Is America The Best Country In The World?

[Great Kleomentia]

Far from it. Its a decent place to live in, but it certainly can not be classified as the best country in the world. One would also have to be open as to what the term "best country in the world" would mean. Everyone has their own picture of the best country in the world, so this is fairly a subjective topic.

[Sxvoryia]

ITS CANIDAE YOU IDIOT

CANIDAE CANIDAE CANIDAE

it won't kill you but it will make your life suck, and it never goes away (most of the time)

its not contagious we get it from food

I don't think that you can become a dog from eating food.

Not that Canidae...I must have spellt it wrong

[United Marxist Nations]

I don't think that you can become a dog from eating food.

Not that Canidae...I must have spellt it wrong

Then spell it right. I also doubt the veracity of your information.

[Reploid Productions]

ITS CANIDAE YOU IDIOT

CANIDAE CANIDAE CANIDAE

it won't kill you but it will make your life suck, and it never goes away (most of the time)

its not contagious we get it from food

1) Knock off the flaming.
2) "Canidae," who the Germans did or did not kill, and your other off-topic remarks have nothing to do with the thread topic about America's perceived greatness (or lack thereof.)
3) Your behavior overall does little to convince me you're here to be a contributing member of the site community, especially nonsense posts like this one:

pro-bisexual what?

So let's call it a *** Warning for flaming/threadjacking ***, served with a hearty suggestion that you read the site rules before continuing.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Costa Fierro]

I'm gonna post something similar to someone's post and compare the United States, the world's preeminent military and economic power, with New Zealand, a land full of sheep and mythical midget people with hairy feet.

Ease of Doing Business:
NZ: 3rd
US: 4th

Press Freedom:
NZ: 8th
US: 32nd

Economic Freedom:
NZ: 5th
US: 12th

Best Place to be a Mother:
NZ: 16th
US: 31st

Corruption Perception Index:
NZ: 1st
US: 19th

Infant Mortality Rate:
NZ: 29th
US: 34th

Life Expectancy Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 53rd

GDP Per Capita Index:
NZ: 28th
US: 10th

Women in Office Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 84th

So, yeah.

[Blakk Metal]

I'm gonna post something similar to someone's post and compare the United States, the world's preeminent military and economic power, with New Zealand, a land full of sheep and mythical midget people with hairy feet.

Ease of Doing Business:
NZ: 3rd
US: 4th

Press Freedom:
NZ: 8th
US: 32nd

Economic Freedom:
NZ: 5th
US: 12th

Best Place to be a Mother:
NZ: 16th
US: 31st

Corruption Perception Index:
NZ: 1st
US: 19th

Infant Mortality Rate:
NZ: 29th
US: 34th

Life Expectancy Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 53rd

GDP Per Capita Index:
NZ: 28th
US: 10th

Women in Office Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 84th

So, yeah.

New Zealand is a tiny, homogeneous, WASPy country in the corner of the world nobody gives a shit about. Of course it's going to be better than the US in many categories.

[Estrain (Ancient)]

I'm gonna post something similar to someone's post and compare the United States, the world's preeminent military and economic power, with New Zealand, a land full of sheep and mythical midget people with hairy feet.

Ease of Doing Business:
NZ: 3rd
US: 4th

Press Freedom:
NZ: 8th
US: 32nd

Economic Freedom:
NZ: 5th
US: 12th

Best Place to be a Mother:
NZ: 16th
US: 31st

Corruption Perception Index:
NZ: 1st
US: 19th

Infant Mortality Rate:
NZ: 29th
US: 34th

Life Expectancy Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 53rd

GDP Per Capita Index:
NZ: 28th
US: 10th

Women in Office Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 84th

So, yeah.

New Zealand is a tiny, homogeneous, WASPy country in the corner of the world nobody gives a shit about. Of course it's going to be better than the US in many categories.

Because "nobody gives a shit about it" isn't really a reason they are better than the US. You can't blame the fact that everyone "gives a shit" about the US (spoiler: they don't actually) for the reason that we are worse off in all of these areas as New Zealand or all the other countries above of in these categories.

[The Orson Empire]

I'm gonna post something similar to someone's post and compare the United States, the world's preeminent military and economic power, with New Zealand, a land full of sheep and mythical midget people with hairy feet.

Ease of Doing Business:
NZ: 3rd
US: 4th

Press Freedom:
NZ: 8th
US: 32nd

Economic Freedom:
NZ: 5th
US: 12th

Best Place to be a Mother:
NZ: 16th
US: 31st

Corruption Perception Index:
NZ: 1st
US: 19th

Infant Mortality Rate:
NZ: 29th
US: 34th

Life Expectancy Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 53rd

GDP Per Capita Index:
NZ: 28th
US: 10th

Women in Office Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 84th

So, yeah.

New Zealand is a tiny, homogeneous, WASPy country in the corner of the world nobody gives a shit about. Of course it's going to be better than the US in many categories.

How insulting.

[Blakk Metal]

New Zealand is a tiny, homogeneous, WASPy country in the corner of the world nobody gives a shit about. Of course it's going to be better than the US in many categories.

Because "nobody gives a shit about it" isn't really a reason they are better than the US. You can't blame the fact that everyone "gives a shit" about the US (spoiler: they don't actually) for the reason that we are worse off in all of these areas as New Zealand or all the other countries above of in these categories.

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

[Estrain (Ancient)]

Because "nobody gives a shit about it" isn't really a reason they are better than the US. You can't blame the fact that everyone "gives a shit" about the US (spoiler: they don't actually) for the reason that we are worse off in all of these areas as New Zealand or all the other countries above of in these categories.

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

I don't deny those aspects of New Zealand except for maybe WASPy as I don't really know about that for New Zealand personally, but adding the whole shit giving part was unnecessary. And rude, tbh.
I still think we shouldn't make any excuses for the US, instead we should acknowledge that those standings are unacceptable and seek to change them instead of blaming our size, our heterogeneous population, or our un-WASPy-ness.

[Thyrgga]

We should have stayed with Britannia.

[Othelos]

Because "nobody gives a shit about it" isn't really a reason they are better than the US. You can't blame the fact that everyone "gives a shit" about the US (spoiler: they don't actually) for the reason that we are worse off in all of these areas as New Zealand or all the other countries above of in these categories.

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

NZ is 74% white, which is less than in america lol

[Provaskola]

To me there is no such thing as the best country in the world. Every country has it's pros and cons and the United States is definately one of them. Although I do love my country and am proud to be American, I don't consider it the best. If America was the best, then it would have no problems at all.

[Vetalia]

We should have stayed with Britannia.

If we did, Britain would've become our colony. "The World Turned Upside Down" indeed .

[Blakk Metal]

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

NZ is 74% white, which is less than in america lol

That's bullshit.

We should have stayed with Britannia.

If we did, Britain would've become our colony. "The World Turned Upside Down" indeed .

Like the Portuguese Empire and Brazil?

[Othelos]

NZ is 74% white, which is less than in america lol

That's bullshit.

Not really. My source is from the census bureau, which beats wikipedia.

Anyway, yours is only 2% lower than NZ which still isn't a big difference.

[Atlanticatia]

I'm gonna post something similar to someone's post and compare the United States, the world's preeminent military and economic power, with New Zealand, a land full of sheep and mythical midget people with hairy feet.

Ease of Doing Business:
NZ: 3rd
US: 4th

Press Freedom:
NZ: 8th
US: 32nd

Economic Freedom:
NZ: 5th
US: 12th

Best Place to be a Mother:
NZ: 16th
US: 31st

Corruption Perception Index:
NZ: 1st
US: 19th

Infant Mortality Rate:
NZ: 29th
US: 34th

Life Expectancy Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 53rd

GDP Per Capita Index:
NZ: 28th
US: 10th

Women in Office Index:
NZ: 25th
US: 84th

So, yeah.

New Zealand is a tiny, homogeneous, WASPy country in the corner of the world nobody gives a shit about. Of course it's going to be better than the US in many categories.

I love New Zealand. I'm a citizen of both the US and NZ and I often go to visit family there. It's such an amazing country. I might be heading there in a few weeks.

And I don't know if I'd really call NZ homogenous, only 67% of the population identify as white/European. There is a huge amount of diversity - and significant biculturalism that has been present for a long time (European + Maori) as well as more recent multiculturalism (Asian + Pacific people).
About 20% of the population was born overseas. It's a very diverse country.
I'm not sure if I'd call that "WASPy" or homogenous.

And why do people qualify the fact that the US failing at literally everything with its diversity? I don't understand that. You need a reality check. The US is failing because of our policies. It has nothing to do with peoples' ethnicities.

NZ got #1 on the Social Progress Index for a reason.

[Vetalia]

Like the Portuguese Empire and Brazil?

Except worse for them because of all the fertile, non-malarial land.

[Costa Fierro]

Because "nobody gives a shit about it" isn't really a reason they are better than the US. You can't blame the fact that everyone "gives a shit" about the US (spoiler: they don't actually) for the reason that we are worse off in all of these areas as New Zealand or all the other countries above of in these categories.

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

Tiny, yes. Homogeneous? No. New Zealand has a multicultural society but unlike the US, negative stereotypes are not entrenched in society and what the actual fuck does WASP mean?

[Atlanticatia]

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

Tiny, yes. Homogeneous? No. New Zealand has a multicultural society but unlike the US, negative stereotypes are not entrenched in society and what the actual fuck does WASP mean?

^This.

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant, it generally a term for a wealthy person who has a high status and is (generally) of Protestant descent from Northwestern Europe.

[Costa Fierro]

Tiny, yes. Homogeneous? No. New Zealand has a multicultural society but unlike the US, negative stereotypes are not entrenched in society and what the actual fuck does WASP mean?

^This.

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant, it generally a term for a wealthy person who has a high status and is (generally) of Protestant descent from Northwestern Europe.

Well, let's break this down. As a Kiwi, I am in the best position to answer these questions.

Is New Zealand "white"? Yes it is. In the 2013 census, 74.0% of people identified as "European" descent. 14.9% are Maori, 7.4% Pacific, 11.8% Asian, 1.2% Middle Eastern/Latin American/African and 1.7% are other or did not state their ethnicity. However, 25.2% of people who were living in New Zealand at the time of the census were born overseas. And just for fun, the five most commonly spoken languages in New Zealand as defined in the 2013 Census are English, Maori, Samoan, Hindi and French. As well as this, the top ten countries of origin for immigrants in New Zealand are England, China, India, Australia, South Africa, Fiji, Samoa, Philippines, South Korea and Scotland.

Is New Zealand Anglo-Saxon? Well that depends. Certainly, the largest numbers of immigrants that came, and still come from Europe, are from Great Britain although New Zealanders in general largely have a good mix of British and some other European descent. I for example have mixed English and Dutch descent. A lot of people in NZ are white, although the most you could easily consider to be "Anglo-Saxon" are the British immigrants themselves.

Is New Zealand Protestant? Not really. In 2013, 38.5% of people declared to have no religion whatsoever. 12.2% did not declare their religion and out of the Christian denominations, the largest in New Zealand is Catholicism with 11%, followed by Anglican with 10.3% and Presbyterianism at 7.4%.

So make what you want out of that, NSGers.

[Estrain (Ancient)]

Y'all are selling New Zealand so hard, I want to move there now (except I can't because I need an ozone layer to protect my skin, my white, white skin).

[Grand Britannia]

We should have stayed with Britannia.

Hail.

[Geilinor]

Now criticize 'tiny, homogeneous, WASPy'.

NZ is 74% white, which is less than in america lol

66% white, not 74%. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand#Ethnicity Calling New Zealand a homogenous, WASPy country is stupid and insulting.

[Geilinor]

^This.

WASP = White Anglo Saxon Protestant, it generally a term for a wealthy person who has a high status and is (generally) of Protestant descent from Northwestern Europe.

Is New Zealand Protestant? Not really. In 2013, 38.5% of people declared to have no religion whatsoever. 12.2% did not declare their religion and out of the Christian denominations, the largest in New Zealand is Catholicism with 11%, followed by Anglican with 10.3% and Presbyterianism at 7.4%.

So make what you want out of that, NSGers.

You're selling New Zealand very well.