What would be your ideal 2016 presidential ticket?

[Farnhamia]

You've stated that already, now explain why he was a good president.

He cleaned up some of the mess carter did. During the 80's, we had some of the best economy times for 2 years in that time frame. He was able to see the wall go down! We had some of the best times when he was in office.

Reagan tripled the Federal deficit, he raised the debt ceiling 17 times in 8 years, he broke the Air Traffic Controllers union, his people sold arms to Iran and used the money to fund the right-wing partisans in Nicaragua, his glorious military exploits included invading the evil island of Grenada and getting 200+ Marines blown up in Beirut. The Berlin Wall came down in 1990, after Reagan had been out of office more than a year. Now, detail the mess "carter did."

[Timsvill]

Still, he saw it go down. I don't care if he wasn't the direct cause. He was the president to see it fall!

So, are you going to argue as to why Reagan was a good president, or are you going to talk about the admittedly awesome event known as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc?

You've confused what you liberals would call "A stupid ass republican who hates obama and gays, and loves guns and the military and the rich being rich!". I'm done with this conversation. Its my opinion that reagan was a good president, and I'm sticking to it!

[The Scientific States]

So, are you going to argue as to why Reagan was a good president, or are you going to talk about the admittedly awesome event known as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc?

You've confused what you liberals would call "A stupid ass republican who hates obama and gays, and loves guns and the military and the rich being rich!". I'm done with this conversation. Its my opinion that reagan was a good president, and I'm sticking to it!

If you have a opinion, and tell people what your opinion is on a debate forum, you're expected to defend and argue your opinion. If you don't do that, you're not only not debating, you're showing everybody that you don't have any facts to back up your opinion?

So, do you want to defend Reagan?

[Geilinor]

So, are you going to argue as to why Reagan was a good president, or are you going to talk about the admittedly awesome event known as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc?

You've confused what you liberals would call "A stupid ass republican who hates obama and gays, and loves guns and the military and the rich being rich!". I'm done with this conversation. Its my opinion that reagan was a good president, and I'm sticking to it!

How was Reagan the president to see it fall? That was George H.W. Bush.

[Corvus Metallum]

So, are you going to argue as to why Reagan was a good president, or are you going to talk about the admittedly awesome event known as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc?

You've confused what you liberals would call "A stupid ass republican who hates obama and gays, and loves guns and the military and the rich being rich!". I'm done with this conversation. Its my opinion that reagan was a good president, and I'm sticking to it!

That's not what he was saying, at all. All he wants are reasons why you think Reagan was a good president.

[Ontorisa]

Hahaha, Rob Ford. Let's go Canada!

All really bad and horrible political jokes aside, as a Canadian, I would like Clinton to win it. Strictly because I forget who the other candidate was and because Clinton appears to be the only person willing to challenge Putin, if I'm wrong, please, correct me.

[Neutraligon]

Hahaha, Rob Ford. Let's go Canada!

All really bad and horrible political jokes aside, as a Canadian, I would like Clinton to win it. Strictly because I forget who the other candidate was and because Clinton appears to be the only person willing to challenge Putin, if I'm wrong, please, correct me.

Right now we are still trying to figure out who will run. Considering we still have an upcoming election, and that a lot can change in 2 years, speculation is a little silly right now.

[Blazedtown]

He cleaned up some of the mess carter did. During the 80's, we had some of the best economy times for 2 years in that time frame. He was able to see the wall go down! We had some of the best times when he was in office.

Reagan tripled the Federal deficit, he raised the debt ceiling 17 times in 8 years, he broke the Air Traffic Controllers union, his people sold arms to Iran and used the money to fund the right-wing partisans in Nicaragua, his glorious military exploits included invading the evil island of Grenada and getting 200+ Marines blown up in Beirut. The Berlin Wall came down in 1990, after Reagan had been out of office more than a year. Now, detail the mess "carter did."

Carter gave up the Panama Canal, abandoned the Shah which caused the mess in Iran in the first place.He tried to abandon our South Korean allies, saw a reduction in our armed forces during the Cold War, putting us at serious disadvantage against the Soviets,he also pardoned the draft dodgers.

[The Scientific States]

Reagan tripled the Federal deficit, he raised the debt ceiling 17 times in 8 years, he broke the Air Traffic Controllers union, his people sold arms to Iran and used the money to fund the right-wing partisans in Nicaragua, his glorious military exploits included invading the evil island of Grenada and getting 200+ Marines blown up in Beirut. The Berlin Wall came down in 1990, after Reagan had been out of office more than a year. Now, detail the mess "carter did."

Carter gave up the Panama Canal, abandoned the Shah which caused the mess in Iran in the first place.He tried to abandon our South Korean allies, saw a reduction in our armed forces during the Cold War, putting us at serious disadvantage against the Soviets,he also pardoned the draft dodgers.

What's your point? Just because Carter wasn't a good president, it somehow justifies Reagan's rotten legacy?

[Blazedtown]

Carter gave up the Panama Canal, abandoned the Shah which caused the mess in Iran in the first place.He tried to abandon our South Korean allies, saw a reduction in our armed forces during the Cold War, putting us at serious disadvantage against the Soviets,he also pardoned the draft dodgers.

What's your point? Just because Carter wasn't a good president, it somehow justifies Reagan's rotten legacy?

He asked for what mess Carter left him. I didn't say shit about Reagan.

[Atlanticatia]

Obama increased the national debt by trillions. And is just an idiot in general.

He didn't, a recession did. The debt started climbing high before Obama was elected, and he's trying to fix the issue. I don't see how he's an idiot.

Carter didn't make the recession, nor did Reagan fix it.

This. Why doesn't anyone realize that GDP = Consumption + Investment + Government Spending + Net Exports? While the deficits were definitely large, it's easier to be fiscally responsible when the economy is doing well, rather than when it is in recession. The deficits also were large because of the Bush structural deficit, stimulus, and the fact that revenues dropped when the economy contracted.

You can't just cut spending by $1 trillion in one year, nor is it wise to raise taxes a lot during a recession. That would force the economy into further contraction and would be a huge shock to the financial system, businesses, etc. The deficit is on track to be reduced significantly as spending tapers off and revenues slowly rise. While saying "Obama increased the national debt by trillions" is true, it was necessary nor can you blame him for it.

People often compare household debt to government debt, and they are in no way comparable, but if you have to compare it, think of it like this: you might have to put grocery bills on a credit card when you lose your job/income, just as you put your house on a mortgage because it's an investment. In this particular situation you can't really blame Obama.

[The Scientific States]

What's your point? Just because Carter wasn't a good president, it somehow justifies Reagan's rotten legacy?

He asked for what mess Carter left him. I didn't say shit about Reagan.

Was Carter incompetent? Yes. Did he leave a mess as big as Reagan's that had a long lasting and negative impact on this nation? Nope.

[South Pacific Republic]

Well, me, obviously

[Qeno]

Well, it's almost that time. (Well, 2 years away, but soon enough to start discussing). The 2016 Presidential elections.

Many people are suspecting the race to turn out as being Hillary Clinton vs Rand Paul. Or Jeb Bush.

What would your ideal Presidential ticket be? I.e. who would you want to be President and Vice President?

Yeah but Hillary Clinton said time and time again that she's still thinking about it (or not running at all if I remember correctly)

My presidential ticket...

Wile E. Coyote for president and Sandwich for vice president

[The Ben Boys]

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No not all of them do. But for all of their "open-mindedness" and "nonjudgmental" attitude, it is really the liberal version of Alabama sometimes. The peaks hit leading up to and immediately after the 2008 election cycle and a brief period a few months ago. They don't totally blacklist you or insult you in the streets (I've seen both and had personal experience with the former) daily, but it's definitely there, just like any area that is strongly aligned with one political spectrum.

[United Earthlings]

No ideal ticket for me as I lean more towards the Executive Branch being a useless drain on taxpayers’ money and that applies to either party in power. At first this may seem like an odd thing to say, but if one were to really think about, I mean really think about, one begins to see the interesting logic in it. After all, Congress, according to the Constitution is supposed to hold most of the power anyway with the other two branches acting as a check & balance. Don't know about you, but I haven't seen any checks or balance in a while and I've been alive quite awhile.

I could go on, but I digress.

I do have an educated guess on who will be the nominees in 2016 though for the two parties for what's it worth.

[Farnhamia]

No ideal ticket for me as I lean more towards the Executive Branch being a useless drain on taxpayers’ money and that applies to either party in power. At first this may seem like an odd thing to say, but if one were to really think about, I mean really think about, one begins to see the interesting logic in it. After all, Congress, according to the Constitution is supposed to hold most of the power anyway with the other two branches acting as a check & balance. Don't know about you, but I haven't seen any checks or balance in a while and I've been alive quite awhile.

I could go on, but I digress.

I do have an educated guess on who will be the nominees in 2016 though for the two parties for what's it worth.

There's not much balance if one of the branches has most of the power. The Constitution lays out the powers that the three branches have and how they interact. No one branch is a "useless drain on the taxpayers' money."

[Corvus Metallum]

No ideal ticket for me as I lean more towards the Executive Branch being a useless drain on taxpayers’ money and that applies to either party in power. At first this may seem like an odd thing to say, but if one were to really think about, I mean really think about, one begins to see the interesting logic in it. After all, Congress, according to the Constitution is supposed to hold most of the power anyway with the other two branches acting as a check & balance. Don't know about you, but I haven't seen any checks or balance in a while and I've been alive quite awhile.

I could go on, but I digress.

I do have an educated guess on who will be the nominees in 2016 though for the two parties for what's it worth.

There's not much balance if one of the branches has most of the power. The Constitution lays out the powers that the three branches have and how they interact. No one branch is a "useless drain on the taxpayers' money."

They're not intended to be, but our current Congress comes pretty close to being one.

[Vicious Debaters]

We abolish the laws that prevent a non-US-citizen from becoming president. Rick Falkvinge for president, Ed Snowden as Vice President.

[Greater Baltoscandia]

I think Jesse Ventura should run, with Elizabeth Warren perhaps as VP.

[The Scientific States]

I think Jesse Ventura should run, with Elizabeth Warren perhaps as VP.

Why Jesse Ventura, a conspiracy theorist and former incompetent governor of Minnesota?

[Dyakovo]

Oh, heavens no. I don't want a warmongering, corrupt, debt tripling, inequality increasing, poor hating man for a president.

Reagan was a good president!

[District XIV]

Oh, heavens no. I don't want a warmongering, corrupt, debt tripling, inequality increasing, poor hating man for a president.

Reagan was a good president!

[Dyakovo]

Cool. But, the wall coming down and the collapse of the Eastern Bloc wasn't directly caused by Reagan.

Still, he saw it go down. I don't care if he wasn't the direct cause. He was the president to see it fall!

George H. W. Bush was president when the Berlin Wall came down.

[Neutraligon]

Still, he saw it go down. I don't care if he wasn't the direct cause. He was the president to see it fall!

George H. W. Bush was president when the Berlin Wall came down.

History is fun ain't it?