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What does the Confederate battle flag mean to you?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:59 am

Racisism
375
22%
Southern Heritage
289
17%
Southern Pride
298
17%
Remembrance
163
9%
HERITAGE NOT HATE
168
10%
Slavery
342
20%
Saint Andrew's cross
91
5%
 
Total votes : 1726

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Yumyumsuppertime
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:22 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:And now I have that Johnny Cash song stuck in my head.

Goddammit.




I've been everywhere, man...


Dammit.


I'd say that I was sorry, but there's a "Misery loves company" thing at work, as well.

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Postby Dakini » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:22 am

Dracoria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Well, at least there is one thing the North and the South can agree on! Hard to go wrong with bacon. :lol:


As long as it's real bacon and not Canadian Bacon. Philistines.

Only you people call that stuff "Canadian bacon". It's back bacon everywhere else.

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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:23 am

Dakini wrote:Uh... I'm a foreigner (as I stated many times in this thread, I'm from Canada). I apparently know a lot more about the US civil war than certain high school drop outs around here.


I am only a high school drop due to social-economic situations beyond my control. Besides I had some really shitty teachers and made more money working a job then sitting around all day being told I was stupid and being mentally abused by said teachers...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:29 am

Dakini wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
As long as it's real bacon and not Canadian Bacon. Philistines.

Only you people call that stuff "Canadian bacon". It's back bacon everywhere else.

This doesn't make it better...the contention wasn't that the "Canadian" part was a lie, it was the 'bacon' part.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:34 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Dakini wrote:Uh... I'm a foreigner (as I stated many times in this thread, I'm from Canada). I apparently know a lot more about the US civil war than certain high school drop outs around here.

People who carry or wear the flag nowadays definitely give the impression of being racist.


I'm not sure if the Confederate flag would be easily recognisable to, say, a high school student in the interior regions of China.


I would guess not, but I am not sure because I didn't bring one when I went to China. Some of my students in Shijiazhuang did know what the Boston Tea Party was, though.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:34 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Dakini wrote:Wait, so some dude from a state that formed because it didn't want to be part of the CSA wrote a song about how being proud of the CSA isn't really racist?



West Virgina joined the union as a slave state.

I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be here. My point was that it was strange that someone from a state that came into existence as a split from Virginia because Virginia wanted to leave the USA and the people living there did not was all "this flag represents my heritage!".

Because it doesn't.

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:35 am

Master Shake wrote:
Dakini wrote:Uh... I'm a foreigner (as I stated many times in this thread, I'm from Canada). I apparently know a lot more about the US civil war than certain high school drop outs around here.


I am only a high school drop due to social-economic situations beyond my control. Besides I had some really shitty teachers and made more money working a job then sitting around all day being told I was stupid and being mentally abused by said teachers...


Much like that carpetbagger teacher.

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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:35 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
I'm not sure if the Confederate flag would be easily recognisable to, say, a high school student in the interior regions of China.


I would guess not, but I am not sure because I didn't bring one when I went to China. Some of my students in Shijiazhuang did know what the Boston Tea Party was, though.


I'm actually rather impressed...I mean that the communists would let the kids learn about the Boston Tea Party...

interesting...

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
I am only a high school drop due to social-economic situations beyond my control. Besides I had some really shitty teachers and made more money working a job then sitting around all day being told I was stupid and being mentally abused by said teachers...


Much like that carpetbagger teacher.


The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:37 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
I am only a high school drop due to social-economic situations beyond my control. Besides I had some really shitty teachers and made more money working a job then sitting around all day being told I was stupid and being mentally abused by said teachers...


Much like that carpetbagger teacher.


Who did not exist.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:39 am

Master Shake wrote:
The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...

High school, believe me, is in no way "higher learning". College is an entirely different experience.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:40 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Dakini wrote:Uh... I'm a foreigner (as I stated many times in this thread, I'm from Canada). I apparently know a lot more about the US civil war than certain high school drop outs around here.

People who carry or wear the flag nowadays definitely give the impression of being racist.


I'm not sure if the Confederate flag would be easily recognisable to, say, a high school student in the interior regions of China.

Oh, well, now we're being particular about our "foreigners" are we?

I can go survey some Japanese people if you want.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:40 am

Master Shake wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I would guess not, but I am not sure because I didn't bring one when I went to China. Some of my students in Shijiazhuang did know what the Boston Tea Party was, though.


I'm actually rather impressed...I mean that the communists would let the kids learn about the Boston Tea Party...

interesting...


China's not really communist anymore.

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Much like that carpetbagger teacher.


The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...


College is way better than high school. You have a lot more freedom to decide what you want to study and some courses are not as strict about attendance.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:41 am

Master Shake wrote:The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...


Not a week goes by that I don't wish I had the time (and money) to go back to college. Might be because I'm a corporation instead of a true Southerner though.
Also, chocobos.

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:41 am

Master Shake wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I would guess not, but I am not sure because I didn't bring one when I went to China. Some of my students in Shijiazhuang did know what the Boston Tea Party was, though.


I'm actually rather impressed...I mean that the communists would let the kids learn about the Boston Tea Party...

interesting...


Hey Master Shake look at this.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... UKiPmKRxHA

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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:42 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...

High school, believe me, is in no way "higher learning". College is an entirely different experience.


I'll never know...
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:43 am

Dracoria wrote:
Master Shake wrote:The educational system in certain parts of the US is pathetic at best...quite sad really...I recall when I was in elementary school I had an english teacher that told me I had to go to college because I was full of potential compared to my classmates, but my high school experiences really made me despise higher learning and made me long for the day I could just leave and never come back...


Not a week goes by that I don't wish I had the time (and money) to go back to college. Might be because I'm a corporation instead of a true Southerner though.


I knew it! I knew there were no people in Delaware!
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:44 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
Not a week goes by that I don't wish I had the time (and money) to go back to college. Might be because I'm a corporation instead of a true Southerner though.


I knew it! I knew there were no people in Delaware!


We're people! Just people with investors. Who sometimes merge with or split into other people.
Also, chocobos.

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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:45 am

Master Shake wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:High school, believe me, is in no way "higher learning". College is an entirely different experience.


I'll never know...


I can't hesitate to suggest, if you ever have the time and a little money set aside, to take a few courses at a local community college. Even if you don't take any credit courses. It's a much different atmosphere.
Also, chocobos.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:46 am

Master Shake wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:High school, believe me, is in no way "higher learning". College is an entirely different experience.


I'll never know...

You probably could! If the Republicans haven't totally gutted those sorts of programs where you are, you could probably get an adult education scholarship or grant to a local community college or something like that if you looked into it. Night classes, things of that nature. It's far from impossible! Don't give up on getting yourself educated.
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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:47 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Much like that carpetbagger teacher.


Who did not exist.


So i'm a liar now?

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:51 am

Dracoria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I knew it! I knew there were no people in Delaware!


We're people! Just people with investors. Who sometimes merge with or split into other people.


That sounds even kinkier than the stuff people do in Massachusetts... :shock:
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:53 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
We're people! Just people with investors. Who sometimes merge with or split into other people.


That sounds even kinkier than the stuff people do in Massachusetts... :shock:


Only sometimes. Damned government. There are times we all kinda start merging together into one enormous capitalistic orgy, but then the anti-trust lawyers break down the door and separate us all again. :(
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:54 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
I'll never know...

You probably could! If the Republicans haven't totally gutted those sorts of programs where you are, you could probably get an adult education scholarship or grant to a local community college or something like that if you looked into it. Night classes, things of that nature. It's far from impossible! Don't give up on getting yourself educated.


Not everyone WANTS to get themselves educated. If Shake is happy and able to earn a living without a college education, then there's nothing wrong with that.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:55 am

Dracoria wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I knew it! I knew there were no people in Delaware!


We're people! Just people with investors. Who sometimes merge with or split into other people.


You're essentially the Founders on the show Deep Space 9, down to the same motivations and goals.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:56 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Who did not exist.


So i'm a liar now?


Not necessarily. You may have convinced yourself that it actually happened.

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