TET: I would talk 500 pages, and I would talk 500 more

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Div forewarned me about the massive culture shock and I have considered the sad idea of leaving everything and almost everyone I know. Though I can still talk to my closest friends on like Facebook or email.

Plus, I felt that if anything, the fact that I have family in Sweden that I know would cushion the loss of friends and family that I have in the U.S. being nearby.

Nonetheless, Div recommended Scotland to me. He claimed that it would still have a culture shock but a lot more minimal than that of diving straight into Sweden.

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Well, let's consider college costs:

-Room and board
-Tuition
-Clothing
-Books
-Assorted school supplies
-Travel

And that's just the basics. Div is just talking about tuition, but how much is the total cost?

[Kannap]

No confirmation that I would be leaving the states. I am looking into universities to attend in Sweden and Scotland. Mainly so that I could eventually achieve becoming a citizen of Sweden. Or a citizen of the UK, one of the two. But preferably Sweden.


I would have liked to stay in NC but tuition in the United States is just far too expensive. I cannot handle it.

how nuch can mom and dad help?

Next to none. My dad won't help at all and my mom cannot afford to help.

Quite simply I cannot obtain the education I want in this country because I cannot afford it. My church offered a ten thousand dollar grant but that won't even make a dent in my tuition cost.

[Auremena]

Well it wouldn't have worked anyways, you have to be 21 to get one. Forgot Michigan isn't the south.
Well, means I'm going up to a year and a half possibly feeling unsafe. I mean, people recommended that I take self defense courses, and even if I didn't know some basic hand to hand combat, it'd be useless against a gun armed assaillant.
Il figure something out.

Maybe a taser? Just thinking.

I seem to remember carrying them concealed to be illegal in Michigan as well. Also, not good against gun armed assailants.

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

And it's still cheaper than North Carolina.

It's £17000 normally, IIRC. Tuition at public schools in state in the US is usually $20000 or so. So similar price.

I could buy a handgun at one even without a CCL? Without a gun licence?

Yes, in the U.S. is legal to buy guns privately and go to your house after a purchase.

It's just not legal to carry in the street in certain states without Concealed Carry.

Which state do you live on?

So I'd be fine at home but not at work? The latter is where I'd need it.

Michigan. Just checked the law regarding concealed carry permits. Got to be 21 and it costs $105, on top of a $200-400 handgun of decent quality.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, in the U.S. is legal to buy guns privately and go to your house after a purchase.

It's just not legal to carry in the street in certain states without Concealed Carry.

Which state do you live on?

Michigan for both me and Aure.

Michigan is an Open-Carry state, meaning she can carry her gun openly.

However, the state is a registration-required state, meaning that the gun she purchases has to be registered with the city chief of police or with the county sheriff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Michigan

[DesAnges]

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Well, let's consider college costs:

-Room and board
-Tuition
-Clothing
-Books
-Assorted school supplies
-Travel

And that's just the basics. Div is just talking about tuition, but how much is the total cost?

The internet covers books. Scotland's cheap as shit for housing and food. Clothing is a personal thing, tuition is decided on a university by university basis but could well be around £9000 a year. Travel is Kannap's own thing.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

how nuch can mom and dad help?

Next to none. My dad won't help at all and my mom cannot afford to help.

Quite simply I cannot obtain the education I want in this country because I cannot afford it. My church offered a ten thousand dollar grant but that won't even make a dent in my tuition cost.

What universities have you considered? And how much is the lowest tuition cost you are willing to settle?

[Union of Sovereign Socialist Republics]

So you think you can new title eh?

[Kannap]

Div forewarned me about the massive culture shock and I have considered the sad idea of leaving everything and almost everyone I know. Though I can still talk to my closest friends on like Facebook or email.

Plus, I felt that if anything, the fact that I have family in Sweden that I know would cushion the loss of friends and family that I have in the U.S. being nearby.

Nonetheless, Div recommended Scotland to me. He claimed that it would still have a culture shock but a lot more minimal than that of diving straight into Sweden.

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

[Auremena]

Yes, in the U.S. is legal to buy guns privately and go to your house after a purchase.

It's just not legal to carry in the street in certain states without Concealed Carry.

Which state do you live on?

Michigan for both me and Aure.

Vastly different parts though. IIRC you're from near GR? That's vastly different from the UP and the northern half of the LP, aka the Canadian south.

[Ethel mermania]

how nuch can mom and dad help?

Next to none. My dad won't help at all and my mom cannot afford to help.

Quite simply I cannot obtain the education I want in this country because I cannot afford it. My church offered a ten thousand dollar grant but that won't even make a dent in my tuition cost.

i need to get in the car and drive, can we continue this another time, dont give up hope yet.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, let's consider college costs:

-Room and board
-Tuition
-Clothing
-Books
-Assorted school supplies
-Travel

And that's just the basics. Div is just talking about tuition, but how much is the total cost?

1. The internet covers books.

2. Scotland's cheap as shit for housing and food.

3. Clothing is a personal thing,

4. Travel is Kannap's own thing.

As a college student I had to pay up over 100 dollars of books per term because the material in the book I could find it nowhere else

2. Yes, but those go as well into the costs of her living. She can't just be in school and forget all about herself.

3. See above

4. See above

I kinda learned to plug in all costs involved in making such a decision from my dad

[Kannap]

Well, let's consider college costs:

-Room and board
-Tuition
-Clothing
-Books
-Assorted school supplies
-Travel

And that's just the basics. Div is just talking about tuition, but how much is the total cost?

The internet covers books. Scotland's cheap as shit for housing and food. Clothing is a personal thing, tuition is decided on a university by university basis but could well be around £9000 a year. Travel is Kannap's own thing.

I figured that in the shadow of saving money by not giving two arms, a leg, and my first born to a U.S. college, then I'd have money for travel expenses.

[Kannap]

Next to none. My dad won't help at all and my mom cannot afford to help.

Quite simply I cannot obtain the education I want in this country because I cannot afford it. My church offered a ten thousand dollar grant but that won't even make a dent in my tuition cost.

What universities have you considered? And how much is the lowest tuition cost you are willing to settle?

Lowest tuition cost in the U.S? I don't know. Everything just feels too expensive for what I want.

[The Serbian Empire]

Michigan for both me and Aure.

Vastly different parts though. IIRC you're from near GR? That's vastly different from the UP and the northern half of the LP, aka the Canadian south.

No, I'm near Midland. Almost in the Canadian South.

[DesAnges]

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

It wouldn't be that, though. For a start, most UK degree courses are 3 years. And the maximum tuition fee - which you are likely to be charged in Scotland, being a non-EU national - is circa £9000, which becomes £27000, which becomes $47000ish.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

Whu... I don't even...

My community college charged 1200 USD per year and then when I moved to Uni I was on the 12,000 per year (I spent 24,000 on universities alone which I went through with pure Federal Aid).

[Auremena]

Div isn't considering that tuition in Scotland is about £1800 per year for Scottish and EU citizens not residing in the UK (other than Scotland) and AFAIK you're not an EU national.

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

Are you an EU resident? No, I don't think so. Therefore your tuition in Scotland would be around what it is for other international students in the UK, tends to go for around £17000 a year.
If you're counting on getting UK citizenship, do note it takes 5 years of residence to get it.

Michigan for both me and Aure.

Michigan is an Open-Carry state, meaning she can carry her gun openly.

However, the state is a registration-required state, meaning that the gun she purchases has to be registered with the city chief of police or with the county sheriff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Michigan

I'd rather not carry it on my hip and scare customers. Having it in my purse is preferable.

[DesAnges]

tends to go for around £17000 a year.

Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.

[Kannap]

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

It wouldn't be that, though. For a start, most UK degree courses are 3 years. And the maximum tuition fee - which you are likely to be charged in Scotland, being a non-EU national - is circa £9000, which becomes £27000, which becomes $47000ish.

Still comes out a hundred thousand dollars cheaper than my number one NC college in tuition alone.

[DesAnges]

It wouldn't be that, though. For a start, most UK degree courses are 3 years. And the maximum tuition fee - which you are likely to be charged in Scotland, being a non-EU national - is circa £9000, which becomes £27000, which becomes $47000ish.

Still comes out a hundred thousand dollars cheaper than my number one NC college in tuition alone.

My figures were wrong. Would be nearer $90k.

[The Serbian Empire]

Michigan is an Open-Carry state, meaning she can carry her gun openly.

However, the state is a registration-required state, meaning that the gun she purchases has to be registered with the city chief of police or with the county sheriff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Michigan

I'd rather not carry it on my hip and scare customers. Having it in my purse is preferable.

I can understand that. Those Detroit suburbanites often seen as tourists and customers can get a bit jumpy around guns.

[Modioperandi]

I'm back. Got side tracked.

[Chedastan]

Michigan is an Open-Carry state, meaning she can carry her gun openly.

However, the state is a registration-required state, meaning that the gun she purchases has to be registered with the city chief of police or with the county sheriff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Michigan

I'd rather not carry it on my hip and scare customers. Having it in my purse is preferable.

And you would have that "Surprise! I have a gun too!" factor if you have it concealed.

[Kannap]

tends to go for around £17000 a year.

Jesus shit. Was not expecting that.

All my friends who speak of a promised land of college with no tuition costs have lied to me.

[Auremena]

Albeit, I would much prefer free tuition if possible. Hopefully which is possible in Sweden via Swedish government aid and scholarships.

But, 1800 per year for four years of tuition in Scotland still comes out to about 12,000 USD which is still far more affordable than 150,000 USD tuition here in North Carolina.

Whu... I don't even...

My community college charged 1200 USD per year and then when I moved to Uni I was on the 12,000 per year (I spent 24,000 on universities alone which I went through with pure Federal Aid).

Being a minority, lucky you, you got the gov to help out a bit. All I was eligible was the unsubsidised Stafford. Dad bitched and complained how I didn't get anything else, how he joined ROTC to pay for school, etc.
And then after I flunked out, he told me if I intended to fail more classes, I'd have to pay. I didn't intend to fail, it just happened. I think he meant if have to pay for it until I could show him I could succeed.
Which I can't pay for it. I'm not an independent student until age 24.