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Postby Timsvill » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:03 pm

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Timsvill wrote:My ideal president would be a Ronald Reagan type of president. Can make both democrats and republicans happy!


Oh, heavens no. I don't want a warmongering, corrupt, debt tripling, inequality increasing, poor hating man for a president.

Reagan was a good president!
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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:03 pm

Rubio as president, then someone that's not a daytime vampire/not Bachman as VP.


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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:04 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:Rubio as president, then someone that's not a daytime vampire/not Bachman as VP.


If I may ask, why Marco Rubio? He's just a typical conservative republican who would hurt the country.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:04 pm

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Oh, heavens no. I don't want a warmongering, corrupt, debt tripling, inequality increasing, poor hating man for a president.

Reagan was a good president!


You've stated that already, now explain why he was a good president.
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Postby Absurrania » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:04 pm

Anyone but a republican. Preferably Clinton.

And yes, Regan is leftist by today's standards. He used to, at the very least, acknowledge a willingness to compromise and act on that willingness. Try and get that from either party today.

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Postby The High Lords » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:05 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:Rubio as president, then someone that's not a daytime vampire/not Bachman as VP.


Rubio? You mean the idiot that gave a whole speech for HOURS AND HOURS about almost nothing? I prefer the GOP in most cases, and I would generally support them, but damn, Rubio prolly knocked his head as a baby or something.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:09 pm

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The Ben Boys wrote:Rubio as president, then someone that's not a daytime vampire/not Bachman as VP.


If I may ask, why Marco Rubio?


Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.


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Postby The High Lords » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 pm

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If I may ask, why Marco Rubio?


Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.


Are you saying that because he's hispanic or latino or something, and he'll not be racist because of that?

Because obama is black, and you'd think he'd done that already, right?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 pm

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If I may ask, why Marco Rubio?


Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 pm

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If I may ask, why Marco Rubio?


Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.

So we elect a token Hispanic and every gets to breathe a sigh of relief? Like how racism against blacks came to an end when Barack Obama was elected?
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:
If I may ask, why Marco Rubio?


Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.


Very few liberals say shit like that, and if Rubio is elected, the people who spout that malarkey will continue spouting the same malarkey.

Marco Rubio is anti-gay, a creationist, a staunch social conservative, and economically clueless. I can't picture him being a good president.
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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:11 pm

I wouldn't mind Paul Ryan considering he has shown willingness to work with the Democrats in the past, plus I like his platform.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:12 pm

Organized States wrote:I wouldn't mind Paul Ryan considering he has shown willingness to work with the Democrats in the past, plus I like his platform.


You like staunch social conservatism and policies that would fuck over the working class?
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Postby The High Lords » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:14 pm

If anything, I'd be voting for a president who got rid of those welfare welchers (defined by a board - not by numbers - people are not a statistic!) and criminals. They're pointless to society, right? Name a candidate who will do that, and I'll vote for him/her/it
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Postby Timsvill » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:15 pm

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Timsvill wrote:Reagan was a good president!


You've stated that already, now explain why he was a good president.

He cleaned up some of the mess carter did. During the 80's, we had some of the best economy times for 2 years in that time frame. He was able to see the wall go down! We had some of the best times when he was in office.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 pm

The High Lords wrote:If anything, I'd be voting for a president who got rid of those welfare welchers (defined by a board - not by numbers - people are not a statistic!) and criminals. They're pointless to society, right? Name a candidate who will do that, and I'll vote for him/her/it


What the hell is a "welfare welcher?" And, what are you talking about when you mentioned criminals and pointless people?
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 pm

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You've stated that already, now explain why he was a good president.

He cleaned up some of the mess carter did. During the 80's, we had some of the best economy times for 2 years in that time frame. He was able to see the wall go down! We had some of the best times when he was in office.


Cool. But, the wall coming down and the collapse of the Eastern Bloc wasn't directly caused by Reagan.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 pm

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Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.


Are you saying that because he's hispanic or latino or something, and he'll not be racist because of that?

Because obama is black, and you'd think he'd done that already, right?


No, but it will at least lessen the idiocy.

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Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.

So we elect a token Hispanic and every gets to breathe a sigh of relief? Like how racism against blacks came to an end when Barack Obama was elected?


No.. my point was they would stop pointing the finger at conservatives (Republicans really) incessantly. Never said it would end racism, just the stupid accusations.

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Because we can finally do away with the whole "CONZERVATIVEZ R RAZIST, DON'T VOTE FER DEMM" stuff for a little bit, especially for topics such as AA and immigration. It's not just stupid or insulting, we except that in politics, but it's just annoying. Otherwise it's too early for me to make a call.


Very few liberals say shit like that.


Let me clarify. I live in San Francisco/Napa Valley.


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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 pm

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Organized States wrote:I wouldn't mind Paul Ryan considering he has shown willingness to work with the Democrats in the past, plus I like his platform.


You like staunch social conservatism and policies that would fuck over the working class?

Not really screwing them over, I like the fact that he can compromise.
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Postby Timsvill » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 pm

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Timsvill wrote:He cleaned up some of the mess carter did. During the 80's, we had some of the best economy times for 2 years in that time frame. He was able to see the wall go down! We had some of the best times when he was in office.


Cool. But, the wall coming down and the collapse of the Eastern Bloc wasn't directly caused by Reagan.

Still, he saw it go down. :P I don't care if he wasn't the direct cause. He was the president to see it fall!
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 pm

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The High Lords wrote:
Are you saying that because he's hispanic or latino or something, and he'll not be racist because of that?

Because obama is black, and you'd think he'd done that already, right?


No, but it will at least lessen the idiocy.

Farnhamia wrote:So we elect a token Hispanic and every gets to breathe a sigh of relief? Like how racism against blacks came to an end when Barack Obama was elected?


No.. my point was they would stop pointing the finger at conservatives (Republicans really) incessantly. Never said it would end racism, just the stupid accusations.

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Very few liberals say shit like that.


Let me clarify. I live in San Francisco/Napa Valley.


What does that clarify? Yes, San Fran is liberal. But, I highly doubt everyone in San Fran screams "conservatives are all racist."
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Postby The High Lords » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:18 pm

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The High Lords wrote:If anything, I'd be voting for a president who got rid of those welfare welchers (defined by a board - not by numbers - people are not a statistic!) and criminals. They're pointless to society, right? Name a candidate who will do that, and I'll vote for him/her/it


What the hell is a "welfare welcher?" And, what are you talking about when you mentioned criminals and pointless people?


People that live off welfare while not doing anything that benefits anything. A violation of the "To each his need, from each his ability" concept.

And criminals - for god's sake, for those that just can't learn, or have done something really horrible, let's just get rid of them. Like, rid of them forever.

That's beside the point - I'm going off topic. Nevermind this deviance.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:18 pm

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Cool. But, the wall coming down and the collapse of the Eastern Bloc wasn't directly caused by Reagan.

Still, he saw it go down. :P I don't care if he wasn't the direct cause. He was the president to see it fall!


So, are you going to argue as to why Reagan was a good president, or are you going to talk about the admittedly awesome event known as the collapse of the Eastern Bloc?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:20 pm

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What the hell is a "welfare welcher?" And, what are you talking about when you mentioned criminals and pointless people?


People that live off welfare while not doing anything that benefits anything. A violation of the "To each his need, from each his ability" concept.

And criminals - for god's sake, for those that just can't learn, or have done something really horrible, let's just get rid of them. Like, rid of them forever.

That's beside the point - I'm going off topic. Nevermind this deviance.


Wait, are you advocating we kill all criminals? What do you mean by no benefit anything. There are rules on how someone gets on welfare.
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Postby The High Lords » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:21 pm

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People that live off welfare while not doing anything that benefits anything. A violation of the "To each his need, from each his ability" concept.

And criminals - for god's sake, for those that just can't learn, or have done something really horrible, let's just get rid of them. Like, rid of them forever.

That's beside the point - I'm going off topic. Nevermind this deviance.


Wait, are you advocating we kill all criminals?


Not ALL of them - just those that deserve it. (You should make a separate thread for this)
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