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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:45 am

Seaxeland wrote:Unclaimed land is fair game. Guy's a king now.

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Postby Victoriala » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:45 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Me as well.

This is so cool. #1 Dad possibly?

Who doesn't want to be a princess/prince?

I wanted to be an Emperor.
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Victoriala wrote:It shall take long before it becomes legit. As long as he has enough power to claim Bir Tawil the place is his.

And of course, he doesn't.


Seaxeland wrote:Unclaimed land is fair game. Guy's a king now.

No he's not.


Explain pls
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Victoriala wrote:It shall take long before it becomes legit. As long as he has enough power to claim Bir Tawil the place is his.

And of course, he doesn't.


Seaxeland wrote:Unclaimed land is fair game. Guy's a king now.

No he's not.


Well, if this works, I'm going to go down to Antarctica and claim the Marie Byrd land. Penguinland, here I come.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:46 am

Is she a warrior princess?
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:47 am

Genivaria wrote:Is she a warrior princess?

Sure. Because all 7-year-olds are warrior princesses.

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Postby Kington Langley » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:47 am

Haha! I wondered how long it would take for someone to actually go to Bir Tawil and attempt to claim it. I say good luck to the old sod! :)
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Postby Adab » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:47 am

Genivaria wrote:Is she a warrior princess?


Apparently no, and that reminds me of a little problem with this kingdom - no army! Maybe they can just pay the Bedouins and recruit them, if they really want to assert their sovereignty over Bir Tawil.
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:49 am

Adab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Is she a warrior princess?


Apparently no, and that reminds me of a little problem with this kingdom - no army! Maybe they can just pay the Bedouins and recruit them, if they really want to assert their sovereignty over Bir Tawil.


I'll gladly move there with a shotgun in exchange for becoming a prince or duke :p
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:49 am

Great, so I'm going to be the only one who doesn't think this dad is awesome and amazing. Nor do I think what he's done is "cool."

I think what he's done is fairly ludicrous, and is sending the wrong message to his daughter. What it is teaching her is that if you want something so bad, no matter how unrealistic, you can get it. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way, and it may set her up for major disappointments down the road. I'm not saying people shouldn't strive for things in their lives - a new car, to stop smoking, etc. - but to become something she wasn't - a princess - is just overboard, IMHO.

This girl will move past this "princess" phase in her life and when she's matured, I think even the "princess" will realize that this was outlandish, and has transformed her entire family's life just to satiate her desire to be again, something she wasn't.

And obviously, nobody is going to recognize this claim to territory. Well, maybe Sealand.
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:49 am

Adab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Is she a warrior princess?


Apparently no, and that reminds me of a little problem with this kingdom - no army! Maybe they can just pay the Bedouins and recruit them, if they really want to assert their sovereignty over Bir Tawil.

Good point. Without an army or diplomatic protection, anyone could walk over the kingdom, providing they do not harm the family (as they are US Citizens).

One point to keep in mind is that Egypt gave them permission to cross it's borders in order to establish the kingdom.

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Postby Nuverikstan » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:50 am

I know how he feels. I myself have declared my own country before, albeit a micronation, but still a country. I sadly don't believe any of us will get recognition, but this is still very cool.
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Postby 4years » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Victoriala wrote:It shall take long before it becomes legit. As long as he has enough power to claim Bir Tawil the place is his.

And of course, he doesn't.


It has (effectively) a population of zero: I think he can maintain control of his non-existent subjects until he can raise the money to build a house there or something. Plus, like I said earlier, if the land has any valuable resources or strategic value, he could become king by showing his willingness to run a puppet government for an actual nation.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:51 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Me as well.

This is so cool. #1 Dad possibly?

Who doesn't want to be a princess/prince?

Yo.


4years wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A nice gesture for his daughter, but I don't expect the international community to give him the time of day, and rightly so.


That depends: If the land has any valuable resources, someone might view him as a useful puppet and support his claim. If the land is essentially just wasteland, than likely no-one will care enough to unseat him and he might get recognized by making a pest out of himself. The most likely scenario, is of course, his being totally ignored by the international community- which. I guess makes him king unless someone else comes along.

If the land was worth claiming Egypt or Sudan would have claimed it a long time ago. In fact, neither of the claim it because they're both claiming the far more valuable Hala'ib Triangle.


Victoriala wrote:
The Nation of Ceneria wrote:Who doesn't want to be a princess/prince?

I wanted to be an Emperor.
Ifreann wrote:And of course, he doesn't.



No he's not.


Explain pls

Well he's just some dude with a daughter. I could show up with the Brazilian football team to take his land and what could he do about it? Nothing.


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Ifreann wrote:And of course, he doesn't.



No he's not.


Well, if this works, I'm going to go down to Antarctica and claim the Marie Byrd land. Penguinland, here I come.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:51 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Is she a warrior princess?

Sure. Because all 7-year-olds are warrior princesses.

When you're doing it right, yes. :D
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:52 am

Cool dad is cool.

As for international stuff, they will hopefully just treat it like a micronation.
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:52 am

4years wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And of course, he doesn't.


It has (effectively) a population of zero: I think he can maintain control of his non-existent subjects until he can raise the money to build a house there or something. Plus, like I said earlier, if the land has any valuable resources or strategic value, he could become king by showing his willingness to run a puppet government for an actual nation.

Good point. Bir Tawil really has no natural resources available, hence the fact that it is unclaimed. Nobody but this one guy and several other internet users want it, and only because they want to be kings.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:52 am

dad is a bit of a nut, eh? his daughter is 7. if he tells her she is the new princess of daddyland she will be excited about it. no need to go to the actual, literal, middle of nowhere to put up a flag and stake a claim.

a new king of a new kingdom needs to move there permanently. a flag is necessary but not sufficient to prove his claim.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:53 am

Warms my heart. :)
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Postby Luepola » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:54 am

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And of course, he doesn't.



No he's not.


Well, if this works, I'm going to go down to Antarctica and claim the Marie Byrd land. Penguinland, here I come.


Nuh-uh, I'm gonna go there first.
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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:54 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:Warms my heart. :)

:)


Luepola wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Well, if this works, I'm going to go down to Antarctica and claim the Marie Byrd land. Penguinland, here I come.


Nuh-uh, I'm gonna go there first.

I will beat you there! Eat by wind disturbance!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:54 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
4years wrote:
It has (effectively) a population of zero: I think he can maintain control of his non-existent subjects until he can raise the money to build a house there or something. Plus, like I said earlier, if the land has any valuable resources or strategic value, he could become king by showing his willingness to run a puppet government for an actual nation.

Good point. Bir Tawil really has no natural resources available, hence the fact that it is unclaimed. Nobody but this one guy and several other internet users want it, and only because they want to be kings.

Egypt and Sudan are both quite invested in their negative claims over it.
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:55 am

Just looked at the actual news story, and man, that dad has one great beard. On top of being awesome to his kid, he also has awesome facial hair.
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Postby Estenia » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:56 am

It will be annexed by both countries.
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Postby Luepola » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:56 am

The Nation of Ceneria wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Warms my heart. :)

:)


Luepola wrote:
Nuh-uh, I'm gonna go there first.

I will beat you there! Eat by wind disturbance!


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Postby The Nation of Ceneria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:57 am

Grand Russian Federation wrote:Just looked at the actual news story, and man, that dad has one great beard. On top of being awesome to his kid, he also has awesome facial hair.

Here's the link for those of you who want to see the beard.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state ... f6878.html


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I will beat you there! Eat by wind disturbance!


Do you want to start a war with me?

Because this is how you start wars.


That might be fun. . .
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