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Postby 54e » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:53 am

Calisu wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Obama is ineligible for the vice-presidency.

You're a birth-er aren't you?

Woah! Assumption-zone!

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:53 am

Calisu wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Obama is ineligible for the vice-presidency.

You're a birth-er aren't you?

If's actually quite liberal. And I believe Obama can't constitutionally be Vice President.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:54 am

Calisu wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Obama is ineligible for the vice-presidency.

You're a birth-er aren't you?

No. He's ineligible for the vice-presidency because he has served two terms as president.

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Postby Boston and Surrounding Provinces » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:55 am

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Postby Calisu » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:55 am

54e wrote:
Calisu wrote:You're a birth-er aren't you?

Woah! Assumption-zone!

Well someone with no source is claiming Obama is ineligible for a leading a country.

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Postby 54e » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:57 am

Calisu wrote:
54e wrote:Woah! Assumption-zone!

Well someone with no source is claiming Obama is ineligible for a leading a country.

So where's your source that says he's eligible for the Vice Presidency? And why make the jump that someone is a birther? Come on, man. Looking real dumb right now.

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:58 am

Calisu wrote:
54e wrote:Woah! Assumption-zone!

Well someone with no source is claiming Obama is ineligible for a leading a country.

Obama did already serve two terms in an executive position.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:00 am

Calisu wrote:
54e wrote:Woah! Assumption-zone!

Well someone with no source is claiming Obama is ineligible for a leading a country.


12th Amendment wrote:But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


22nd Amendment wrote:No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
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Postby Murbleflip » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:07 am

Calisu wrote:
54e wrote:Woah! Assumption-zone!

Well someone with no source is claiming Obama is ineligible for a leading a country.

I'm not even American and I could tell you that he's right.
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Postby Fabistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 am

I'll go with Cruz/Rand, I guess. There are several I would be willing to accept. Cruz/West, perhaps? West/Cruz? I like the Colonel a lot too.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:11 am

Fabistan wrote:I'll go with Cruz/Rand, I guess. There are several I would be willing to accept. Cruz/West, perhaps? West/Cruz? I like the Colonel a lot too.

I'm pretty sure Colonel Sanders is dead.

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Postby The North American Contident » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:14 am

Someone who isnt a idiot and knows how to fix our economy to the great position it was. Sarah Palin/John Mcain.............. at least they know how to run a good nation so OBAMA GET OUT OF OFFICE AND LIVE OUR LIVES AND NOT GET THE CHECKS FROM GOVERNMENT AFTER YOU LEAVE THE OFFICE....................LETS SEE HOW YOU DEAL WITH OUR LIVES WITH NO JOB AND NO MONTHY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT

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Postby New Terricon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:14 am

Someone who will cleanse America of its patriotic, wasteful, and ignorant lifestyle. Doesn't matter who, I just want our little nationalist fever to be over.

But if that's too much to ask (which it is), I would at least like to see Sanders and Warren in office...
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Postby Zunkwentania » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:15 am

Atlanticatia wrote:Well, it's almost that time. (Well, 2 years away, but soon enough to start discussing). The 2016 Presidential elections.

Many people are suspecting the race to turn out as being Hillary Clinton vs Rand Paul. Or Jeb Bush.

My ideal Presidential ticket would be Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. That'd literally be amazing. Extremely progressive and no corporate influence. Although, I doubt a candidate committed to social democracy - who labels himself a democratic stax dodgerocialist - could ever make it into the White House. Sigh.


What would your ideal Presidential ticket be? I.e. who would you want to be President and Vice President?

Yes, yes, yes! I'd love to have Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren in the White House. I used to also want Al Franken in the White House, but that tax dodgery is just blech.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 am

We'd first have to get rid of Willem-Alexander.
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Postby Lalaki » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:16 am

I would probably like to see my governor (Brian Sandoval) make a run for office. He's a moderate Republican. If he could support gay marriage I would be in full support.

He chose to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. Something that other Republican governors didn't due based on politics. That alone makes me respect his political independence. If other states chose to expand, America's uninsured rate would drop significantly. Sandoval opposes the ACA, but at least knows how to be pragmatic about it.
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Postby Fabistan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:19 am

Ifreann wrote:
Fabistan wrote:I'll go with Cruz/Rand, I guess. There are several I would be willing to accept. Cruz/West, perhaps? West/Cruz? I like the Colonel a lot too.

I'm pretty sure Colonel Sanders is dead.

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:19 am

I just get the overwhelming feeling for some reason that Governor Brewer wants to run for the Presidency. Huh.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:50 am

Ron Paul and David Nolan (founder of Libertarian party)

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Postby Al-Qarn » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:59 am

My ideal presidential ticket would be:
Rand Paul—Chris Christie v. Hillary Clinton—Martin O'Malley

The Candidates
Republicans
I picked these Republican candidates because, if they're smart, they'll go for a moderate; not someone who will scare away swing-voters. Paul has a lot of appeal to Democrats and independents and is probably seen as "Republican Lite". However, he's still Republican enough to ensure Tea Partiers will vote for him (he supports gun rights, etc). Christie for the same reasons, though I think he wouldn't be strong enough to lead a ticket.

Democrats
If Clinton runs for the Democratic nomination, she will. I'm not sure who she'd pick as a running mate. If she goes for Cuomo she's basically picked and entirely New Yorker ticket, which she won't do. Biden can't serve as VP again and she wouldn't have him anyway. Likewise, Biden wouldn't win on his own and certainly neither he nor she would want Clinton as a VP to Biden. I think O'Malley would be a respectable yes man for Clinton.

The Result
TL;DR: very close. The Democratic ticket would probably - narrowly - win with between 270 and 290 electoral votes, but it all depends on Florida (...again).

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So who would win? Well, it would be tight. The Republicans with a moderate ticket would be far more likely to win over Clinton detractors in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania (as well as the less important New Jersey, Colorado and Missouri); maybe not enough to entirely win those states, however. States often back (vice-)presidential candidates from their own states so Christie on the ticket could swing New Jersey Republican (there are a lot of 1%ers in NJ). Paul v. Clinton could also genuinely divide Florida, though I think with demographics changes over the last two decades, it'll increasingly vote Democratic and 2016 will likely be no exception.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton - who polarises opinion in America - could well turn previously Democratic-leaning states away from her ticket. Ohio, Colorado, definitely Nevada, but also perhaps New Mexico, Iowa, Michigan and Illinois (as well as those mentioned above: OH, FL, PN).

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Postby 54e » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:16 am

Al-Qarn wrote:they'll go for a moderate; not someone who will scare away swing-voters. Paul has a lot of appeal to Democrats and independents and is probably seen as "Republican Lite".

I don't know about everyone else, but Rand Paul comes off as about as conservative as they come, not at all moderate.

Also, you have Illinois as a "likely democrat" state, but Wisconsin and Michigan ( and even Minnesota) are more likely to go Republican.

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:17 am

Al-Qarn wrote:My ideal presidential ticket would be:
Rand Paul—Chris Christie v. Hillary Clinton—Martin O'Malley

The Candidates
Republicans
I picked these Republican candidates because, if they're smart, they'll go for a moderate; not someone who will scare away swing-voters. Paul has a lot of appeal to Democrats and independents and is probably seen as "Republican Lite". However, he's still Republican enough to ensure Tea Partiers will vote for him (he supports gun rights, etc). Christie for the same reasons, though I think he wouldn't be strong enough to lead a ticket.

Democrats
If Clinton runs for the Democratic nomination, she will. I'm not sure who she'd pick as a running mate. If she goes for Cuomo she's basically picked and entirely New Yorker ticket, which she won't do. Biden can't serve as VP again and she wouldn't have him anyway. Likewise, Biden wouldn't win on his own and certainly neither he nor she would want Clinton as a VP to Biden. I think O'Malley would be a respectable yes man for Clinton.

The Result
TL;DR: very close. The Democratic ticket would probably - narrowly - win with between 270 and 290 electoral votes, but it all depends on Florida (...again).

(Image)

So who would win? Well, it would be tight. The Republicans with a moderate ticket would be far more likely to win over Clinton detractors in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania (as well as the less important New Jersey, Colorado and Missouri); maybe not enough to entirely win those states, however. States often back (vice-)presidential candidates from their own states so Christie on the ticket could swing New Jersey Republican (there are a lot of 1%ers in NJ). Paul v. Clinton could also genuinely divide Florida, though I think with demographics changes over the last two decades, it'll increasingly vote Democratic and 2016 will likely be no exception.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton - who polarises opinion in America - could well turn previously Democratic-leaning states away from her ticket. Ohio, Colorado, definitely Nevada, but also perhaps New Mexico, Iowa, Michigan and Illinois (as well as those mentioned above: OH, FL, PN).

Nice Map and Predictions!

But, I tend to think that AZ will be one the edge Red next election.
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Postby America Libertaria » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:19 am

I would like Elizabeth Warren for President and Bernie Sanders for Vice President.

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