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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:39 pm

Wikipedia said:
The party emerged from the German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany
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Postby Justin States » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:39 pm

To know the answer to that first this question

Do you know what Nazi stands for?

Hmmm?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:40 pm

Horizont wrote:
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yes


Stalin called himself 'communist' too, but he sure as hell wasn't. Same applies for Hitler.

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Postby Kuzestan » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:40 pm

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Soviet Communist wrote:
yes

The Japanese 'Liberal Democratic Party' has "Liberal" in the name... so it must be liberal, right?

Wrong.

And there's that Liberal Party of Australia thing :p
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Postby District XIV » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:40 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
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"Workers Party" is pretty Socialist sounding, now isn't it? Fine, I will say that Bin Laden wasn't from the Middle East just because of his name lol


Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea democratic? Was the German Democratic Republic democratic? How about the Democratic Republic of the Kongo?

This ^

Plus my post from earlier in this thread.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:40 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:Wikipedia said:
The party emerged from the German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany


... What the flying fuck is this supposed to prove?
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Postby Albul » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:40 pm

New acardia wrote:
Soviet Communist wrote:Why do you think that Hitler's Nazi party was supposed to be Socialist, but he barely ever even implemented any Socialist ideas to his German Empire? I don't like Hitler, (obviously, since I am Communist) but I just wanted to know what you guys thought and why you thought that way.

I mean, if you just compare the Third Reich to something like that of the Soviet Union, I cannot see any similarities. :)

I see alot of similarities between the Soviet Union and the Third Reich.
The differences between them were only cosmetic .

This coming from a Tea Party Conservative, a American National Unionist, and a Liberal Conservative...

The main difference is that Nazis persecuted enemies of the rich Germans while the Soviets mainly persecuted enemies of the Party.
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Postby Korouse » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Just so people know, he put Commies in camps, not Socialists.
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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Soviet Communist wrote:Wikipedia said:


... What the flying fuck is this supposed to prove?


Fought against Communists. Communist and Fascists are opposites and hate each other. WIll anyone get that in their head?
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Postby Kuzestan » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Soviet Communist wrote:Wikipedia said:


... What the flying fuck is this supposed to prove?

Not having anything to do with socialism or the working class? I dunno.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Korouse wrote:Just so people know, he put Commies in camps, not Socialists.


He put socialists in camps as well. At least, the people at Sachsenhausen claimed he did.
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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Korouse wrote:Just so people know, he put Commies in camps, not Socialists.


Communists are Socialist, but not the other way around.
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Postby Dityakastan » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm

Err . . . What Hitler meant by "socialism" was socialism of the master race, not socialism of the proletariat. Although I would say is that if the Nazis won WWII, 10 years later after the Nazis conquer the world there would be a communist revolution (One of my Alternate History rules is that if the bad guy wins, the good guy will replace it). (YES I AM A COMMUNIST, DEAL WITH IT)

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Postby District XIV » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:43 pm

Kuzestan wrote:
District XIV wrote:The Japanese 'Liberal Democratic Party' has "Liberal" in the name... so it must be liberal, right?

Wrong.

And there's that Liberal Party of Australia thing :p

*looks up 'Liberal Party of Australia' on Wikipedia*

*thinks might actually be liberal*

*sees Tony Abbott as leader of party*

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:43 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
... What the flying fuck is this supposed to prove?


Fought against Communists. Communist and Fascists are opposites and hate each other. WIll anyone get that in their head?


Who are you arguing against?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:43 pm

Dityakastan wrote:Err . . . What Hitler meant by "socialism" was socialism of the master race, not socialism of the proletariat. Although I would say is that if the Nazis won WWII, 10 years later after the Nazis conquer the world there would be a communist revolution (One of my Alternate History rules is that if the bad guy wins, the good guy will replace it). (YES I AM A COMMUNIST, DEAL WITH IT)


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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:45 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Soviet Communist wrote:
Fought against Communists. Communist and Fascists are opposites and hate each other. WIll anyone get that in their head?


Who are you arguing against?


I don't like arguing since I am Pacifist, so nobody. I am just trying to get it out there because everyone apparently has no education on the subject yet says something they think will apparently stump everyone and end the conversation, which it won't.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:47 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Who are you arguing against?


I don't like arguing since I am Pacifist, so nobody. I am just trying to get it out there because everyone apparently has no education on the subject yet says something they think will apparently stump everyone and end the conversation, which it won't.

1. The state of being pacifist means you dislike violence and think it's unjustified, not the state of disliking arguing
2. NSG is not a classroom, it's a debate forum.

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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:47 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
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Fascists hated Comunists, and Communists hate Fascists.

No shit. What exactly is that supposed to prove?


Some idiots think they are the same thing, товарищ
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:47 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Who are you arguing against?


1. I don't like arguing since I am Pacifist, so nobody. 2. I am just trying to get it out there because everyone apparently has no education on the subject yet says something they think will apparently stump everyone and 3. end the conversation, which it won't.


1. That makes no sense whatsoever.
2. You don't appear to be very educated on the subject yourself.
3. Like I said earlier, there is no conversation. Hitler wasn't a socialist.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
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Postby Korouse » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:47 pm

It seems like nobody knows what Communism and Socialism are, and have the whole political spectrum fucked.

Communism, Socialism - Mixed Economy - State Capitalism, Capitalism = Economic Spectrum, left to right.

Then there's the political spectrum which goes from left (more freedom) to right (less freedom).
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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:48 pm

District XIV wrote:
Soviet Communist wrote:
I don't like arguing since I am Pacifist, so nobody. I am just trying to get it out there because everyone apparently has no education on the subject yet says something they think will apparently stump everyone and end the conversation, which it won't.

1. The state of being pacifist means you dislike violence and think it's unjustified, not the state of disliking arguing
2. NSG is not a classroom, it's a debate forum.


Then don't educate on what it is.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:49 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:
District XIV wrote:1. The state of being pacifist means you dislike violence and think it's unjustified, not the state of disliking arguing
2. NSG is not a classroom, it's a debate forum.


Then don't educate on what it is.

That makes no fucking sense.

edit: You know what I mean.
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Postby Soviet Communist » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:49 pm

But Hitler called himself and the party Socialist, and was originally oriented towards the Workers.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:50 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:But Hitler called himself and the party Socialist, and was originally oriented towards the Workers.


Herrebrugh wrote:Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea democratic? Was the German Democratic Republic democratic? How about the Democratic Republic of the Kongo?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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