What would be your ideal 2016 presidential ticket?

[Murbleflip]

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Fixed that image for you.
It wasn't worth it.

[Risottia]

Fixed that image for you.
It wasn't worth it.

At least it's not a minor - minors can't be electors, much less elected.

[Risottia]

Take your monarchy and go back across the pond

Across the pond? That's a North American monarch. Just like Queen Margrethe II.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Fixed that image for you.
It wasn't worth it.

At least it's not a minor - minors can't be electors, much less elected.

Should have been Sailor Pluto.

YOU WENT THE WRONG WAY.

[Ifreann]

At least it's not a minor - minors can't be electors, much less elected.

Should have been Sailor Pluto.

YOU WENT THE WRONG WAY.

That's your answer to everything.

[Quintium]

Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Should have been Sailor Pluto.

YOU WENT THE WRONG WAY.

That's your answer to everything.

There isn't anything that can't be improved through judicious application of anime.

[MERIZoC]

Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

…..wut.

[Ifreann]

That's your answer to everything.

There isn't anything that can't be improved through judicious application of anime.

It would certainly make US election season more interesting.

[Death Metal]

Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

…..wut.

Well, the third one would be more like "pay Blackwater to invade Iran". Other than that, yeah, he's pretty much right.

[Blasted Craigs]

Stephen Colbert AS prez and John Stewart as VP. The conservative liberal ticket for the win. Since any candidate is unlikely to change America much, it will at least be entertaining. And I cannot wait to see Stewart try to explain the talking points of Colbert, as long as Colbert stays in character.

[Catharcium]

My ideal presidential ticket would be:
Rand Paul—Chris Christie v. Hillary Clinton—Martin O'Malley

The Candidates
Republicans
I picked these Republican candidates because, if they're smart, they'll go for a moderate; not someone who will scare away swing-voters. Paul has a lot of appeal to Democrats and independents and is probably seen as "Republican Lite". However, he's still Republican enough to ensure Tea Partiers will vote for him (he supports gun rights, etc). Christie for the same reasons, though I think he wouldn't be strong enough to lead a ticket.

Democrats
If Clinton runs for the Democratic nomination, she will. I'm not sure who she'd pick as a running mate. If she goes for Cuomo she's basically picked and entirely New Yorker ticket, which she won't do. Biden can't serve as VP again and she wouldn't have him anyway. Likewise, Biden wouldn't win on his own and certainly neither he nor she would want Clinton as a VP to Biden. I think O'Malley would be a respectable yes man for Clinton.

The Result
TL;DR: very close. The Democratic ticket would probably - narrowly - win with between 270 and 290 electoral votes, but it all depends on Florida (...again).

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So who would win? Well, it would be tight. The Republicans with a moderate ticket would be far more likely to win over Clinton detractors in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania (as well as the less important New Jersey, Colorado and Missouri); maybe not enough to entirely win those states, however. States often back (vice-)presidential candidates from their own states so Christie on the ticket could swing New Jersey Republican (there are a lot of 1%ers in NJ). Paul v. Clinton could also genuinely divide Florida, though I think with demographics changes over the last two decades, it'll increasingly vote Democratic and 2016 will likely be no exception.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton - who polarises opinion in America - could well turn previously Democratic-leaning states away from her ticket. Ohio, Colorado, definitely Nevada, but also perhaps New Mexico, Iowa, Michigan and Illinois (as well as those mentioned above: OH, FL, PN).

I think this map is overestimating the Republicans 2016 performance. I doubt Christie on the VP ticket would swing NJ (Paul Ryan didn't swing Wisconsin). NJ has been increasingly Democratic over the past few decades. Also, Democrats preform well in Nevada because of the Latino vote (but this could all change if immigration reform isn't done). Virginia and North Carolina are also swing states. And Obama won Illinois with 60% of the vote, why is it "likely" democrat.

[Geilinor]

Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

…..wut.

Repeal the... Nineteenth...

[Death Metal]

…..wut.

Repeal the... Nineteenth...

Well, if the Pauls get elected and push their We The People act into the law, it will be more or less the same as repealing the entire US constitution, as the document will essentially be unenforceable.

[Atlanticatia]

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So who would win? Well, it would be tight. The Republicans with a moderate ticket would be far more likely to win over Clinton detractors in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania (as well as the less important New Jersey, Colorado and Missouri); maybe not enough to entirely win those states, however. States often back (vice-)presidential candidates from their own states so Christie on the ticket could swing New Jersey Republican (there are a lot of 1%ers in NJ). Paul v. Clinton could also genuinely divide Florida, though I think with demographics changes over the last two decades, it'll increasingly vote Democratic and 2016 will likely be no exception.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton - who polarises opinion in America - could well turn previously Democratic-leaning states away from her ticket. Ohio, Colorado, definitely Nevada, but also perhaps New Mexico, Iowa, Michigan and Illinois (as well as those mentioned above: OH, FL, PN).

Eh, I don't see NJ going Republican. I live here. We've voted reliably Democrat for the past 20 or so years. Christie's approval rating just reached all-time lows here. Also, only 39% of people think he'd be a good president, according to a recent poll. If Bridgegate didn't happen and our economy wasn't shitty right now, then it might have happened. But it's still pretty unlikely, just because of the fact we don't elect Republican senators or Republican presidents, ever. There were really high approval ratings awhile ago (after Sandy) among Democrats and Republicans. I believe it was 70-something percent. But now the opposite is true. We do have the 2nd highest rate of millionaires per capita, but we still vote consistently Democratic. That's true about the whole Tri-State area, though. (It's a very wealthy area) But it's still blue.

[Big Jim P]

Big Jim P/Dyakovo.

[Murkwood]

*pukes*

I'm am so glad people like you are a small, small minority in the US.

Anyway, mine would be Nikki Haley-Chris Christie, in any order. Both are extremely qualified.

Haley wouldn't be a bad choice, but Christie is WAYY too NeoCon and would basically be giving Bush his 5th and 6th terms

As someone who rolls that way, that's one of the reasons he'd be good.

[Lexicor]

Question from a confused Canadian.

Are American politicians always this insane? On both sides?

[District XIV]

Question from a confused Canadian.

Are American politicians always this insane? On both sides?

Why would they not be?

[MERIZoC]

Haley wouldn't be a bad choice, but Christie is WAYY too NeoCon and would basically be giving Bush his 5th and 6th terms

As someone who rolls that way, that's one of the reasons he'd be good.

Among his other poor qualities, Christie is an absolute asshole, and in no way fit to hold executive office.

[Brusia]

Hmmm... my ideal ticket would probably be Condi Rice/Ben Carson (or vice-versa)

[Regenburg]

eddy murphy

[Atlanticatia]

As someone who rolls that way, that's one of the reasons he'd be good.

Among his other poor qualities, Christie is an absolute asshole, and in no way fit to hold executive office.

The whole asshole-bully thing sort of worked in the beginning in NJ (people liked it in a way), but now he's just an asshole.

[Murkwood]

As someone who rolls that way, that's one of the reasons he'd be good.

Among his other poor qualities, Christie is an absolute asshole, and in no way fit to hold executive office.

How so? Is it because you disagree with him?

[GraySoap]

Rand Paul and Ron Paul, who should then proceed to:

- Repeal the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
- Repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965
- Bomb Iran, turn Iran into a parking lot and put the Ayatollah in a box
- Abolish democracy, for it is the tyranny of the majority, and I don't like what will soon be the majority.

I though the Pauls were against foreign intervention of any sort? At least the Elder Paul.


Anyway, I'd like to see the Republicans put up a Huntsman & Christie ticket. From Democrats I'd like to see Feingold & Schweitzer. I'll probably vote 3rd party if neither party comes up with similar tickets.