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Postby George Smiley II » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:30 pm

GraySoap wrote:
Quintium wrote:Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965 :twisted:
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.
I though the Pauls were against foreign intervention of any sort? At least the Elder Paul.


Anyway, I'd like to see the Republicans put up a Huntsman & Christie ticket. From Democrats I'd like to see Feingold & Schweitzer. I'll probably vote 3rd party if neither party comes up with similar tickets.


So I guess you'll be voting third party...

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Postby District XIV » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:33 pm

Quintium wrote:Rand Paul and Ron Paul,

Goodness no.
who should then proceed to:

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- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

*sigh* Because sexism accomplishes things :roll:
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965

*sigh again* Racism too?
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box

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- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority,

Oh my.
and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:42 pm

GraySoap wrote:
Quintium wrote:Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965 :twisted:
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.
I though the Pauls were against foreign intervention of any sort? At least the Elder Paul.


That's actually untrue. Elder had repeatedly pushed for PMC use in the Middle East, even after the Blackwater fiasco.

They just prefer mercenary intervention. Much easier to get around those pesky human rights laws.

He also voted in favor of the AUMF2001, which allowed the military to kill and indefinitely imprison anyone they want, including US citizens, as long as they said they were involved in 9/11.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:47 pm

Death Metal wrote:
GraySoap wrote: I though the Pauls were against foreign intervention of any sort? At least the Elder Paul.

That's actually untrue. Elder had repeatedly pushed for PMC use in the Middle East, even after the Blackwater fiasco.

They just prefer mercenary intervention. Much easier to get around those pesky human rights laws.

Less to do with human rights and more to do with the absurd assertion so many lolburtarians make that the US military is conscripted and thus shouldn't be marched off into wars of choice.

The failure here being that wars of choice shouldn't be picked willy-nilly…
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Postby North-East Ohio » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:03 pm

For the Democrats I'd want Hilary Clinton for President and either Martin O'Malley or Brian Schweitzer for VP.

For the Republicans...basically anyone who's not in the Paul family.
I really don't like any of the current candidates...but If I had to choose...Probably Jon Huntsman and Rob Portman...doesn't matter witch position either go for. Like I said, I don't like any of them really.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:16 pm

Bill Richardson (Hispanic vote)
and Kirsten Gillibrand, strong for veterans, and our smartest and most responsible Senator.

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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:19 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Among his other poor qualities, Christie is an absolute asshole, and in no way fit to hold executive office.

How so? Is it because you disagree with him?

Well, for a start, there's this: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/chris-christie-bullying-videos

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:22 pm

Let's have a constitutional monarchy, instead. Then we don't have to worry about electing a head of state. We can invite the Queen back, and get a Prime Minister or something.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:26 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Murkwood wrote:How so? Is it because you disagree with him?

Well, for a start, there's this: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/chris-christie-bullying-videos

And then there was that whole bridge thing. What happened there again? Oh yeah…..


He's very New Jersey...
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Postby District XIV » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:28 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:Let's have a constitutional monarchy, instead. Then we don't have to worry about electing a head of state. We can invite the Queen back, and get a Prime Minister or something.

Yes, because wouldn't everyone just love Prime Minister Boehner. :lol2:

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:30 pm

District XIV wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:Let's have a constitutional monarchy, instead. Then we don't have to worry about electing a head of state. We can invite the Queen back, and get a Prime Minister or something.

Yes, because wouldn't everyone just love Prime Minister Boehner. :lol2:


That'd be terrible. Although wouldn't it be Kevin McCarthy?
I wouldn't mind Pelosi, though.
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:32 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:Let's have a constitutional monarchy, instead. Then we don't have to worry about electing a head of state. We can invite the Queen back, and get a Prime Minister or something.

Let's not. A parliamentary system or semi-presidential system is fine, but no monarch please.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:36 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:Let's have a constitutional monarchy, instead. Then we don't have to worry about electing a head of state. We can invite the Queen back, and get a Prime Minister or something.

Let's not. A parliamentary system or semi-presidential system is fine, but no monarch please.


It was a joke. :p
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Postby Arkolon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:39 pm

Anyone know who America's Third Largest Party is putting up?
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Postby Magna Libero » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:47 pm

Rand Paul perhaps. He might be an almost decent candidate, but he sucks and is actually far from decense.

I'm not an American, but I would either vote for Gary Johnson or none at all and instead try to find alternative means of changing society and avoiding the state.
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Postby Magna Libero » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:49 pm

Arkolon wrote:Anyone know who America's Third Largest Party is putting up?

Is it Gary Johnson? Apparently he wants to run again.
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Postby George Smiley II » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:50 pm

Arkolon wrote:Anyone know who America's Third Largest Party is putting up?


Hitler.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:59 pm

George Smiley II wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Anyone know who America's Third Largest Party is putting up?


Hitler.


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Postby Death Metal » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:03 pm

Magna Libero wrote:Rand Paul perhaps. He might be an almost decent candidate, but he sucks and is actually far from decense.

I'm not an American, but I would either vote for Gary Johnson or none at all and instead try to find alternative means of changing society and avoiding the state.


Gary Johnson? The former governor of New Mexico that gave no-bid contracts to highways that are already falling apart, filled prisons with drug offenders while vetoing marijuana legalization bills, and made his state government significantly larger every year while he was in office? The most socially authoritarian governor New Mexico has ever had?

That Gary Johnson?
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Postby Tatooene » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:04 pm

I would vote for Ben Carson if he chooses to run. Of course, then turn about is fair play, and the Republicans would have to accuse Democrats of racism if they didn't vote for the non-white candidate.
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Postby Tatooene » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:06 pm

Magna Libero wrote:Rand Paul perhaps. He might be an almost decent candidate, but he sucks and is actually far from decense.

I'm not an American, but I would either vote for Gary Johnson or none at all and instead try to find alternative means of changing society and avoiding the state.

As a New Mexican, I can assure you that Gary Johnson is not a good choice for anyone.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Magna Libero wrote:Rand Paul perhaps. He might be an almost decent candidate, but he sucks and is actually far from decense.

I'm not an American, but I would either vote for Gary Johnson or none at all and instead try to find alternative means of changing society and avoiding the state.


Gary Johnson? The former governor of New Mexico that gave no-bid contracts to highways that are already falling apart, filled prisons with drug offenders while vetoing marijuana legalization bills, and made his state government significantly larger every year while he was in office? The most socially authoritarian governor New Mexico has ever had?

That Gary Johnson?

Could I get a source on that?

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:14 pm

Tatooene wrote:I would vote for Ben Carson if he chooses to run. Of course, then turn about is fair play, and the Republicans would have to accuse Democrats of racism if they didn't vote for the non-white candidate.

I don't see anything special about Ben Carson. He's a good speaker and seems like a good man, but beyond that I don't see know why anyone would want him to be the next President. I could see him as an Ike-esque rescuer of foreign interventionism in the GOP to counter Rand Paul, though.

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