live anymore?

The cartels have turned the Central Valley into a shithole filled to the brim with Japanese Ice.

And is that such a big issue to you that you can't possibly live anymore?

Well yes, because Mexican cultural values could grow in influence to begin affecting government policy.

They already have.

Well, quite simply, Mexican aesthetics are reflective of a culture that promotes backwardness and seems to be passive to gang activity, hence why they seem to love putting those god awful murals on their buildings of some dead gang member. Not mention, when I went to Mexico City, people seemed to be quite okay with littering and general keep the city smelly.

What does culture have to do with immigration?

Are we so suddenly paranoid that immigrants will ruin the culture? I mean, if that's the case I know a place where they won't disturb you: it's called the country

The Californian country is filled with mestizos and indios.

[Kiruri]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Ah! Right! I totally forgot that immigrants are the source of all evil in the US. Of course, by killing off all immigrants, then this nation will go back being the utopia it once was...¬¬

[Norstal]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_c ... statistics

Unless you want to deport black people to Africa, your question is nonsense. Nonsense because immigrants hardly the majority committing crime.

[The 502nd SS]

You realize immigrants like me got out because we don't like where we came from, right?

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Anyone has the capacity to commit crime. Immigrant or not. We can always deport those who commit crime.[/quote]
Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?

[Libertarian California]

Well, thankful, Sonia Sotomayor doesn't have that much influence, but she's flat out admitted that she's going to factor in her ethnic identity in her judgement.

The problem is, you're so afraid of immigrants factoring ethnicity into their lives here that you fail to see you're doing just the same.

I'm not saying what they're doing is inherently bad. I'm saying that this is the wrong country for them.

And if they can do it, why can't I?

[Occupied Deutschland]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Ah! Right! I totally forgot that immigrants are the source of all evil in the US. Of course, by killing off all immigrants, then this nation will go back being the utopia it once was...¬¬

Not all immigrants. Only the non-white ones like those Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, and Irish.
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Wait, sorry, I don't think I got the latest newsletter. Are the Irish still on the 'immigration shit-list'?

[The 502nd SS]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_c ... statistics

Unless you want to deport black people to Africa, your question is nonsense. Nonsense because immigrants hardly the majority committing crime.

Well I don't know how things up north are but down here in the south I have seen quite a bit of crimes committed by the illegals

[Kelinfort]

The problem is, you're so afraid of immigrants factoring ethnicity into their lives here that you fail to see you're doing just the same.

I'm not saying what they're doing is inherently bad. I'm saying that this is the wrong country for them.

And if they can do it, why can't I?

I never said you couldn't do it, it just ruins your point.

And, why is this the wrong country for immigrants?

[The Scientific States]

No, but the country will eventually start to look like the country these immigrants came from, if present trends continue.

You realize immigrants like me got out because we don't like where we came from, right?

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?[/quote]

It's like you're implying that immigrants are the only people who commit crimes.

[The 502nd SS]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Ah! Right! I totally forgot that immigrants are the source of all evil in the US. Of course, by killing off all immigrants, then this nation will go back being the utopia it once was...¬¬

not immigrants I said illegals but until your life is being affected by illegals you can't really say much about them

[Kelinfort]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_c ... statistics

Unless you want to deport black people to Africa, your question is nonsense. Nonsense because immigrants hardly the majority committing crime.

Well I don't know how things up north are but down here in the south I have seen quite a bit of crimes committed by the illegals

Please don't give anecdotes as a source.

All I can say is crime correlates to lower education and living conditions. Actually giving a damn about how people live and are educated will help decrease the crime rate.

[Blakk Metal]

Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?

The undocumented immigrants aren't criminals, they are just trying to retrieve the wealth the US stole from them using telemonesis.

[Kiruri]

Ah! Right! I totally forgot that immigrants are the source of all evil in the US. Of course, by killing off all immigrants, then this nation will go back being the utopia it once was...¬¬

Not all immigrants. Only the non-white ones like those Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, and Irish.
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Wait, sorry, I don't think I got the latest newsletter. Are the Irish still on the 'immigration shit-list'?

I meant all immigrants.

[The Scientific States]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Anyone has the capacity to commit crime. Immigrant or not. We can always deport those who commit crime.

Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

[Blakk Metal]

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

It's not fair to the legals.

[The 502nd SS]

I said illegals are committing the crime not all immigrants. I realize non immigrants can commit crimes too but I was talking about illegals

[Kelinfort]

But what about the others making this great country worse by committing crimes over here?

Anyone has the capacity to commit crime. Immigrant or not. We can always deport those who commit crime.

Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?[/quote]
Until we have a sensible and stable immigration policy, you can't really blame the illegals.

[Kelinfort]

The government is deporting undocumented immigrants, unfortunately. Deportation destroys families, and hurts people who risked their lived just to get to this country. If they really want to be here, we should offer undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, it's only fair.

It's not fair to the legals.

Why does it matter?

[The Scientific States]

I said illegals are committing the crime not all immigrants. I realize non immigrants can commit crimes too but I was talking about illegals

Then, explain.

[Norstal]

Well the ILLEGALs have already committed a crime so when will they be deported?

Entering the U.S without proper identification or authorization is criminal. Also the fact that an immigration judge, as part of the Department of Justice, can allow illegals to stay. Again, missing your I-94 is not a crime. It's akin to running red lights or failing to pass a smog check.

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[Soldati Senza Confini]

And is that such a big issue to you that you can't possibly live anymore?

The cartels have turned the Central Valley into a shithole filled to the brim with Japanese Ice.

Well yes, because Mexican cultural values could grow in influence to begin affecting government policy.

They already have.

What does culture have to do with immigration?

Are we so suddenly paranoid that immigrants will ruin the culture? I mean, if that's the case I know a place where they won't disturb you: it's called the country

The Californian country is filled with mestizos and indios.

Because the cartels represent all of Mexico. Clearly Mexico isn't a democracy, it's a gang-run despotic state. Its like they're Somalia or something.