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What does the Confederate battle flag mean to you?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:59 am

Racisism
375
22%
Southern Heritage
289
17%
Southern Pride
298
17%
Remembrance
163
9%
HERITAGE NOT HATE
168
10%
Slavery
342
20%
Saint Andrew's cross
91
5%
 
Total votes : 1726

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:22 am

Dracoria wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:Doesn't mean you have to insult cities that aren't it. Hell, I love living in Alabama, it's got the most beautiful sunsets on Earth, doesn't mean I mock other people's homes. I even insult it. Like, constantly. Doesn't mean I don't love it to death.


You can go ahead and mock Delaware. We don't care anymore.


Are there people in Delaware? :shock:

I thought it was just corporations...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:22 am

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The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:Well now you're just trying to start shit. In all of our thread jacks, we've remained civil. That's why the mods haven't shut us down yet. Don't ruin this for us, Shake!


My apologies...

I didn't mean to be rude, but I really like San Diego...


As a native San Diegan, I appreciate it, but you saw it as a tourist. It's not that great. It's far more interesting and diverse in Los Angeles.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:23 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
You can go ahead and mock Delaware. We don't care anymore.


Are there people in Delaware? :shock:

I thought it was just corporations...


Don't make me quote Mitt Romney.

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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:23 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
You can go ahead and mock Delaware. We don't care anymore.


Are there people in Delaware? :shock:

I thought it was just corporations...

Wait, is Delaware a real place? I thought it was made up, like Narnia or the North Pole.
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:24 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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Dude it is over a 100 miles away from where I live...

I will admit though I really want to visit it again...do they have any anime cons in SD?

I'm pretty sure there are more than a few enclaves that serve anime fans in the festivities starting tomorrow.


Man that is both cool and a bummer...I always gotta work during anime cons...

I missed the LA one and now the SD one...

I was going to dress up like Mana Sama...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:27 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
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To be fair anyone who has been to LA would probably agree with me...


LA resident here, just coming in to say that I completely and vehemently disagree with you.


Sadly I'm not goiing to start arguing with him over where he is born since we can't help these things...


And happily, I am not going to dignify any insult to the great city of Los Angeles with a response.

If I could help it I'd be anywhere else other then CA, but thats just me...


Even Compton.



I LOVE Compton. Best barbecue I've ever had, and incredibly nice people.

I lived in San Diego for the first thirty years of my life, and I've lived in Los Angeles half that time. Speaking from experience, I like it much better here. A greater variety and quality of food (though the Mexican stuff is better in SD), more interesting cultural scene, more diversity in communities, more films, more everything. San Diego features better Mexican food, Comic Con, and nice weather that isn't really THAT different from the weather here.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:27 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:San Diego is so clean and sanitized that I refuse to believe people actually live in it and it's actually just a model city maintained by a very meticulous collector.


No, you described it perfectly. And the weather is a constant 72 Fahrenheit, like we're climate controlled. It's frankly creepy. I much prefer Los Angeles.

Southern California freaks me out in general weatherwise, I don't know how we're connected to the same ocean but your part doesn't make it cold. It ain't right, I tellz ya...it ain't right. Like seriously, your lowest average day time temperature for the year is the average temperature for summer in San Francisco. Same fucking ocean. We're only like 300 or 400 miles away (I don't feel like looking it up)...and like I can get as far as San Simeon and it's still nice a chilly at the coast. But not the LA basin and beyond, oh no. It's weird man. Weird.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:28 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
You can go ahead and mock Delaware. We don't care anymore.


Are there people in Delaware? :shock:

I thought it was just corporations...


Don't you follow Supreme Court rulings? Corporations are people now!
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:29 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, you described it perfectly. And the weather is a constant 72 Fahrenheit, like we're climate controlled. It's frankly creepy. I much prefer Los Angeles.

Southern California freaks me out in general weatherwise, I don't know how we're connected to the same ocean but your part doesn't make it cold. It ain't right, I tellz ya...it ain't right. Like seriously, your lowest average day time temperature for the year is the average temperature for summer in San Francisco. Same fucking ocean. We're only like 300 or 400 miles away (I don't feel like looking it up)...and like I can get as far as San Simeon and it's still nice a chilly at the coast. But not the LA basin and beyond, oh no. It's weird man. Weird.


OC/LA's weather is bizarre to say the least...I mean it could be cloudy one day and the next it is 90 degrees...or rain one day and then the next it is 100...
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Postby Norstal » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:30 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
LA resident here, just coming in to say that I completely and vehemently disagree with you.




And happily, I am not going to dignify any insult to the great city of Los Angeles with a response.



Even Compton.



I LOVE Compton. Best barbecue I've ever had, and incredibly nice people.

I lived in San Diego for the first thirty years of my life, and I've lived in Los Angeles half that time. Speaking from experience, I like it much better here. A greater variety and quality of food (though the Mexican stuff is better in SD), more interesting cultural scene, more diversity in communities, more films, more everything. San Diego features better Mexican food, Comic Con, and nice weather that isn't really THAT different from the weather here.

Comic Con? Pfft. We have Anime Expo here.

Anyways, getting off topic here.
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:31 am

Norstal wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:

I LOVE Compton. Best barbecue I've ever had, and incredibly nice people.

I lived in San Diego for the first thirty years of my life, and I've lived in Los Angeles half that time. Speaking from experience, I like it much better here. A greater variety and quality of food (though the Mexican stuff is better in SD), more interesting cultural scene, more diversity in communities, more films, more everything. San Diego features better Mexican food, Comic Con, and nice weather that isn't really THAT different from the weather here.

Comic Con? Pfft. We have Anime Expo here.

Anyways, getting off topic here.


To be honest you guys just barely got Anime Expo...Anahiem had it for decades...
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:31 am

Norstal wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:

I LOVE Compton. Best barbecue I've ever had, and incredibly nice people.

I lived in San Diego for the first thirty years of my life, and I've lived in Los Angeles half that time. Speaking from experience, I like it much better here. A greater variety and quality of food (though the Mexican stuff is better in SD), more interesting cultural scene, more diversity in communities, more films, more everything. San Diego features better Mexican food, Comic Con, and nice weather that isn't really THAT different from the weather here.

Comic Con? Pfft. We have Anime Expo here.

Anyways, getting off topic here.


Comic Con is bigger and more diverse...kind of like Los Angeles.

And getting off topic? Have you seen the past several pages? But you're right, we should move on.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:31 am

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Are there people in Delaware? :shock:

I thought it was just corporations...

Wait, is Delaware a real place? I thought it was made up, like Narnia or the North Pole.


Pretty sure the North Pole is a real place... :unsure:
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:32 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:Wait, is Delaware a real place? I thought it was made up, like Narnia or the North Pole.


Pretty sure the North Pole is a real place... :unsure:


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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:34 am

Master Shake wrote:
Norstal wrote:Comic Con? Pfft. We have Anime Expo here.

Anyways, getting off topic here.


To be honest you guys just barely got Anime Expo...Anahiem had it for decades...


To be honest, I don't really care for this whole Anime Expo/Comic con thing, been to Anime Expo once, found it less interesting than the Tanabata thing they hold in Little Tokyo.

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Postby Phisych University » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:35 am

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... I forgot that being Canadian counts as being foreign to America. :p

I live really close to the states, and have visited often, so I tend to forget that we're seperate from time to time.

But yeah, I'm foreign to America as well.

CSA military flag looks pro-slavery to me.

The CSA itself? Racist shithole.


So, based on the actions of people living in the South a 150 years ago, you feel that anyone who flies the flag is racist?

Better go to Germany with that attitude...you'll fit right in considering they still have to listen to people blame them for WW2....


Ah, so the Germans would agree with me as well!

This argument of 'foreigners don't think the flag is racist' is falling apart more and more.
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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:35 am

So. The Civil War. How bout that.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:35 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Pretty sure the North Pole is a real place... :unsure:


So Santa IS real! I knew it!


Yep. Santa Anna was real. But as people say, nothing in this life is certain except death and Texas.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:36 am

The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:So. The Civil War. How bout that.


I'm going to bet on the Confederates, all they need to do is hold out and they'll win.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:36 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Norstal wrote:Comic Con? Pfft. We have Anime Expo here.

Anyways, getting off topic here.


Comic Con is bigger and more diverse...kind of like Los Angeles.

And getting off topic? Have you seen the past several pages? But you're right, we should move on.

The thread isn't about the civil war between the North and South of California?
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:36 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
To be honest you guys just barely got Anime Expo...Anahiem had it for decades...


To be honest, I don't really care for this whole Anime Expo/Comic con thing, been to Anime Expo once, found it less interesting than the Tanabata thing they hold in Little Tokyo.


Not everyone likes anime and it is about the costumes more then the subject matter of said con...

kind of like how when you get older you realize the magic of Halloween is dressing up and not so much the candy...

you can buy candy any day, just like anime can be watched any time, but getting an excuse to dress up like your favorite character/person is always rare...
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:37 am

Phisych University wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
So, based on the actions of people living in the South a 150 years ago, you feel that anyone who flies the flag is racist?

Better go to Germany with that attitude...you'll fit right in considering they still have to listen to people blame them for WW2....


Ah, so the Germans would agree with me as well!

This argument of 'foreigners don't think the flag is racist' is falling apart more and more.


Wave a Swastika around, and try getting the people to think you are simply expressing "Pride in German History and Heritage".

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Postby Norstal » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:37 am

Master Shake wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Let's get back from this discussion on musical taste, no matter how lovely it may be, and get to the question, why are some people trying to pretend that the Confederate flag is anything but a racist rag which is usually flow up to bait "PC liberals" and people who are offended by a symbol of slavery and oppression of an entire race?


As I made mention before...The KKK ruined the image of the flag and got it a racist reputation...

Ask any foreigner about the flag and they will say it is a symbol of rebellion...it is due to that person not knowing about the KKK...

I'm an immigrant and pretty much every foreigner I've met associates the flag with the CSA and the CSA as supporters of slavery. It's both a symbol for rebellion and racism.
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Postby Master Shake » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:38 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Phisych University wrote:
Ah, so the Germans would agree with me as well!

This argument of 'foreigners don't think the flag is racist' is falling apart more and more.


Wave a Swastika around, and try getting the people to think you are simply expressing "Pride in German History and Heritage".


The South didn't practice Genocide like the Nazi's did...
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:39 am

Master Shake wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
To be honest, I don't really care for this whole Anime Expo/Comic con thing, been to Anime Expo once, found it less interesting than the Tanabata thing they hold in Little Tokyo.


Not everyone likes anime and it is about the costumes more then the subject matter of said con...

kind of like how when you get older you realize the magic of Halloween is dressing up and not so much the candy...

you can buy candy any day, just like anime can be watched any time, but getting an excuse to dress up like your favorite character/person is always rare...


Never celebrated Halloween, never understood why one needed special occassion to dress however you like.

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