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What does the Confederate battle flag mean to you?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:59 am

Racisism
375
22%
Southern Heritage
289
17%
Southern Pride
298
17%
Remembrance
163
9%
HERITAGE NOT HATE
168
10%
Slavery
342
20%
Saint Andrew's cross
91
5%
 
Total votes : 1726

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Nazi Flower Power
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:57 am

Dracoria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
That sounds even kinkier than the stuff people do in Massachusetts... :shock:


Only sometimes. Damned government. There are times we all kinda start merging together into one enormous capitalistic orgy, but then the anti-trust lawyers break down the door and separate us all again. :(


If only you had the freedom to love who you choose...
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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:58 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
So i'm a liar now?


Not necessarily. You may have convinced yourself that it actually happened.


It did.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:01 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Not necessarily. You may have convinced yourself that it actually happened.


It did.


And then the carpetbaggers stole your lunch money and shoved you in your locker.
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Dracoria
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:08 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
It did.


And then the carpetbaggers stole your lunch money and shoved you in your locker.


But then some heroic guys rode to the rescue, rope in hand!
Also, chocobos.

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Yumyumsuppertime
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:09 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Not necessarily. You may have convinced yourself that it actually happened.


It did.


Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:09 am

Dracoria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
And then the carpetbaggers stole your lunch money and shoved you in your locker.


But then some heroic guys rode to the rescue, rope in hand!


Hoods on heads!

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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:13 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:You probably could! If the Republicans haven't totally gutted those sorts of programs where you are, you could probably get an adult education scholarship or grant to a local community college or something like that if you looked into it. Night classes, things of that nature. It's far from impossible! Don't give up on getting yourself educated.


Not everyone WANTS to get themselves educated. If Shake is happy and able to earn a living without a college education, then there's nothing wrong with that.


Tiger Kingdom: I may consider it. I always wanted to get my major in History...

Nazi Flower Power: I agree, but I am in a dying industry. Uber(backed by Google) is killing the simple cab/dispatcher and my only hope is either move to a place where UBER is banned or seek higher education...
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:14 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
It did.


Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.


The funny part is mentally combining 'new yorker' 'female' and 'mustache-twirling villain'. I wound up picturing Fran Drescher stroking a rather lush mustache while laughing that nasally laugh of hers. Now try to unsee it!
Also, chocobos.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:21 am

Dracoria wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.


The funny part is mentally combining 'new yorker' 'female' and 'mustache-twirling villain'. I wound up picturing Fran Drescher stroking a rather lush mustache while laughing that nasally laugh of hers. Now try to unsee it!


Crap. It's more vivid for me, since I've seen her up close in person.

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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:21 am

Dracoria wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.


The funny part is mentally combining 'new yorker' 'female' and 'mustache-twirling villain'. I wound up picturing Fran Drescher stroking a rather lush mustache while laughing that nasally laugh of hers. Now try to unsee it!


I always liked Fran Drescher, but that is ,probably, only me...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:22 am

Master Shake wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
The funny part is mentally combining 'new yorker' 'female' and 'mustache-twirling villain'. I wound up picturing Fran Drescher stroking a rather lush mustache while laughing that nasally laugh of hers. Now try to unsee it!


I always liked Fran Drescher, but that is ,probably, only me...


I was never into The Nanny, but I checked out Happily Divorced, and it's surprisingly good.

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Dracoria
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:23 am

Master Shake wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
The funny part is mentally combining 'new yorker' 'female' and 'mustache-twirling villain'. I wound up picturing Fran Drescher stroking a rather lush mustache while laughing that nasally laugh of hers. Now try to unsee it!


I always liked Fran Drescher, but that is ,probably, only me...


Pretty good actor, but her laugh is like fingernails on the chalkboard of my sanity.
Also, chocobos.

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I show solidarity with Occupy Wall Street by painting my toilet as a police cruiser.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:33 am

Dracoria wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
I always liked Fran Drescher, but that is ,probably, only me...


Pretty good actor, but her laugh is like fingernails on the chalkboard of my sanity.


She's actually quite soft-spoken. It's weird.

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TheConfederate States of America
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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:43 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
It did.


Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.



I didn't think anyone here would be interested.
And I informed the principle and he ignored it at the time and I got a nice long lecture from Mr.Carter about my shirt and I got ISS for the rest of the day.
And part of the reason I was put there is because admittingly I got pissed off at her and Mr. Carter
and I yelled at Mr. Carter and tried to walk out of his office after slamming the door. (We all know where it went from there)
She did get in a little trouble however but it was a leave with pay.

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:47 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
But then some heroic guys rode to the rescue, rope in hand!


Hoods on heads!


Is that what you always think of when you think of the south???

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Master Shake
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:48 am

You know every time I hear about high school I cringe, but then I get happy because I never have to go back...

except in my nightmares...but now we are getting off topic...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:50 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Here's the thing: A teacher calling you a racist for wearing a Confederate flag shirt would be in HUGE trouble. A professional in the industry would not do that, if only because the consequences would likely include a reprimand on her record, and possible suspension. So you either dealt with an astoundingly incompetent teacher AND administration (since in no part of your story did she suffer any consequences for her actions), or you somehow forgot to mention to the school administration that she had outright called you a racist, or you did tell them this and they ignored it (and you forgot to mention this important part in your story), or you invented the story to portray a New York teacher as a mustache-twirling villain and you as the cocky kid ready to stand up for the south, or you hallucinated the whole thing.



I didn't think anyone here would be interested.
And I informed the principle and he ignored it at the time and I got a nice long lecture from Mr.Carter about my shirt and I got ISS for the rest of the day.
And part of the reason I was put there is because admittingly I got pissed off at her and Mr. Carter
and I yelled at Mr. Carter and tried to walk out of his office after slamming the door. (We all know where it went from there)
She did get in a little trouble however but it was a leave with pay.


If you'd included those details at the beginning, I'd have been slightly more likely to believe you, since that's the sort of thing that a person relating this sort of story wouldn't forget to mention. However, the fact that you included them only after I brought up their exclusion causes me to remain--to put it mildly--skeptical of your veracity, and your excuse that "I didn't think that any of you would be interested" doesn't hold water, since what made you think that we would be interested in the first part of your story, and not the fallout? No, that sounds a bit too much like your repeated claims about fifty pages or so ago that you had arguments that would absolutely convince us, but that you weren't going to bother to type them, since we'd just call them "Historical Revisionism".

I'm going to stop now, since to continue past may major point would simply be cruel and pointless.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:54 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Hoods on heads!


Is that what you always think of when you think of the south???


Why, no. I think of my grandmother's kitchen, and playing with my cousins, and the awesome bar that my grandfather built with his own two hands as an addition to the house (It had a full bar, wood paneling, green shag carpet, tables, and a dartboard, and it is my dream to have one of those of my own someday), and my introduction to grits, and the humidity, and the politeness of all of my relatives, and the pleasant small-town feel, and how everyone said "Sir" and "Ma'am" to the point that I also picked up the habit (one that I maintain to this day when addressing my elders), and about a thousand other things. The Klan has a presence in the South that really picked up during the Civil Rights Era, but I believe that more chapters can be found in California than in most Southern states.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:55 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Hoods on heads!


Is that what you always think of when you think of the south???


And you didn't remark about the post before it?
Also, chocobos.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:56 am

Master Shake wrote:You know every time I hear about high school I cringe, but then I get happy because I never have to go back...

except in my nightmares...but now we are getting off topic...


If you can find any way of going to community college, do so. It's an entirely different world. You're intelligent, but there are some holes in your academic experience, and I think that you'd enjoy the challenge and sense of achievement.

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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:57 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Is that what you always think of when you think of the south???


Why, no. I think of my grandmother's kitchen, and playing with my cousins, and the awesome bar that my grandfather built with his own two hands as an addition to the house (It had a full bar, wood paneling, green shag carpet, tables, and a dartboard, and it is my dream to have one of those of my own someday), and my introduction to grits, and the humidity, and the politeness of all of my relatives, and the pleasant small-town feel, and how everyone said "Sir" and "Ma'am" to the point that I also picked up the habit (one that I maintain to this day when addressing my elders), and about a thousand other things. The Klan has a presence in the South that really picked up during the Civil Rights Era, but I believe that more chapters can be found in California than in most Southern states.


Oddly enough I live like 15 miles away from Blackstar Canyon which is where they(Clan) meet up every now and then...(I know this based on the stories of my elders and local rumors)

That place is fucking creepy...one time hiking through the hills of the canyon I came across a noose hanging in one of the trees...

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Master Shake wrote:You know every time I hear about high school I cringe, but then I get happy because I never have to go back...

except in my nightmares...but now we are getting off topic...


If you can find any way of going to community college, do so. It's an entirely different world. You're intelligent, but there are some holes in your academic experience, and I think that you'd enjoy the challenge and sense of achievement.


I may actually consider it. I bet it could make me feel better about myself and it doesn't hurt that there is a community college like five miles away from where I live...

Thanks for the compliment BTW.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:57 am

Dracoria wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Is that what you always think of when you think of the south???


And you didn't remark about the post before it?


He did. My response to that is right above your post.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:59 am

Master Shake wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Why, no. I think of my grandmother's kitchen, and playing with my cousins, and the awesome bar that my grandfather built with his own two hands as an addition to the house (It had a full bar, wood paneling, green shag carpet, tables, and a dartboard, and it is my dream to have one of those of my own someday), and my introduction to grits, and the humidity, and the politeness of all of my relatives, and the pleasant small-town feel, and how everyone said "Sir" and "Ma'am" to the point that I also picked up the habit (one that I maintain to this day when addressing my elders), and about a thousand other things. The Klan has a presence in the South that really picked up during the Civil Rights Era, but I believe that more chapters can be found in California than in most Southern states.


Oddly enough I live like 15 miles away from Blackstar Canyon which is where they(Clan) meet up every now and then...(I know this based on the stories of my elders and local rumors)

That place is fucking creepy...one time hiking through the hills of the canyon I came across a noose hanging in one of the trees...


Possibly reliving the glory days of when they could get away with such things and the local law would look the other way. Los Angeles and Orange County have always had their share of racists, and officials who condoned such things.

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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:00 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
And you didn't remark about the post before it?


He did. My response to that is right above your post.


Not seeing it. Unless he just replied to both posts as one.
Also, chocobos.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:02 am

Master Shake wrote:I may actually consider it. I bet it could make me feel better about myself and it doesn't hurt that there is a community college like five miles away from where I live...

You should do it! It can only help you.
By the way, I do apologize for being rude to you earlier.
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