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Postby DesAnges » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:39 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.


All my friends who speak of a promised land of college with no tuition costs have lied to me. :(

It's free for those from Scotland or from the rest of the EU that isn't England or Wales.

What would you be studying?
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:39 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.


All my friends who speak of a promised land of college with no tuition costs have lied to me. :(


Could always join the army. They pay for most of your college expenses after your first 3 years.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:39 pm

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Still comes out a hundred thousand dollars cheaper than my number one NC college in tuition alone.

My figures were wrong. Would be nearer $90k.


Crap, still about 40k - 50k cheaper than my number one college in tuition alone. Still, may be too expensive for my tastes if I cannot find scholarships or any kind of federal aid to lower that. And going to another country can ultimately throw out U.S. federal aid, correct?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:40 pm

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Auremena wrote:I'd rather not carry it on my hip and scare customers. Having it in my purse is preferable.

And you would have that "Surprise! I have a gun too!" factor if you have it concealed.

The surprise is not particularly effective if the redneck shoots first.
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Postby DesAnges » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:41 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:My figures were wrong. Would be nearer $90k.


Crap, still about 40k - 50k cheaper than my number one college in tuition alone. Still, may be too expensive for my tastes if I cannot find scholarships or any kind of federal aid to lower that. And going to another country can ultimately throw out U.S. federal aid, correct?

Question: What are you studying?

Also, helpful link is helpful.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:41 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Kannap wrote:
All my friends who speak of a promised land of college with no tuition costs have lied to me. :(

It's free for those from Scotland or from the rest of the EU that isn't England or Wales.

What would you be studying?


I was still lied to - I was led to believe it is also free for international students.

As for what I would be studying: Business Administration.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:42 pm

Modioperandi wrote:
Kannap wrote:
All my friends who speak of a promised land of college with no tuition costs have lied to me. :(


Could always join the army. They pay for most of your college expenses after your first 3 years.


I'd like to not have that risk factor of dying before I have to.
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:42 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Chedastan wrote:And you would have that "Surprise! I have a gun too!" factor if you have it concealed.

The surprise is not particularly effective if the redneck shoots first.


It's why you do what I do. Distract em with the gun, so the can't see the knife.
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Postby DesAnges » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:42 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:It's free for those from Scotland or from the rest of the EU that isn't England or Wales.

What would you be studying?


I was still lied to - I was led to believe it is also free for international students.

As for what I would be studying: Business Administration.

Doesn't mean you were lied to - at least, not deliberately. People are mostly ill-informed, especially about things beyond their scope of experience.

Business admin would be £9-10k8 a year.
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Postby Auremena » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:43 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Auremena wrote:tends to go for around £17000 a year.
Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.
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Auremena wrote:I'd rather not carry it on my hip and scare customers. Having it in my purse is preferable.
I can understand that. Those Detroit suburbanites often seen as tourists and customers can get a bit jumpy around guns.
When I told them once about motels during the week going for $40, they were like ummm, no, full of sketch. So yeah, they'd freak the fuck out.
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:43 pm

Kannap wrote:
Modioperandi wrote:
Could always join the army. They pay for most of your college expenses after your first 3 years.


I'd like to not have that risk factor of dying before I have to.


OH MY FUCKING GOD! FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE, NOT EVERY JOB GOES INTO COMBAT! Jesus...
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:43 pm

Modioperandi wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The surprise is not particularly effective if the redneck shoots first.


It's why you do what I do. Distract em with the gun, so the can't see the knife.

The concealed weapon that's always legal in Michigan, the knife. However, it's not effective against gun-toting criminals.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:44 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Auremena wrote:tends to go for around £17000 a year.

Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.


I'm not sure how better schools in the U.S. are though.

For instance, UT Dallas (the school I graduated) has a guaranteed tuition (locked tuition for 4 years, and over 15 hours is free) and the most it goes in tuition per semester is 31,000 USD per year taking max load by not being a resident plus 14,000 USD for her necessities besides tuition, we're looking at around 45,000 USD in total per year. Community college total (if she stays at home with her parents and goes to community college and then uni) can come at around, tops, 4,000 per year.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:45 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I was still lied to - I was led to believe it is also free for international students.

As for what I would be studying: Business Administration.

Doesn't mean you were lied to - at least, not deliberately. People are mostly ill-informed, especially about things beyond their scope of experience.

Business admin would be £9-10k8 a year.


For Non-EU international students?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:45 pm

Modioperandi wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'd like to not have that risk factor of dying before I have to.


OH MY FUCKING GOD! FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE, NOT EVERY JOB GOES INTO COMBAT! Jesus...

Yeah, I know of a fellow from my graduating class who's an Air Force Weather Officer. Essentially soldier terms for meteorologist.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:45 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Chedastan wrote:And you would have that "Surprise! I have a gun too!" factor if you have it concealed.

The surprise is not particularly effective if the redneck shoots first.

Sounds like a bulletproof vest might be a good investment.
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:46 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Modioperandi wrote:
It's why you do what I do. Distract em with the gun, so the can't see the knife.

The concealed weapon that's always legal in Michigan, the knife. However, it's not effective against gun-toting criminals.


Not if you practice throwing it. No shit, throwing knifes is a lost art.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:46 pm

Modioperandi wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'd like to not have that risk factor of dying before I have to.


OH MY FUCKING GOD! FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE, NOT EVERY JOB GOES INTO COMBAT! Jesus...


Obviously they all do :P
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:My figures were wrong. Would be nearer $90k.


Crap, still about 40k - 50k cheaper than my number one college in tuition alone. Still, may be too expensive for my tastes if I cannot find scholarships or any kind of federal aid to lower that. And going to another country can ultimately throw out U.S. federal aid, correct?


Depends.

If the school is international but it has ties with the U.S and is applicable for Federal Aid funds (which I do not see how this would make any damn sense, but assuming it does) then no, it wouldn't.

If on the other hand said uni is not part or even recognized by the U.S. then no, Federal Aid funds are not applicable for those unis.

Have you filled your FAFSA already?!
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:47 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Modioperandi wrote:
OH MY FUCKING GOD! FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE, NOT EVERY JOB GOES INTO COMBAT! Jesus...

Yeah, I know of a fellow from my graduating class who's an Air Force Weather Officer. Essentially soldier terms for meteorologist.


I don't get how people don't realize that not every job in the military is super-hooah and doesn't go into combat.
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Postby DesAnges » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:48 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Doesn't mean you were lied to - at least, not deliberately. People are mostly ill-informed, especially about things beyond their scope of experience.

Business admin would be £9-10k8 a year.


For Non-EU international students?

Looks to be that way, yes. That's about the same/slightly more than what current student from England and wales pay now.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:49 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Crap, still about 40k - 50k cheaper than my number one college in tuition alone. Still, may be too expensive for my tastes if I cannot find scholarships or any kind of federal aid to lower that. And going to another country can ultimately throw out U.S. federal aid, correct?


Depends.

If the school is international but it has ties with the U.S and is applicable for Federal Aid funds (which I do not see how this would make any damn sense, but assuming it does) then no, it wouldn't.

If on the other hand said uni is not part or even recognized by the U.S. then no, Federal Aid funds are not applicable for those unis.

Have you filled your FAFSA already?!


Not yet, am I supposed to this early?!
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Postby Modioperandi » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:49 pm

Kannap wrote:
Modioperandi wrote:
OH MY FUCKING GOD! FOR FUCK SAKE PEOPLE, NOT EVERY JOB GOES INTO COMBAT! Jesus...


Obviously they all do :P


Lady, no shit, that legitly pisses me off. How in all hells can someone not notice the fact that only about 12 jobs out of nearly 200 in the army are actual combat MOS'?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:50 pm

Auremena wrote:Being a minority, lucky you, you got the gov to help out a bit. All I was eligible was the unsubsidised Stafford. Dad bitched and complained how I didn't get anything else, how he joined ROTC to pay for school, etc.

And then after I flunked out, he told me if I intended to fail more classes, I'd have to pay. I didn't intend to fail, it just happened. I think he meant if have to pay for it until I could show him I could succeed.
Which I can't pay for it. I'm not an independent student until age 24.


:eyebrow:

I am not sure what being a minority has to do with me getting Federal Aid funds as I did not apply for the Hispanic Scholarship fund or anything; it all was based on Pell Grants and Subsidized Stafford.
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Postby Chedastan » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:50 pm

Modioperandi wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:The concealed weapon that's always legal in Michigan, the knife. However, it's not effective against gun-toting criminals.


Not if you practice throwing it. No shit, throwing knifes is a lost art.

Or one could find a spring loaded knife, that might work.
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