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Should I.V.F Be Allowed?

Yes
145
86%
No
14
8%
In certain circumstances (please explain)
6
4%
Another
3
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Total votes : 168

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Stagnant Axon Terminal
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:26 am

The Flood wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Welcome to the Pro-Life movement, where the logic is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
You just described the pro-choice movement to a tea.

First of all, the phrase it "To a tee" not "to a beverage."
Second, I can back up every bit of my stance with decades of scientific fact and reasoning. You can't.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:26 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Welcome to the Pro-Life movement, where the logic is made up and the truth doesn't matter.


Let's not forget the joke of the day: that they base transhumanism and their fear of technology out of fucking Gattaca.


I repeat it. They need to cut down on that sci-fi binge they have going on.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:27 am

The Flood wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Ah so you prefer them to die than to be born excellent
Also I didn't fucking say you could touch my ice cream
No, none of them can be killed. As soon as any are implanted, all must be.

No bullshit indefinite freezing until someone wants it, it must be implanted as soon as possible and not treated like a commodity, because human beings are not commodities.


You kind of understand that the female reproductive organ is not that great at not miscarrying even one egg by complete non-attachment of it and it dies anyways, right?

Same thing happens with IVF from what I understand. Also, if you think parents look at children as commodities, I think you need to start rethinking how prospective parents really think about their prospective children.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:28 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Let's not forget the joke of the day: that they base transhumanism and their fear of technology out of fucking Gattaca.


I repeat it. They need to cut down on that sci-fi binge they have going on.

The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:29 am

The Flood wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Welcome to the Pro-Life movement, where the logic is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
You just described the pro-choice movement to a tea.


I think everyone who has been arguing against you know to a degree what is IVF and how it is done and the fact it doesn't violate human rights.

You are just basing your bullshit assumptions out of a sci-fi novel, which isn't even science, it's literature.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:31 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I repeat it. They need to cut down on that sci-fi binge they have going on.

The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.
Code name: Ratatouille Strychnine
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:31 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I repeat it. They need to cut down on that sci-fi binge they have going on.

The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


Damnit where was this technology when my parents needed it? They could have gotten me rid of this damn psoriasis.

Alas, I was robbed out of an utopian existence. Why?
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:32 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.

Even your tentacle arms picture is cats. You truely are the queen of cats.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:32 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.


I can't into tentacles that well.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:32 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


Damnit where was this technology when my parents needed it? They could have gotten me rid of this damn psoriasis.

Alas, I was robbed out of an utopian existence. Why?


Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:33 am

Condunum wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.

Even your tentacle arms picture is cats. You truely are the queen of cats.


Did you ever doubt it?
Code name: Ratatouille Strychnine
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats֍Stop the slow loris illegal pet trade
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:33 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Damnit where was this technology when my parents needed it? They could have gotten me rid of this damn psoriasis.

Alas, I was robbed out of an utopian existence. Why?


Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!

But their movies suck!
General Sherman did nothing wrong, fact.
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Stagnant Axon Terminal
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:33 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.

Oh sweet fucking dicks I want one
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My interests include baking cookies, make-up,
shopping for dresses and high heels, glittery Christmas ornaments,
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:33 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Damnit where was this technology when my parents needed it? They could have gotten me rid of this damn psoriasis.

Alas, I was robbed out of an utopian existence. Why?


Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!


NOOOOO! Wait...

<Glares>

Did your mom ever watched SyFy?!
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:34 am

Genivaria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!

But their movies suck!

Sharktopus will go down as one of my favorite movies ever
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:35 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:The world works on Gattican principles, biology is defined by what they imagined happening in 4th grade, cryogenic freezing can be preformed on born babies, and genetic engineering is already occurring.


That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.

Those poor Japanese schoolgirls, they'll never see it coming.
General Sherman did nothing wrong, fact.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:35 am

Genivaria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!

But their movies suck!


My point. You grasped it.

Basing an argument on a medical procedure being unethical or some other shit because the movie Gattaca is... well, you know. Stupid.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:35 am

Genivaria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Cuz your parents didn't watch SyFy!!!

But their movies suck!


> SyFy
> Good movies

Something is askew here. In other words, you're right, SyFy sucks.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:36 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That's how I obtained my imaginary tentacled arms.
Totes for realz.

Oh sweet fucking dicks I want one


Ok, I shall start the kitty cryopreservation now. How many tentacles do you want your octopussy cat to have?
Code name: Ratatouille Strychnine
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats֍Stop the slow loris illegal pet trade
Cat with internet access||Heartless, strawmanner, Truscum, ''transgendered non-binary kawaii Chan'', flaming faggot and a d*ck. Kiss my paw?||No TGs
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:37 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Oh sweet fucking dicks I want one


Ok, I shall start the kitty cryopreservation now. How many tentacles do you want your octopussy cat to have?

24, so that I can braid them into 8 pretty tentacles.
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My interests include baking cookies, make-up,
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and dead things.
I scream a lot
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Viritica
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:37 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:But their movies suck!

Sharktopus will go down as one of my favorite movies ever

That shit ain't got nothin' on sharknado.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:37 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Genivaria wrote:But their movies suck!


My point. You grasped it.

Basing an argument on a medical procedure being unethical or some other shit because the movie Gattaca is... well, you know. Stupid.


I'm not even sure how to Gattaca. I haven't even watched or read the thing, and looking at how people use it to justify their arguments I am beginning to think it's pointless.
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Postby Tekania » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:37 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Flood wrote:You just described the pro-choice movement to a tea.


She knows how IVF works... you, on the other hand...


Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:37 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ok, I shall start the kitty cryopreservation now. How many tentacles do you want your octopussy cat to have?

24, so that I can braid them into 8 pretty tentacles.


Stylish.
Code name: Ratatouille Strychnine
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats֍Stop the slow loris illegal pet trade
Cat with internet access||Heartless, strawmanner, Truscum, ''transgendered non-binary kawaii Chan'', flaming faggot and a d*ck. Kiss my paw?||No TGs
SQUIG #1||RIP: Dyakovo & Ashmoria

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:38 am

Tekania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
She knows how IVF works... you, on the other hand...


Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.


Can I... Can I sig that?
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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