What would be your ideal 2016 presidential ticket?

[Big Jim P]

What we need is a centrist leaning right. What we are likely to get is either a leftist that makes Obama look conservative, or (more likely) the opposite

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Also, this struck me as funny:


LOL! This has nothing to do with race! Althoooouuuuugh...

Yes it does. Republicans advocate for a racist agenda that harms black people at the expense of white people and black people are aware of this, that's why there aren't very many black Republicans.

Hey! Your post-count two posts ago was literally '1337'!

Had you stopped there, we might have been spared yet another sermon about how Republicans are "racist" just because they ascribe to the welfare state or identity politics.

[The Scientific States]

What we need is a centrist leaning right. What we are likely to get is either a leftist that makes Obama look conservative, or (more likely) the opposite

A right leaning centrist? I'd be fine with that, and I'm sure the hypothetical right leaning candidate would be a democrat.

[Davinhia]

Rand paul 2016

No, god no. His economics and conservative stances on social issues would severely harm the nation.

He's going to win, and I don't believe anything can destroy us even more than obama, or carter. He's going to be the lesser of 2 evils. Hillary is shit. Her liberal stances would harm us more than obama did.

[Franklin And Jefferson]

President: Rick Perry.
Vice President: Sarah Palin

Amen

[Big Jim P]

What we need is a centrist leaning right. What we are likely to get is either a leftist that makes Obama look conservative, or (more likely) the opposite

A right leaning centrist? I'd be fine with that, and I'm sure the hypothetical right leaning candidate would be a democrat.

Better than the leftist one we have now, and the worse one in the offing.

[The Scientific States]

No, god no. His economics and conservative stances on social issues would severely harm the nation.

He's going to win, and I don't believe anything can destroy us even more than obama, or carter. He's going to be the lesser of 2 evils. Hillary is shit. Her liberal stances would harm us more than obama did.

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

[Big Jim P]

No, god no. His economics and conservative stances on social issues would severely harm the nation.

He's going to win, and I don't believe anything can destroy us even more than obama, or carter. He's going to be the lesser of 2 evils. Hillary is shit. Her liberal stances would harm us more than obama did.

True. Hillary is the worst thing that could happen, especially after 8 years of Obama.

[The Scientific States]

A right leaning centrist? I'd be fine with that, and I'm sure the hypothetical right leaning candidate would be a democrat.

Better than the leftist one we have now, and the worse one in the offing.

Obama isn't a leftist. His legislation makes him a pretty standard democrat.

[Big Jim P]

He's going to win, and I don't believe anything can destroy us even more than obama, or carter. He's going to be the lesser of 2 evils. Hillary is shit. Her liberal stances would harm us more than obama did.

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

Decent foreign policy?

[Davinhia]

A right leaning centrist? I'd be fine with that, and I'm sure the hypothetical right leaning candidate would be a democrat.

Better than the leftist one we have now, and the worse one in the offing.

OBAMA IS NOT A LEFTIST. He is a conservative liberal. He's right out of the Conservative borders.

[Big Jim P]

Better than the leftist one we have now, and the worse one in the offing.

Obama isn't a leftist. His legislation makes him a pretty standard democrat.

By American standards, he is a leftist.

[Neutraligon]

Obama isn't a leftist. His legislation makes him a pretty standard democrat.

By American standards, he is a leftist.

By American standards today Ronald Reagan is a leftist.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Yes it does. Republicans advocate for a racist agenda that harms black people at the expense of white people and black people are aware of this, that's why there aren't very many black Republicans.

Hey! Your post-count two posts ago was literally '1337'!

Had you stopped there, we might have been spared yet another sermon about how Republicans are "racist" just because they ascribe to the welfare state or identity politics.

Identity is inherent in politics and welfare is necessary to having a state. Republicans reenforce racism in basically everything they advocate for.

[The Scientific States]

Obama isn't a leftist. His legislation makes him a pretty standard democrat.

By American standards, he is a leftist.

Well, "American standards" towards classifying political affiliation aren't often correct. If you want a right leaning centrist by "American standards", that would describe republicans like Rubio or even Romney, as they're often seen as "moderate."

[Davinhia]

He's going to win, and I don't believe anything can destroy us even more than obama, or carter. He's going to be the lesser of 2 evils. Hillary is shit. Her liberal stances would harm us more than obama did.

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

Obama increased the national debt by trillions. And is just an idiot in general. As for carter, he made one of the worst economies the united states has seen. Reagan cleaned it up, and bush h w bush wwas the one who sat there and did nothing bad.

[The Scientific States]

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

Decent foreign policy?

Not good, not bad, but decent. He withdrew troops from Iraq, has tried to help Syria, and has done a fairly decent job in making sure that the crisis in Crimea didn't escalate. Sure, there were some flaws in his foreign policy, but his foreign policy is much, much better than his hawkish predecessor.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

Decent foreign policy?

Obama is always bad for one of two reasons.

He's either too weak and the fact that we are not at war with Iran, Syria, Russia, and China makes us look weak or he's a brutal fascist who makes everyone hate us.

Truth is, he's neither.

[Big Jim P]

Decent foreign policy?

Obama is always bad for one of two reasons.

He's either too weak and the fact that we are not at war with Iran, Syria, Russia, and China makes us look weak or he's a brutal fascist who makes everyone hate us.

Truth is, he's neither,

He is just another mediocre President. We can do better.

[The Scientific States]

I don't see why you would make such a assumption. You shouldn't bluntly say "Rand Paul will be our next president."

Obama and Carter haven't destroyed us. Obama has overseen a strong economic recovery as well as a decent foreign policy, while Carter, though incompetent, didn't do anything disastrous.

Obama increased the national debt by trillions. And is just an idiot in general. As for carter, he made one of the worst economies the united states has seen. Reagan cleaned it up, and bush h w bush wwas the one who sat there and did nothing bad.

He didn't, a recession did. The debt started climbing high before Obama was elected, and he's trying to fix the issue. I don't see how he's an idiot.

Carter didn't make the recession, nor did Reagan fix it.

[The High Lords]

Prez: Rick Perry
VP: Hillary Clinton

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Obama is always bad for one of two reasons.

He's either too weak and the fact that we are not at war with Iran, Syria, Russia, and China makes us look weak or he's a brutal fascist who makes everyone hate us.

Truth is, he's neither,

He is just another mediocre President. We can do better.

I'd say he's solidly second-tier, but hey, I'm a leftist.

[The Scientific States]

Prez: Rick Perry
VP: Hillary Clinton

You're kidding.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

Obama increased the national debt by trillions. And is just an idiot in general. As for carter, he made one of the worst economies the united states has seen. Reagan cleaned it up, and bush h w bush wwas the one who sat there and did nothing bad.

He didn't, a recession did. The debt started climbing high before Obama was elected, and he's trying to fix the issue. I don't see how he's an idiot.

Carter didn't make the recession, nor did Reagan fix it.

Reagan fixed it by doing the opposite of what the right thinks he did.

[The High Lords]

Prez: Rick Perry
VP: Hillary Clinton

You're kidding.

Nope - perry gives the hardliner conservative view while clinton gives a more democratic view. But I favor Perry over clinton, so he's on top