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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:12 am

Elemental North wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Oh, ffs, there is no damn "system". And you haven't rose above anything, except my tolerance level.


Really so what would you call that thingy we're in, oh what's the word, the education SYSTEM, which is part of the labor SYSTEM, which creates society?

So if you've "rose above these systems", that would mean you control education and do no labor?

Seems legit.
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Postby Alexanda » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:13 am

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United States of Natan wrote:I don't believe we have that.

It is often made up of parents, and they have the authority to make school decisions.

It can give the student influence over the school.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:13 am

Elemental North wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Well, looks like I'm going to be trampled.

What laundry detergent best gets out shoe-prints?


Dear, you're funny, charismatic, and you have a bright mind. Use it. Shout it. Rise to the top, where you deserve to be, and the say "fuck it all" and change it for yourself.

You come off as a Dark Lord of the Sith.

I like your attitude.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:14 am

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Torisakia wrote:1. I threw away the idea of "trying" long ago, 10 years ago in-fact.
2. I don't want to be on top of anyone in my lifetime.
3. I don't care to do what i want.


Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:14 am

United States of Natan wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
As you attempt to force someone to accept your view. *sigh*

2. So you want people to ignore all of functioning society? So they can never go outside, because someone will tell them what to do? Fuck that.
3. Isn't joining the group of non-conformists, conforming to something? Isn't saying you don't want to be accepted nonetheless being accepted into a similar group, doesn't conforming in anyway automatically get you kicked out of the non-conformist group and thus bullied for not accepting someones views that are now being forced on you?

Speak for yourself. what do you think your trying to do to me?

2. No, what don't you understand, I am not telling them to reject and ignore all of functioning society, just not to conform because someone tells you to, and to be yourself. it is fine if they go outside. they just shouldn't be forced to conform to do it.
3. no, there is no non-conformist group, it is a bunch of people being themselves.

That is what we are all attempting to do, I'm not simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your argument we're ALL guilty of it.

2.So if being a murderer is "myself" I shouldn't listen to the laws that say "do not kill people" but wouldn't I then be conforming?
3. You literally just defined a group; "There's no group, it's just a bunch of people." So you know...A GROUP.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:14 am

Elemental North wrote:
Torisakia wrote:1. I threw away the idea of "trying" long ago, 10 years ago in-fact.
2. I don't want to be on top of anyone in my lifetime.
3. I don't care to do what i want.


Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.

Bridges are so overrated, I prefer jumping off something more flimsy, like a diving board into a pool of Jell-O.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:15 am

The Treorai wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Dear, you're funny, charismatic, and you have a bright mind. Use it. Shout it. Rise to the top, where you deserve to be, and the say "fuck it all" and change it for yourself.

You come off as a Dark Lord of the Sith.

I like your attitude.

I agree, but I don't like his attitude. and he seems to be promoting conformity, and forcing people to act like someone else just because someone tells them to.
Then it's a lie. Everything Fox News says is a lie.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:15 am

Elemental North wrote:
Torisakia wrote:1. I threw away the idea of "trying" long ago, 10 years ago in-fact.
2. I don't want to be on top of anyone in my lifetime.
3. I don't care to do what i want.


Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.

...This escalated far faster than necessary...
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:15 am

Need a name wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.


Apparently not to the people that are so filled with apathy that eating doesn't even seem to have a purpose.
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Postby Allentyr » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:16 am

Elemental North wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:public speaking is not high school. and nobody cares in high school. the only ones that do have more problems than you, and take it out on you. do not conform because an insecure person says so. just be yourself. if you have to, remain in the shadows, or the crowd.


You don't get it do you?

SHY PEOPLE GET NOWHERE IN LIFE. I know, I used to be one, until I came to the realization that unless I started being loud, and vocal about what I wanted, and what I felt, and who should lead, and what should be done, that I would simply be trampled over while the kids I wish I was did what I wish I could do.


Shy people get nowhere in life. Huh. Guess I'm never gonna get anywhere.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:16 am

Elemental North wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Manipulators, by default, pretend to be people's friends.
Also, you sound like you may have a mild case of sociopathy. Not trying to insult you or anything, but maybe you should look up the symptoms. ;)


Lol, in every good politician there is a tiny sociopath at the controls.

But does anyone like politicians?
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:16 am

Need a name wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.

I agree. I think suicide is overrated. after all, high school is only 4 years out of 60 better ones.
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:16 am

Torisakia wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.

Bridges are so overrated, I prefer jumping off something more flimsy, like a diving board into a pool of Jell-O.


:rofl: :clap: Very good, that made me smile. Quite witty.
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Postby Valentir » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:17 am

I believe that sometimes we must act a little to get by, but being a manipulator and cold to everyone isn't a way to go about life, unless you have ambitions in politics.

Elemental North wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.


Apparently not to the people that are so filled with apathy that eating doesn't even seem to have a purpose.

Nice, telling someone to commit suicide. You must be a good friend.

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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:17 am

Elemental North wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Speak for yourself. what do you think your trying to do to me?

2. No, what don't you understand, I am not telling them to reject and ignore all of functioning society, just not to conform because someone tells you to, and to be yourself. it is fine if they go outside. they just shouldn't be forced to conform to do it.
3. no, there is no non-conformist group, it is a bunch of people being themselves.

That is what we are all attempting to do, I'm not simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your argument we're ALL guilty of it.

2.So if being a murderer is "myself" I shouldn't listen to the laws that say "do not kill people" but wouldn't I then be conforming?
3. You literally just defined a group; "There's no group, it's just a bunch of people." So you know...A GROUP.

2. I'm referring to social norms, not law. if something is against the law, you don't do it.
3. whatever.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:17 am

The Treorai wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Then honestly, go jump off a bridge, if you think life is so pointless, there's no need for you to be in it.

...This escalated far faster than necessary...

Eh, I've been told worse.

Elemental North wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.


Apparently not to the people that are so filled with apathy that eating doesn't even seem to have a purpose.

Eating does have a purpose. Without it, using the word 'eated' just isn't grammatically correct.
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:18 am

Allentyr wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
You don't get it do you?

SHY PEOPLE GET NOWHERE IN LIFE. I know, I used to be one, until I came to the realization that unless I started being loud, and vocal about what I wanted, and what I felt, and who should lead, and what should be done, that I would simply be trampled over while the kids I wish I was did what I wish I could do.


Shy people get nowhere in life. Huh. Guess I'm never gonna get anywhere.
*cough*Straight A student, girlfriend, studying to make digital art*cough*


Then you're not shy like these people, you converse with society.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:19 am

Elemental North wrote:
Allentyr wrote:
Shy people get nowhere in life. Huh. Guess I'm never gonna get anywhere.
*cough*Straight A student, girlfriend, studying to make digital art*cough*


Then you're not shy like these people, you converse with society.

I did not say don't converse with society! just don't let it make you conform! and I have a fine life, and I am shy.
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:19 am

United States of Natan wrote:
Elemental North wrote:That is what we are all attempting to do, I'm not simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your argument we're ALL guilty of it.

2.So if being a murderer is "myself" I shouldn't listen to the laws that say "do not kill people" but wouldn't I then be conforming?
3. You literally just defined a group; "There's no group, it's just a bunch of people." So you know...A GROUP.

2. I'm referring to social norms, not law. if something is against the law, you don't do it.
3. whatever.


So it's good to conform to laws which are basically accepted social norms?
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Postby Allentyr » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:20 am

Elemental North wrote:
Allentyr wrote:
Shy people get nowhere in life. Huh. Guess I'm never gonna get anywhere.
*cough*Straight A student, girlfriend, studying to make digital art*cough*


Then you're not shy like these people, you converse with society.


I don't, really. I hate everyone here. Even my girlfriend is a classmate from Canada.
I don't go to public events, and I try to escape from having to come with my parents anywhere anytime I can.
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Postby Alexanda » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:20 am

TF2 Scout wrote:I'm entering highschool soon, and I was wondering what advice NS had for me. I'd appreciate the help.

Will you be boarding or just going daily?
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:20 am

Torisakia wrote:
The Treorai wrote:...This escalated far faster than necessary...

Eh, I've been told worse.

Elemental North wrote:
Apparently not to the people that are so filled with apathy that eating doesn't even seem to have a purpose.

Eating does have a purpose. Without it, using the word 'eated' just isn't grammatically correct.


I like you more and more, please forgive my previous outburst. It's just apathetic people get on my nerves sometimes.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:20 am

Elemental North wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a reason to live.


Apparently not to the people that are so filled with apathy that eating doesn't even seem to have a purpose.


Eating? Wow, I think they have therapy (or whatever) for stuff like that.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:21 am

Elemental North wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:2. I'm referring to social norms, not law. if something is against the law, you don't do it.
3. whatever.


So it's good to conform to laws which are basically accepted social norms?

law is different from something people think your personality should be like.
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Postby Elemental North » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:21 am

Allentyr wrote:
Elemental North wrote:
Then you're not shy like these people, you converse with society.


I don't, really. I hate everyone here. Even my girlfriend is a classmate from Canada.
I don't go to public events, and I try to escape from having to come with my parents anywhere anytime I can.


Well, that's not abnormal. And hate is a strong word, don't hate. Strongly dislike.

I think we can all identify with that. Going places with parents is just icky. lol
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