Grand Russian Federation wrote:Just looked at the actual news story, and man, that dad has one great beard. On top of being awesome to his kid, he also has awesome facial hair.
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by Wind in the Willows » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:57 am
Grand Russian Federation wrote:Just looked at the actual news story, and man, that dad has one great beard. On top of being awesome to his kid, he also has awesome facial hair.
by 4years » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:58 am
Nuverikstan wrote:I know how he feels. I myself have declared my own country before, albeit a micronation, but still a country. I sadly don't believe any of us will get recognition, but this is still very cool.
by The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:59 am
4years wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:I know how he feels. I myself have declared my own country before, albeit a micronation, but still a country. I sadly don't believe any of us will get recognition, but this is still very cool.
Find an unclaimed patch of land with lot of untapped oil beneath it. Contact US companies and say that you will give them unrestricted access to the oil and no regulations in return for being dictator and enough money to establish a community there. Choose only close friends and relatives when establishing your community and share out the oil money more or less evenly between them. Then write a constitution that a) proclaims you dictator for life with the power to choose your successor, b) gives the oil companies generous concessions, c) included a generous welfare package funded by oil money. Finally, hire mercenaries, open to the borders to anyone willing to come and work, and start buying up nearby land. You'll do fine until the oil starts to run out or the mercenary captain decides to organize a coup.
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by Grand Russian Federation » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:01 am
4years wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:I know how he feels. I myself have declared my own country before, albeit a micronation, but still a country. I sadly don't believe any of us will get recognition, but this is still very cool.
Find an unclaimed patch of land with lot of untapped oil beneath it. Contact US companies and say that you will give them unrestricted access to the oil and no regulations in return for being dictator and enough money to establish a community there. Choose only close friends and relatives when establishing your community and share out the oil money more or less evenly between them. Then write a constitution that a) proclaims you dictator for life with the power to choose your successor, b) gives the oil companies generous concessions, c) included a generous welfare package funded by oil money. Finally, hire mercenaries, open to the borders to anyone willing to come and work, and start buying up nearby land. You'll do fine until the oil starts to run out or the mercenary captain decides to organize a coup.
Ashmoria wrote:dad is a bit of a nut, eh? his daughter is 7. if he tells her she is the new princess of daddyland she will be excited about it. no need to go to the actual, literal, middle of nowhere to put up a flag and stake a claim.
a new king of a new kingdom needs to move there permanently. a flag is necessary but not sufficient to prove his claim.
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by Seno Zhou Varada » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:01 am
4years wrote:Nuverikstan wrote:I know how he feels. I myself have declared my own country before, albeit a micronation, but still a country. I sadly don't believe any of us will get recognition, but this is still very cool.
Find an unclaimed patch of land with lot of untapped oil beneath it. Contact US companies and say that you will give them unrestricted access to the oil and no regulations in return for being dictator and enough money to establish a community there. Choose only close friends and relatives when establishing your community and share out the oil money more or less evenly between them. Then write a constitution that a) proclaims you dictator for life with the power to choose your successor, b) gives the oil companies generous concessions, c) included a generous welfare package funded by oil money. Finally, hire mercenaries, open to the borders to anyone willing to come and work, and start buying up nearby land. You'll do fine until the oil starts to run out or the mercenary captain decides to organize a coup.
by Adab » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:03 am
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Great, so I'm going to be the only one who doesn't think this Dad is awesome and amazing.
I think what he's done is fairly ludicrous, and is sending the wrong message to his daughter. What it is teaching her is that if you want something so bad, no matter how unrealistic, you can get it. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way, and it may set her up for major disappointments down the road. I'm not saying people shouldn't strive for things in their lives - a new car, to stop smoking, etc. - but to become something she wasn't - a princess - is just overboard, IMHO.
This girl will move past this "princess" phase in her life and when she's matured, I think even the "princess" will realize that this was outlandish, and has transformed her entire family's life just to satiate her desire to be again, something she wasn't.
And obviously, nobody is going to recognize this claim to territory. Well, maybe Sealand.
by Wind in the Willows » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:05 am
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:4years wrote:
Find an unclaimed patch of land with lot of untapped oil beneath it. Contact US companies and say that you will give them unrestricted access to the oil and no regulations in return for being dictator and enough money to establish a community there. Choose only close friends and relatives when establishing your community and share out the oil money more or less evenly between them. Then write a constitution that a) proclaims you dictator for life with the power to choose your successor, b) gives the oil companies generous concessions, c) included a generous welfare package funded by oil money. Finally, hire mercenaries, open to the borders to anyone willing to come and work, and start buying up nearby land. You'll do fine until the oil starts to run out or the mercenary captain decides to organize a coup.
That works. Right, everyone! Anyone want to come be a mercenary in sub-saharan Africa???
This is not the real guy, by the way.
by Estenia » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:08 am
by Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:09 am
Adab wrote:Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Great, so I'm going to be the only one who doesn't think this Dad is awesome and amazing.
I think what he's done is fairly ludicrous, and is sending the wrong message to his daughter. What it is teaching her is that if you want something so bad, no matter how unrealistic, you can get it. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way, and it may set her up for major disappointments down the road. I'm not saying people shouldn't strive for things in their lives - a new car, to stop smoking, etc. - but to become something she wasn't - a princess - is just overboard, IMHO.
This girl will move past this "princess" phase in her life and when she's matured, I think even the "princess" will realize that this was outlandish, and has transformed her entire family's life just to satiate her desire to be again, something she wasn't.
And obviously, nobody is going to recognize this claim to territory. Well, maybe Sealand.
You're not the only one, actually. I agree with you - as fantastic and ambitious this venture is, in the end it is, sorry to say, ridiculous. I doubt that anyone in the international community would be interested in recognizing the rule of a single family over a territory consisting of a barren desert and not even a single permanent resident. There are no settlements there, no military, no economy to sustain this "country" - and even the Bedouins there are nomads. They just keep moving. Ultimately, I believe that this is just a little bit more useful and has barely more impact on the wider world than some imaginary country established in the Internet and claiming territories ranging from the deserts of New Mexico to the City of London to some random spot on the Moon and equally-imaginary mountains on Pluto.
Sealand is actually more realistic; it doesn't claim the entirety of an empty, uninhabited (except by nomads) desert, it just claims sovereignty over a single, artificial WWII installation with some fifty people as its "citizens". As laughable as it seems, it was willing to issue a constitution, it makes stamps, passports, and coins, it has a national anthem (which was once recorded by the Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra). People actually play for its sports teams.
I don't mean to be harsh to the father and daughter - the father is a genuinely well-meaning man, but he has gone too far. He's already attracted the attention of the media. Will the international community actually pay attention to him? He's only embarrassing himself.
The Bedouins there, I believe, will continue their customs and traditions as if nothing there has happened. I doubt they have actually heard of this whole thing.
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Ratateague wrote:NationStates seems to hate the Geneva Convention. I've lost count in how many times someone has tried to introduce something like it. Why they don't like it is a mystery to me. Probably a lot of jingoist wingnuts.
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by Torisakia » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:29 am
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Cylarn wrote:I'll raise my gun for this new kingdom.
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